PA Gubernatorial Race 2006

[TeePee4Prez]

1.) Apparently Ed Rendell was elected MAYOR in between 1991 and 1999.  That little thing happened before he was governor just so you know.

2.)  Apparently, Melissa Brown's baseless rants against Section 8 were good enough for some bonheads in NE Philly to vote for her.

1) We're talking about the 1986 race he ran in, Flyers. Pay attention.

2) Basless? Hardly! And she actually had her facts straight (something you guys should try).

1.  Touche!  Executive or legislative experience does help.

2.  I'll have a migraine if we discss this now.

[Keystone Phil]

1.) Apparently Ed Rendell was elected MAYOR in between 1991 and 1999.  That little thing happened before he was governor just so you know.

2.)  Apparently, Melissa Brown's baseless rants against Section 8 were good enough for some bonheads in NE Philly to vote for her.

1) We're talking about the 1986 race he ran in, Flyers. Pay attention.

2) Basless? Hardly! And she actually had her facts straight (something you guys should try).

2.  I'll have a migraine if we discss this now.

We discussed it enough in the PA 13 thread months ago.

[Keystone Phil]

GrassrootsPA is reporting how Castor would consider running as Lt. Gov. if Swann is the nominee but seems like he will not campaign for it. I guess that's the end of a possible Gov. run, too. Or is it? Is he trying to get the party leaders to beg him? It wouldn't surprise me. He keeps saying how we need a candidate to help in the SE, wants whatever allows the GOP the best chance at defeating Eddie and makes it clear that he's the guy yet says stuff like "I'm not actively seeking the office." Yeah...he wants the leadership attention pretty bad.

Also note how he says he will not actively "seek that nomination." "That nomination" is for Lt. Gov. He hasn't decided about Gov. yet...

[Keystone Phil]

http://www.politicspa.com/

Castor: "I Still Might Run for Governor"

Read the brief interview below

 

What is your current thinking regarding your likelihood of entering the Gubernatorial campaign?
I still think it is a possibility. It appears that Gov. Rendell is becoming increasingly vulnerable if we nominate a strong team against him. Our current contenders all seem to have what it takes to be effective governors. Without question however, we cannot let Gov. Rendell come out of the greater Southeast region with the kind of plurality he had last time. If enough of my political supporters and financial backers are convinced that a Castor candidacy gives our party an edge on Rendell's home turf, I still might decide to jump in.

What is your timeline for deciding whether you will run?
The timeline is certainly fluid. I'm just watching and listening to see what develops over the Summer. One thing I learned (of many!) is that things in politics are not always what they seem.

What steps have you taken to make a run possible?
I've taken no traditional steps to run. The work we do in the DA's Office keeps me pretty busy and has the incidental effect of keeping my name before the public in the Philly media market. I maintain my contacts around the state with my colleagues in the Pennsylvania District Attorney's Association as well as with members of the General Assembly with whom I've worked on law enforcement issues. Most of the members of my campaign team from last year remain either closely or loosely associated with me, and perhaps most importantly, I remain in close contact with my major financial backers from before. Of course, my campaign committee is still operating.

Who is encouraging your run?
"I'm trying to maintain the confidences of those who have approached me. Though it was never my desire, I recognize that some controversy seems to attach itself to my political career. Anyone associated with encouraging me to run for Governor, might find themselves caught up in that controversy which would be unfortunate should I ultimately not seek a place on the ticket next year. Speaking generally, those who are encouraging me to run are people who think that I perhaps could cut into a Rendell plurality coming out of the southeast enough to make up the difference in the rest of the state, while at the same time helping Sen. Santorum and our State Reps. in the Philadelphia region at a time when things will be tough on the GOP there with the Governor at the top of the ticket."

[Keystone Phil]

Lynn Swanns kickoff event, which was held this evening, is reported to have brought in close to $700,000.

[Speed of Sound]

The first thing I was going to do was post that article, NHPolitico.

Dan, Rendell would not "own" him and how could you compare him to Paterno? Holden was a popular incumbent. I know you refuse to believe this but Rendell is not that popular.

Holden's district is 65% Republican

being part of the other 35% in his district is hard work. Luckily name recognition keeps Holden in office.

[Ronald Reagan]

I'm gonna throw in my two cents.  I really don't want Rendell back in office because he messed up our state.  We could possibly have like a big casino in our school district and our school district is big farm country.  It is sad.  I want to see Lynn Swann or someone else get in.

[Keystone Phil]

I want to see Lynn Swann or someone else get in.

Swann is in and if Bruce Castor, the Montgomery County DA, doesn't run, I will be behind Swann 100%. A Castor-Swann ticket is our best bet at winning in 2006 followed by Swann-Castor or Swann-Pippy.

