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« on: May 27, 2011, 11:54:29 AM »
« edited: June 02, 2011, 02:28:04 AM by Tender Branson »

FROM CNN:

May 24-26
   2011
 
 Giuliani  16%
 Romney  15%
 Palin  13%
 Paul  12%
 Cain  10%
 Gingrich  8%
 Bachmann  7%
 Pawlenty  5%
 Santorum  2%
 Huntsman  1%
 Johnson  1%
 Roemer  *
 Someone else (vol.)  3%
 None/ No one (vol.)  5%
 No opinion  2%

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/05/27/rel9a.pdf

Could this be the year of the Giuliani?
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2011, 11:56:51 AM »

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2012-is-rudy-giuliani-all-a-twitter-that-hes-running-for-president/politics/2011/05/26/20909

His Twitter said "RudyG2012"
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 11:59:44 AM »

GOP primary polls at this point are essentially polling name recognition and electability.  No surprise there.

I don't see how his shrill fixation on the WOT and national security wins him a primary, particularly considering OBL's out of the picture.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 12:01:39 PM »

The only thing Giuliani will do if he actually runs is take a chunk of social moderates and a good slice of Northeasterners from Romney. Other than that, he's a no-go.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 12:02:54 PM »

Exactly. I think Giuliani could eat away votes from Romney in New Hampshire and give Romney a much smaller victory in NH. If I were the Tea Party, I'd encourage a Giuliani bid because it'd help get a more conservative candidate elected almost by default
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 12:03:08 PM »

Statistical noise.  Though I suppose from Giuliani's POV, he has a shot.  It's not as if he is running against any "big-names" (other than Romney).  The rest of the current field is a total joke.
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2011, 12:05:36 PM »

I think this is probably more about the primary electorate crying out against the current field than it being a sign of actual support for Rudy. I hope he runs so he can give Romney some headaches. Hearing that Rudy is "obsessed" with stopping Romney in New Hampshire was music to my hears.
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2011, 12:31:07 PM »

GOP primary polls at this point are essentially polling name recognition and electability.  No surprise there.

I don't see how his shrill fixation on the WOT and national security wins him a primary, particularly considering OBL's out of the picture.

... and "A noun, a verb, and 9/11" is answered in the Presidential election anyway.
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2011, 12:51:20 PM »

If the  NH Tea Partiers really wanted to knock it to Romney, they would all vote for Giuliani in NH. Because Giuliani will naturally get a slice of Romney's voters anyway.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2011, 01:27:15 PM »
« Edited: May 27, 2011, 01:31:26 PM by UpcomingYouthvoter »

Statistical noise.  Though I suppose from Giuliani's POV, he has a shot.  It's not as if he is running against any "big-names" (other than Romney).  The rest of the current field is a total joke.


Ron Paul is big-name in politics. Huntsman and T-Paw are getting name   resignation  from the mainstream media. Bachmann is not the biggest name out there but still well known enough, even though she's batsh**t crazy. The others are not household names, I agree with that Depression.


If he enter the race, Romney better watch out for him in New Hampshire or else Giuliani will steal votes from people who would be voting for Romney otherwise.
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2011, 01:47:10 PM »

Giuliani winning this poll.  Gingrich 2nd in Gallup without Palin even though his favorables are underwater among Republicans.  The evidence is overwhelming that no one is paying attention to new candidates yet, these polls still tell us almost nothing, and the thing to watch is what candidates or attacks on candidates show signs they could have traction in early states.  Herman Cain is showing by far the strongest potential for growth, but he's also made a series of quick gaffes that suggest he could be the Trump of May.  Anyone remember Trump?
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2011, 01:48:46 PM »

For the purpose of this poll, Giuliani = generic Republican candidate who is unannounced.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2011, 02:06:11 PM »

Giuliani 2012!
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2011, 06:23:05 PM »
« Edited: May 27, 2011, 06:26:37 PM by Mr. Morden »

So we have another poll with Cain in double digits.

They also polled the scenario without Giuliani:

Mitt Romney 19%
Sarah Palin 15%
Ron Paul 13%
Herman Cain 11%
Newt Gingrich 11%
Michele Bachmann 7%
Tim Pawlenty 5%
Jon Huntsman 3%
Gary Johnson 2%
Rick Santorum 2%
Buddy Roemer 1% (does this mean they'll let him in their debate?)

And the scenario without either Giuliani or Palin:

Mitt Romney 21%
Ron Paul 15%
Herman Cain 13%
Newt Gingrich 12%
Michele Bachmann 9%
Tim Pawlenty 5%
Jon Huntsman 3%
Rick Santorum 3%
Gary Johnson 2%
Buddy Roemer 1%

who wins among...

men: Giuliani / Romney tie
women: Giuliani
under 50: Giuliani
50-64: Palin
over 65: Romney
under $50k income: Giuliani / Palin tie
over $50k income: Romney
no college: Palin
attended college: Romney
Tea Party supporters: Giuliani
neutral on Tea Party: Romney
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2011, 09:34:43 PM »

Tea Partiers support Rudy? I had no idea! Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2011, 09:35:13 PM »

Dear God...
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2011, 11:55:58 PM »

Wow, polls are all over the place right now.

The only important thing I think right now is the Cain and Bachmann rise.
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2011, 12:05:34 AM »

Wow, polls are all over the place right now.

The only important thing I think right now is the Cain and Bachmann rise.

Bachmann's been slowly gaining for a while though.  Cain's rise is more sudden.  Most pollsters weren't even including him before, but the dropouts of Huck/Trump/Daniels has opened up the list of candidates they include.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2011, 01:00:35 PM »

This is why national primary polls are useless in early June.
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2011, 11:59:30 PM »

     People prefer to support candidates that they have already supported at some point. It makes sense that Giuliani would be polling well at this point, since he's a name that many Republican primary voters recognize & have supported at some point. As other people have said, polls will be more meaningful several months from now.
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2011, 12:54:29 AM »

Rudy is another extremely underrated candidate (him and Huntsman).   It's strange that everyone in the blogosphere, which are primarily Northeastern Republican types, thinks he's a total joke when the reality is that Rudy has a lot of appeal to blue collar Republicans.

If he's one-on-one with Romney in New Hampshire, he'd smoke Romney out this time around.  Rudy is a perfect fit for a one-on-one matchup with Romney and the same goes for Huntsman.  Then Rudy and Huntsman will proceed to be smoked by the Iowa winner for the remainer of the contest.
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2011, 02:52:46 AM »

Have you noticed how awful CNN polls are ?
Are they polling foreigners or what ? Tongue
Anyway.

As long as Palin is still a possible candidate, Romney is safe.
One after another, each rightist candidate surges and fades away.
Of course, Bachmann and Cain may be "fresh" faces, but they are so clowny that they can't prevail in the long run.
Rick Perry would be a different thing, of course.
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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2011, 10:51:26 AM »

Rudy is another extremely underrated candidate (him and Huntsman).   It's strange that everyone in the blogosphere, which are primarily Northeastern Republican types, thinks he's a total joke when the reality is that Rudy has a lot of appeal to blue collar Republicans.

If he's one-on-one with Romney in New Hampshire, he'd smoke Romney out this time around.  Rudy is a perfect fit for a one-on-one matchup with Romney and the same goes for Huntsman.  Then Rudy and Huntsman will proceed to be smoked by the Iowa winner for the remainer of the contest.


Blue collar republicans? Lol, like they would be excited for a gun-control, pro gay marriage, pro-choice, and stem cell federal funding New Yorker.
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