Scotland 2011 - Results Thread

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Interesting that both devolved administrations ought to be perfectly secure for their full terms barring the usual.

[afleitch]

I'm sure some in the SNP are regretting adopting the policy of a referendum before independence.

[Јas]

Interesting that both devolved administrations ought to be perfectly secure for their full terms barring the usual.

But...but....but... I thought nasty-complicated PR meant grubby, backroom-dealing, unstable [speak softly for fear of scaring the children] coalitions *shudder* ...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Interesting that both devolved administrations ought to be perfectly secure for their full terms barring the usual.

But...but....but... I thought nasty-complicated PR meant grubby, backroom-dealing, unstable [speak softly for fear of scaring the children] coalitions *shudder* ...

Should I clutch my pearls?

[Јas]

Interesting that both devolved administrations ought to be perfectly secure for their full terms barring the usual.

But...but....but... I thought nasty-complicated PR meant grubby, backroom-dealing, unstable [speak softly for fear of scaring the children] coalitions *shudder* ...

Should I clutch my pearls?

One can only wonder why you haven't been already!

[Silent Hunter]

Well, that's a turn-up for the books. I'm guessing we're going to get a serious attempt at an independence referendum then.

[You kip if you want to...]

Really hoping we'll still have a United Kingdom by the time Scotland has another election...

[minionofmidas]

You can always unite with the Crown Dependencies.

[minionofmidas]

Highland & Island in, Highland LD's ought to perhaps lobby for an end to Orkney and Shetland overrepresentation. (The direct seats there mean no regional seat for them. Not even close, either. Greens came fairly close to nicking a gain, though.)

[minionofmidas]

And it's all in.

Party    SNP    +/-    Lab    +/-    Con    +/-    LD    +/-    Others    +/-
Total    69    +23    37    -7    15    -5    5    -12    3    +1

(Others being 2 Greens and Margo McDonald).

Constituencies scoreboard
Party    Seats    +/-    Votes    %    +/-%
SNP    53    +32    902,915    45.4    +12.5
Labour    15    -20    630,461    31.7    -0.5
Conservative    3    -3    276,652    13.9    -2.7
Liberal Democrat    2    -9    157,714    7.9    -8.2
Others    0    0    21,480    1.1    -1.1

Regions scoreboard
Party    Seats    +/-    Votes    %    +/-%
Labour    22    +13    513,058    26.1    -3
SNP    16    -9    865,834    44.1    +13.1
Conservative    12    -2    244,160    12.4    -1.5
Others    3    +1    238,139    12.1    -2.5
Liberal Democrat    3    -3    102,657    5.2    -6.1
Turnout    1,963,848    49.3    -2

Greens are at 4.4%. Disappointing. I really thought they could outpoll the LDs on the list.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

Really hoping we'll still have a United Kingdom by the time Scotland has another election...

And I who thought you were against the monarchy. Glad to see the wedding made you change your mind.

Seriously though, I don't think this should be taken as a vote in favour of Scotish indipendence, I'm guessing that a referendum would fail.

[You kip if you want to...]

Really hoping we'll still have a United Kingdom by the time Scotland has another election...

And I who thought you were against the monarchy. Glad to see the wedding made you change your mind.

Seriously though, I don't think this should be taken as a vote in favour of Scotish indipendence, I'm guessing that a referendum would fail.

The Tories would the pro-Independence bogeymen as the Liberals were the Anti-AV bogeymen.

[minionofmidas]

A lot of SNP voters would vote against. Then again, some people who don't vote for the SNP would vote for... but seeing as the SNP didn't actually win a majority of the vote... it probably would fail. Anyways, declaring independence on 51% of the vote is a bad idea anyways.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

And it's all in.

Party    SNP    +/-    Lab    +/-    Con    +/-    LD    +/-    Others    +/-
Total    69    +23    37    -7    15    -5    5    -12    3    +1

(Others being 2 Greens and Margo McDonald).

Constituencies scoreboard
Party    Seats    +/-    Votes    %    +/-%
SNP    53    +32    902,915    45.4    +12.5
Labour    15    -20    630,461    31.7    -0.5
Conservative    3    -3    276,652    13.9    -2.7
Liberal Democrat    2    -9    157,714    7.9    -8.2
Others    0    0    21,480    1.1    -1.1

Regions scoreboard
Party    Seats    +/-    Votes    %    +/-%
Labour    22    +13    513,058    26.1    -3
SNP    16    -9    865,834    44.1    +13.1
Conservative    12    -2    244,160    12.4    -1.5
Others    3    +1    238,139    12.1    -2.5
Liberal Democrat    3    -3    102,657    5.2    -6.1
Turnout    1,963,848    49.3    -2

Greens are at 4.4%. Disappointing. I really thought they could outpoll the LDs on the list.

"Others" is at 3 but the BBC's regional breakdown only has 2 seats for "others" (the Greens). Did they actually win three seats or is that a typo?

[Meeker]

And it's all in.