[danwxman]

I'm gonna throw in my two cents.  I really don't want Rendell back in office because he messed up our state.  We could possibly have like a big casino in our school district and our school district is big farm country.  It is sad.  I want to see Lynn Swann or someone else get in.

Where do you live?

[Keystone Phil]

I'm gonna throw in my two cents.  I really don't want Rendell back in office because he messed up our state.  We could possibly have like a big casino in our school district and our school district is big farm country.  It is sad.  I want to see Lynn Swann or someone else get in.

Where do you live?

His profile says central PA but that doesn't help all that much.

[danwxman]

I'm gonna throw in my two cents.  I really don't want Rendell back in office because he messed up our state.  We could possibly have like a big casino in our school district and our school district is big farm country.  It is sad.  I want to see Lynn Swann or someone else get in.

Where do you live?

His profile says central PA but that doesn't help all that much.

I'm trying to figure out if he lives in West Hanover Township, where Penn National racecourse is located. That area is mostly rural and I can understand the people being wary of slot machines being put in. But, when you live right off a major highway and next to a racetrack you have to expect some kind of growth.

[danwxman]

Another great Swann quote. When asked the number one reason why Rendell shouldn't be re-elected...Swann said because "under Rendell Pennsylvania has lost jobs"

This as news broke that Pennsylvania gained jobs and the unemployment rate dropped again. Under Rendell, Pennsylvania has actually gained jobs.

BTW, when Swann was campaigning for President Bush he touted that Bush had created jobs in Pennsylvania.

This guy is just a goof. Please nominate him!

[TeePee4Prez]

Another great Swann quote. When asked the number one reason why Rendell shouldn't be re-elected...Swann said because "under Rendell Pennsylvania has lost jobs"

This as news broke that Pennsylvania gained jobs and the unemployment rate dropped again. Under Rendell, Pennsylvania has actually gained jobs.

BTW, when Swann was campaigning for President Bush he touted that Bush had created jobs in Pennsylvania.

This guy is just a goof. Please nominate him!

Ditto!

[Keystone Phil]

This guy is just a goof. Please nominate him!

Ditto!

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He's the one making it the closest. We might just take your suggestion!

[Keystone Phil]

It's up.

http://www.rendellforgovernor.com/

[Keystone Phil]

It's never to early to think of 2010. Check out PoliticsPA's rather interesting look at potential candidates.

http://politicspa.com/FEATURES/05longlist2010.htm

[PBrunsel]

It's never to early to think of 2010. Check out PoliticsPA's rather interesting look at potential candidates.

http://politicspa.com/FEATURES/05longlist2010.htm

Interesting list, and I have heard of a majority of those listed. But one I could not find. Who is this Jim Panyard
charecter?

[Keystone Phil]

It's never to early to think of 2010. Check out PoliticsPA's rather interesting look at potential candidates.

http://politicspa.com/FEATURES/05longlist2010.htm

Interesting list, and I have heard of a majority of those listed. But one I could not find. Who is this Jim Panyard
charecter?

The list is nutty. John Street for Governor? There was a rumor of him running for Senate awhile back but that was the biggest political joke for awhile. Now after his scandals, his chances of running are way, way down (not like they were that high anyway) and chances of winning go from 1% to 0.5%.

Charlie Dent, Congressman from the Lehigh Valley, should be up there. He's one of the main potential candidates but they have Schwartz up there when we all know she wants Senate in 2010. It's crazy.

Anyway, Panyard is the CEO of the Pennsylvania Manufacturers Association who is apparently running this year (except no one considers him a candidate, not even a minor candidate).

[nini2287]

It's never to early to think of 2010. Check out PoliticsPA's rather interesting look at potential candidates.

http://politicspa.com/FEATURES/05longlist2010.htm

Interesting list, and I have heard of a majority of those listed. But one I could not find. Who is this Jim Panyard
charecter?

The list is nutty. John Street for Governor? There was a rumor of him running for Senate awhile back but that was the biggest political joke for awhile. Now after his scandals, his chances of running are way, way down (not like they were that high anyway) and chances of winning go from 1% to 0.5%.

Charlie Dent, Congressman from the Lehigh Valley, should be up there. He's one of the main potential candidates but they have Schwartz up there when we all know she wants Senate in 2010. It's crazy.

Anyway, Panyard is the CEO of the Pennsylvania Manufacturers Association who is apparently running this year (except no one considers him a candidate, not even a minor candidate).

Street certianly has the ego to run, but I highly doubt (and highly hope) he doesn't win.

