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« on: May 25, 2011, 01:32:41 PM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13552685

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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 01:47:21 PM »

now the Muslim Brotherhood doesnt have to continue to rely on tunnels to smuggle rockets into Gaza.

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 01:49:30 PM »
« Edited: May 25, 2011, 02:04:06 PM by Liberté »

now the Muslim Brotherhood doesnt have to continue to rely on tunnels to smuggle rockets into Gaza.

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.

Egypt is going over a cliff? It looks like it's reclaiming its position as a sovereign nation free to determine its own destiny to me. And Godspeed to it.
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 02:05:58 PM »

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You know, that quote could almost be a parody of a Fox News retard knowing nothing about the topic he's talking about whatsoever. I suggest you'd add another layer of ignorance in there, and you're completely there. (Maybe, I don't know, 'the Iran-sponsored Muslim Brotherhood')
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 02:12:47 PM »

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You know, that quote could almost be a parody of a Fox News retard knowing nothing about the topic he's talking about whatsoever. I suggest you'd add another layer of ignorance in there, and you're completely there. (Maybe, I don't know, 'the Iran-sponsored Muslim Brotherhood')

A free-trader should have opposed the siege of Gaza from the beginning. Sieges, blockades, and other dubiously legal military operations designed to choke off the free flow of goods do irreparable damage to the global economy.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 02:37:33 PM »

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You know, that quote could almost be a parody of a Fox News retard knowing nothing about the topic he's talking about whatsoever. I suggest you'd add another layer of ignorance in there, and you're completely there. (Maybe, I don't know, 'the Iran-sponsored Muslim Brotherhood')

i don't watch FoxNews - heck I dont even have a chance to watch TV anymore...

But, what part of my statement are you disagreeing with?:

1)   MB is arming Hamas
2)   MB has smuggled arms to Hamas
3)   MB has used tunnels under the Gaza/Egyptian border to smuggle arms to Hamas
4)   The opening of the Gaza/Egyptian border will help facilitate MB in its arming of Hamas

Or, perhaps you are arguing my unspoken point that Hamas and the MB are in bed together – if not one and the same.

Which is it?

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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 02:41:06 PM »

now the Muslim Brotherhood doesnt have to continue to rely on tunnels to smuggle rockets into Gaza.

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.

This change in policy on the part of Egypt was inevitable, tho the timing was not.  However, what is happening in Egypt is only a sideshow compared to what Israel truly fears, a revolution in Jordan.  At worst, the Egyptians are only likely to allow a free flow of small arms and rockets into Gaza. If the Hashemite rulers of Transjordan are overthrown, It will have a lengthy border with a neighbor that would be willing to fight to reclaim Cisjordan for the Arabs.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 02:44:18 PM »

Your continueing mix-up of Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood is embarassing to read.
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2011, 02:46:21 PM »

my unspoken point that Hamas and the MB are in bed together

Is this similar to how Saddam and al-Qaeda were "in bed together", by any chance?
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2011, 02:54:23 PM »

Your continueing mix-up of Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood is embarassing to read.

I'm not mixing them up at all.  Again, I'll restate the question to you:

what part of my statement are you disagreeing with?:

1)   MB is arming Hamas
2)   MB has smuggled arms to Hamas
3)   MB has used tunnels under the Gaza/Egyptian border to smuggle arms to Hamas
4)   The opening of the Gaza/Egyptian border will help facilitate MB in its arming of Hamas

Or, perhaps you are arguing my unspoken point that Hamas and the MB are in bed together – if not one and the same.

Which is it?


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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2011, 03:02:46 PM »

Your sources for Hamas being armed by the Egyptian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood?
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2011, 03:06:20 PM »

Your sources for Hamas being armed by the Egyptian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood?

Didn't you know? Iraq's Baath Party was the Iraqi branch of al-Qaeda.
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2011, 03:09:02 PM »

Your sources for Hamas being armed by the Egyptian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood?

Didn't you know? Iraq's Baath Party was the Iraqi branch of al-Qaeda.

You fool! Saddam was a puppet of the Iranian regime. Oh wait,..., Iran must be ruled by Al Qaeda then,... It all makes sense now!
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2011, 03:15:58 PM »

Terrific news.
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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2011, 03:18:53 PM »

1)   MB is arming Hamas
2)   MB has smuggled arms to Hamas
3)   MB has used tunnels under the Gaza/Egyptian border to smuggle arms to Hamas
4)   The opening of the Gaza/Egyptian border will help facilitate MB in its arming of Hamas

I resent these accusations.
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2011, 04:06:23 PM »

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.
Yes, Obama should have sent the army to save Mubarak.
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2011, 04:11:44 PM »

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.
Yes, Obama should have sent the army to save Mubarak.

It absolutely galls me that some Zionists basically make the argument that the American military ought to be deployed when and where Israel needs it. And these people claim to be 'patriots' all the while making American foreign policy subservient to another national power.
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2011, 05:54:50 PM »

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.
Yes, Obama should have sent the army to save Mubarak.
It absolutely galls me that some Zionists basically make the argument that the American military ought to be deployed when and where Israel needs it. And these people claim to be 'patriots' all the while making American foreign policy subservient to another national power.
dude, stop allowing your pecker to be waxed by a strawman, no one said anything about involving the US in Egypt.
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2011, 06:03:29 PM »

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.
Yes, Obama should have sent the army to save Mubarak.
It absolutely galls me that some Zionists basically make the argument that the American military ought to be deployed when and where Israel needs it. And these people claim to be 'patriots' all the while making American foreign policy subservient to another national power.
dude, stop allowing your pecker to be waxed by a strawman, no one said anything about involving the US in Egypt.

