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Question: What political philosophy does Zeitgeist belong to?
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« on: May 08, 2011, 07:48:16 PM »

Inspired by the Do you think there are more left-wing or right-wing truthers in the U.S.? thread, I would try and give this idea a shot. I would go right-wing. It's follows are into the same stuff truthers are into.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 09:33:12 PM »

What the hell is left-wing libertarianism?
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 09:49:25 PM »

Neither, troll elsewhere.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 11:09:01 PM »



Closer to that. Probably wouldn't be as nice though.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2011, 04:54:29 AM »

What the hell is left-wing libertarianism?


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iz1rIr46wpU/Tbc5mB3-STI/AAAAAAAABZQ/pSVXshynZOY/s1600/political_compass.png
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2011, 07:39:16 PM »

It's one of the stupidest things out there.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 11:58:02 AM »

It's one of the stupidest things out there.

A jew reptilian like you would say that!
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 10:13:08 PM »

Having taken the time to research this stupid cult, it's actually fairly totalitarian with an emphasis on abandoning money and instead becoming slaves to the robot overlords.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 10:39:04 PM »

Having taken the time to research this stupid cult, it's actually fairly totalitarian with an emphasis on abandoning money and instead becoming slaves to the robot overlords.
Living in circular cities powered by windmills and solar panels and unicorn jizz where everybody knows their place!

The general premise of the Zeitgeist movement, as with most of these movements can be boiled down to this:

"Don't let that guy run your life, let me!"
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 10:58:10 PM »

Living in circular cities powered by windmills and solar panels and unicorn jizz where everybody knows their place!

It's funny that anybody who follows the ZM would associate it with libertarianism.  It's clearly got heavy "government plans your life" undertones.  It also seems to cast negative judgment on social interests and personal choices that do not advance the human race.  That's good propaganda if people watch these movies and think this is liberty.

I have nothing against their city designs.  They might be efficient though strange looking.  Still, why do we need to overthrow governments and the world market for a housing development?
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2011, 06:35:57 PM »

Having taken the time to research this stupid cult, it's actually fairly totalitarian with an emphasis on abandoning money and instead becoming slaves to the robot overlords.


And would be the first communist government in the USA history! :cool:
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2011, 02:09:31 PM »

A strongly left-wing series that is stupid.
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 03:01:20 PM »


That labels libertarian as only based on fiscal policies though.
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2011, 05:02:37 PM »

Perhaps ZM followers can consider moving into the old Jonestown and building their resource based economy.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2011, 03:21:31 PM »

Rewatch these funny movies not too long ago and I see lot of right-wing messages such as the income tax dislike and 9/11 truth crap that appears in the first film.
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2011, 05:26:25 PM »

I don't think that any movement promoting an abolition of human labor can be characterized as right-wing. That being said, I find it hard to place an ideological label on anything this patently absurd.
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2011, 05:30:47 PM »

I don't think that any movement promoting an abolition of human labor can be characterized as right-wing. That being said, I find it hard to place an ideological label on anything this patently absurd.

But it also promotes economic conservative positions on things such as the income tax. It's libertarian right wing, not neo-conservativeism or social conservativeism.
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2011, 09:20:04 PM »

I don't think that any movement promoting an abolition of human labor can be characterized as right-wing. That being said, I find it hard to place an ideological label on anything this patently absurd.

But it also promotes economic conservative positions on things such as the income tax. It's libertarian right wing, not neo-conservativeism or social conservativeism.

Centrally planned technocracy is the opposite of libertarianism.
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2011, 09:25:43 PM »

I don't think that any movement promoting an abolition of human labor can be characterized as right-wing. That being said, I find it hard to place an ideological label on anything this patently absurd.

But it also promotes economic conservative positions on things such as the income tax. It's libertarian right wing, not neo-conservativeism or social conservativeism.

It's a little disingenuous to say that a group that advocates the abolition of money is conservative in nature because it opposes the income tax. If anything, they sound like an ideologically twisted derivative of post-left anarchism.
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2011, 03:40:52 PM »

Rewatch these funny movies not too long ago and I see lot of right-wing messages such as the income tax dislike and 9/11 truth crap that appears in the first film.

Truthers are/were mostly left-wingers with a paranoid hatred of the Bush administration.
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2011, 04:08:31 PM »

Rewatch these funny movies not too long ago and I see lot of right-wing messages such as the income tax dislike and 9/11 truth crap that appears in the first film.

Truthers are/were mostly left-wingers with a paranoid hatred of the Bush administration.

Umm, most truthers are libertarian Alex Jones fans.
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2011, 04:43:26 PM »

Rewatch these funny movies not too long ago and I see lot of right-wing messages such as the income tax dislike and 9/11 truth crap that appears in the first film.

Truthers are/were mostly left-wingers with a paranoid hatred of the Bush administration.

Umm, most truthers are libertarian Alex Jones fans.

Wrong:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0411/More_than_half_of_Democrats_believed_Bush_knew.html
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2011, 04:55:04 PM »

Rewatch these funny movies not too long ago and I see lot of right-wing messages such as the income tax dislike and 9/11 truth crap that appears in the first film.

Truthers are/were mostly left-wingers with a paranoid hatred of the Bush administration.

Umm, most truthers are libertarian Alex Jones fans.

Wrong:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0411/More_than_half_of_Democrats_believed_Bush_knew.html


The loudest 9/11 truthers are right wing nowadays.
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2011, 06:32:02 PM »

Rewatch these funny movies not too long ago and I see lot of right-wing messages such as the income tax dislike and 9/11 truth crap that appears in the first film.

Truthers are/were mostly left-wingers with a paranoid hatred of the Bush administration.

Umm, most truthers are libertarian Alex Jones fans.

Wrong:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0411/More_than_half_of_Democrats_believed_Bush_knew.html


The loudest 9/11 truthers are right wing nowadays.

I have no idea if that's true (I tend to tone out anybody who posits those conspiracy theories), but "loudest" is not the same as "most", so the idea is most aptly attributted to the left-wing.  As a comparison, the Birthers are/were mostly right-wing, even though the idea originated from Clinton supporters, making the latter a 'right-wing' idea.
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2011, 02:32:40 PM »

Old thread, yes, but I discovered this, and it's perhaps the exact opposite of my personal beliefs.
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