Party    SNP    +/-    Lab    +/-    Con    +/-    LD    +/-    Others    +/-
Total    69    +23    37    -7    15    -5    5    -12    3    +1

(Others being 2 Greens and Margo McDonald).

Constituencies scoreboard
Party    Seats    +/-    Votes    %    +/-%
SNP    53    +32    902,915    45.4    +12.5
Labour    15    -20    630,461    31.7    -0.5
Conservative    3    -3    276,652    13.9    -2.7
Liberal Democrat    2    -9    157,714    7.9    -8.2
Others    0    0    21,480    1.1    -1.1

Regions scoreboard
Party    Seats    +/-    Votes    %    +/-%
Labour    22    +13    513,058    26.1    -3
SNP    16    -9    865,834    44.1    +13.1
Conservative    12    -2    244,160    12.4    -1.5
Others    3    +1    238,139    12.1    -2.5
Liberal Democrat    3    -3    102,657    5.2    -6.1
Turnout    1,963,848    49.3    -2

Greens are at 4.4%. Disappointing. I really thought they could outpoll the LDs on the list.

"Others" is at 3 but the BBC's regional breakdown only has 2 seats for "others" (the Greens). Did they actually win three seats or is that a typo?

The BBC had the numbers Lewis posted but then took away a few seats for several parties... I think it's just a website error.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

Really hoping we'll still have a United Kingdom by the time Scotland has another election...

And I who thought you were against the monarchy. Glad to see the wedding made you change your mind.

Seriously though, I don't think this should be taken as a vote in favour of Scotish indipendence, I'm guessing that a referendum would fail.

The Tories would the pro-Independence bogeymen as the Liberals were the Anti-AV bogeymen.

As disliked as the goverment might be in Scotland, I doubt that would be the case. AV has been seen as a non-issue for a huge majority of voters. Indipendence on the other hand would be big deal for Scotland. A massive change. It'd have huge media coverage. The way both No and Yes turned AV into a complte joke campaign, won't be able to happen in this case.

Also it's harder to scare people to vote for change, than against it.

EDIT: That being said, I'd prefer someone else than Cameron to lead the No campaign (or Miliband for that matter) Gordon Brown maybe?

[minionofmidas]

The website error consists of "Independent - MacDonald" not being listed. Margo MacDonald was reelected as independent list MLA from Lothian.

[You kip if you want to...]

Really hoping we'll still have a United Kingdom by the time Scotland has another election...

And I who thought you were against the monarchy. Glad to see the wedding made you change your mind.

Seriously though, I don't think this should be taken as a vote in favour of Scotish indipendence, I'm guessing that a referendum would fail.

The Tories would the pro-Independence bogeymen as the Liberals were the Anti-AV bogeymen.

As disliked as the goverment might be in Scotland, I doubt that would be the case. AV has been seen as a non-issue for a huge majority of voters. Indipendence on the other hand would be big deal for Scotland. A massive change. It'd have huge media coverage. The way both No and Yes turned AV into a complte joke campaign, won't be able to happen in this case.

Also it's harder to scare people to vote for change, than against it.

EDIT: That being said, I'd prefer someone else than Cameron to lead the No campaign (or Miliband for that matter) Gordon Brown maybe?

Gordon Brown and Charles Kennedy, I think.

[afleitch]

I'm colouring in my map. I really can't use green for the SNP any more

[afleitch]

Yeah SNP green...I'll get a better colour

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Some form of purple?

[afleitch]

That's better

[You kip if you want to...]

Just thought, should the next UK election be in May 2015, it could be sans Scotland...


well, this just completely wrecks the boundary review

[Foucaulf]

Really hoping we'll still have a United Kingdom by the time Scotland has another election...

The United Kingdom of England and Northern Ireland, of course!

Fantastic news for the SNP - one of the few times MMP has produced a majority government. Independence, however, is a completely different matter. As far as I understood it, the SNP campaigned on their record of good governance, destroying the bogeymen traditional parties have set onto it. Focusing on an outsider issue like independence will shock their support down and keep it that way.

Plus the SNP has to figure out the date. It can't be too soon to prevent the support shock, but it can't be near the end of their mandate (as they claim) because god knows where Scotland would be by then. With everyone expecting a referendum, they can't wait until the last minute to announce it. As soon as they announce it, the press will make independence the hot-button issue. All of this distracts voter attention away from the SNP's good policy, which moves the state of the parties to an equilibrium.

At the last minute, I would predict Scots would have had enough of the political muddling and vote No to avoid the legal mess that follows. Maybe Labour would have bounced ahead in England by then.

[afleitch]

Can I just say that this election confirms what I have felt for the past year. In 2010 Scotland was angry with Labour; that was pretty evident. However it voted en masse for Labour in an attempt to hinder the Tories, it was not a ringing endorsement of 13 years of Labour government. This was their biggest mistake one year later in trying to repeat their 2010 campaign theme. This election was therefore a great release of built up pressure against Labour that had been simmering for some time.