That's the implication: that we can right this 'wrong' if only we reverse course, and then charge full steam ahead into either bullying the Egyptians to close the border again or doing it ourselves. And I think you'll find the American people will kick you in the ass for so much as suggesting it.
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2011, 06:15:50 PM »

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.
Yes, Obama should have sent the army to save Mubarak.
It absolutely galls me that some Zionists basically make the argument that the American military ought to be deployed when and where Israel needs it. And these people claim to be 'patriots' all the while making American foreign policy subservient to another national power.
dude, stop allowing your pecker to be waxed by a strawman, no one said anything about involving the US in Egypt.

That's the implication: that we can right this 'wrong' if only we reverse course, and then charge full steam ahead into either bullying the Egyptians to close the border again or doing it ourselves. And I think you'll find the American people will kick you in the ass for so much as suggesting it.
oh, so it wasnt a strawman, rather was you stroking yourself.....again I never suggested we bully Egypt or get militarily involved.
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2011, 06:21:41 PM »

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.
Yes, Obama should have sent the army to save Mubarak.
It absolutely galls me that some Zionists basically make the argument that the American military ought to be deployed when and where Israel needs it. And these people claim to be 'patriots' all the while making American foreign policy subservient to another national power.
dude, stop allowing your pecker to be waxed by a strawman, no one said anything about involving the US in Egypt.

That's the implication: that we can right this 'wrong' if only we reverse course, and then charge full steam ahead into either bullying the Egyptians to close the border again or doing it ourselves. And I think you'll find the American people will kick you in the ass for so much as suggesting it.
oh, so it wasnt a strawman, rather was you stroking yourself.....again I never suggested we bully Egypt or get militarily involved.

If you don't like the implications, you ought to be better at picking your words. What would you have us do, then? Continue the current, ludicrous levels of aid we send Israel?
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2011, 06:43:52 PM »

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.
Yes, Obama should have sent the army to save Mubarak.
It absolutely galls me that some Zionists basically make the argument that the American military ought to be deployed when and where Israel needs it. And these people claim to be 'patriots' all the while making American foreign policy subservient to another national power.
dude, stop allowing your pecker to be waxed by a strawman, no one said anything about involving the US in Egypt.

That's the implication: that we can right this 'wrong' if only we reverse course, and then charge full steam ahead into either bullying the Egyptians to close the border again or doing it ourselves. And I think you'll find the American people will kick you in the ass for so much as suggesting it.
oh, so it wasnt a strawman, rather was you stroking yourself.....again I never suggested we bully Egypt or get militarily involved.

If you don't like the implications, you ought to be better at picking your words. What would you have us do, then? Continue the current, ludicrous levels of aid we send Israel?

dude, I never came anywhere close to saying that we should involve ourselves in Egypt or along the Gaza-Egyptian boarder...nor do I believe we should.  It was all just a fig newton of your imagination.

and if we'd would stop arming and aiding Israel's enemies, we might not have to aid Israel at all.
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2011, 06:46:17 PM »

Note to Obama: Egypt is going over a cliff, and you encouraged it.
Yes, Obama should have sent the army to save Mubarak.
It absolutely galls me that some Zionists basically make the argument that the American military ought to be deployed when and where Israel needs it. And these people claim to be 'patriots' all the while making American foreign policy subservient to another national power.
dude, stop allowing your pecker to be waxed by a strawman, no one said anything about involving the US in Egypt.

That's the implication: that we can right this 'wrong' if only we reverse course, and then charge full steam ahead into either bullying the Egyptians to close the border again or doing it ourselves. And I think you'll find the American people will kick you in the ass for so much as suggesting it.
oh, so it wasnt a strawman, rather was you stroking yourself.....again I never suggested we bully Egypt or get militarily involved.

If you don't like the implications, you ought to be better at picking your words. What would you have us do, then? Continue the current, ludicrous levels of aid we send Israel?

dude, I never came anywhere close to saying that we should involve ourselves in Egypt or along the Gaza-Egyptian boarder...nor do I believe we should.  It was all just a fig newton of your imagination.

and if we'd would stop arming and aiding Israel's enemies

I'm not sure if you knew this, but Gaddafi was "Israel's enemy", not the rebels now fighting against him (presumably that's what you're referring to; it's very difficult for me to follow whatever line of 'reason' you're using). Frankly, I think we could get a better deal selling a few tanks to the Palestinians to even up the score. I'm not saying we should, but it beats sticking our necks out for a country that only exists because of the United Nations.
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2011, 06:55:54 PM »

I'm not sure if you knew this, but Gaddafi was "Israel's enemy", not the rebels now fighting against him (presumably that's what you're referring to; it's very difficult for me to follow whatever line of 'reason' you're using).

1) google the armed forces of the countries of the ME.  see all those American planes and tanks in the hands of the Muslims?  that's what I was referring to when I said we should stop arming Israel's enemies, then maybe we wouldnt need to aid Israel at all.

2) Gaddafi is a murderous thug, but dont think whatever replaces him is going to champion human rights.

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Frankly, I think we could get a better deal selling a few tanks to the Palestinians to even up the score. I'm not saying we should, but it beats sticking our necks out for a country that only exists because of the United Nations.
  why dont you go join the Palestinian army and fight against those darn Jews.  go show us a fighting frenchman can do
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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2011, 07:02:12 PM »

1) google the armed forces of the countries of the ME.  see all those American planes and tanks in the hands of the Muslims?  that's what I was referring to when I said we should stop arming Israel's enemies, then maybe we wouldnt need to aid Israel at all.

So every Arab-majority country in the Middle East is an enemy of Israel? And we shouldn't make business deals advantageous to our interests with them because of that? We should distort the market, harm international trade, and all for Israel.

Okay then...
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