[Keystone Phil]

Street certianly has the ego to run, but I highly doubt (and highly hope) he doesn't win.

The only way Street is going to win another office is if he makes a deal with Fattah, endorses him in 2007 and takes his House seat. There is no way he's that crazy to pursue statewide office especially after the corruption hearings. If he did run, he would have to rely just on Philly in the primary. That's it. Just the city of Philadelphia. More specifically, west Philly, North Philly and parts of Center City. He'd be wasting his time going anywhere outside of Philadelphia (even if he went to downtown Pittsburgh).

[nini2287]

Street certianly has the ego to run, but I highly doubt (and highly hope) he doesn't win.

The only way Street is going to win another office is if he makes a deal with Fattah, endorses him in 2007 and takes his House seat. There is no way he's that crazy to pursue statewide office especially after the corruption hearings. If he did run, he would have to rely just on Philly in the primary. That's it. Just the city of Philadelphia. More specifically, west Philly, North Philly and parts of Center City. He'd be wasting his time going anywhere outside of Philadelphia (even if he went to downtown Pittsburgh).

I never said Street would win, just that he would possibly run.

[Keystone Phil]

Street certianly has the ego to run, but I highly doubt (and highly hope) he doesn't win.

The only way Street is going to win another office is if he makes a deal with Fattah, endorses him in 2007 and takes his House seat. There is no way he's that crazy to pursue statewide office especially after the corruption hearings. If he did run, he would have to rely just on Philly in the primary. That's it. Just the city of Philadelphia. More specifically, west Philly, North Philly and parts of Center City. He'd be wasting his time going anywhere outside of Philadelphia (even if he went to downtown Pittsburgh).

I never said Street would win, just that he would possibly run.

You said you highly hope that he doesn't win.

[Keystone Phil]

Potential?  Yes, but just that.  I'd say it's more likely that Rendell to win by 10-12 points, and that's not biased, since I'm not that much of a Rendell fan.

Rendell wins by 10-12 points against Swann? How about Castor? I can totally understand that view in a Rendell-Piccola race or even Rendell-Scranton race but I think Rendell vs. either Swann or Castor would have a difference in the single digits.

[nini2287]

You said you highly hope that he doesn't win.

I said both but it was separated by the parentheses.  Regardless, I think we're in agreement here that Street would be terrible candidate and a terrible governor.

Potential? Yes, but just that. I'd say it's more likely that Rendell to win by 10-12 points, and that's not biased, since I'm not that much of a Rendell fan.

Rendell wins by 10-12 points against Swann? How about Castor? I can totally understand that view in a Rendell-Piccola race or even Rendell-Scranton race but I think Rendell vs. either Swann or Castor would have a difference in the single digits.

Rendell vs. Castor, I'd give around a ten-point win to Rendell, Castor is from the wrong part of the state and won't signifcantly cut down on Rendell's margins (we've discussed that before).

Rendell vs. Swann, really depends on Swann's candidacy, I haven't seen enough of him to determine what kind of candidate he is.  If he turns out to be articulate and fairly moderate, he would have a shot at beating Rendell, although I would think a very slight (3 points or so) Rendell win would be more probable.  If Swann turns out to really not understand the issues and try to campaign on name recognition only, I wouldn't be surprised to see Rendell win by over 20 points.

[Keystone Phil]

Rendell vs. Castor, I'd give around a ten-point win to Rendell, Castor is from the wrong part of the state and won't signifcantly cut down on Rendell's margins (we've discussed that before).

Once again, Rendell's key to victory (and very big victory in Montco) was because of the Rendell Republicans. With Castor as the nominee, there is no way Rendell wins Montco by more than ten points. The committeepeople love Castor there. They didn't care for Fisher. If Castor was the nominee, they'd be working very hard to see him victorious.

He'd also cut into Rendell's big margins in Bucks, Chester and Delaware.

Castor would probably be weaker out west but I have a feeling that Rendell is not well liked across the state. Rendell had that amazing appeal in 2002 and was able to carry some western counties (Allegheny, Greene, Beaver, etc) but it was not by much. Pair Castor with Swann or Pippy and I think he can win them over fairly easily.

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I don't see how the moderation helps. Rendell vs. anybody but Castor means Rendell wins the SE easily and that is where moderation (though Castor is not actually a moderate. Weird situation there.) would be helpful.

If Swann tries to run based mainly on name ID and if he is weak on the issues, Rendell wins. A twenty point Rendell win is absurd, though.

In all these cases, a Rendell win is more likely and if Swann or Castor were to win (they're the only two candidates I really can see winning this thing) I doubt it will be by more than three points.