Swiss General Elections 2011 (Elections to the Federal Council)

[minionofmidas]

"brechen massiv ein"? Lol.
Naja, ist halt traditionell ein sehr stabiles Parteiensystem.

[Tender Branson]

First national projection:

SVP: 26.8% (-2.1%)
SPS: 18.9% (-0.6%)
FDP: 15.0% (-2.7%)
CVP: 12.1% (-2.4%)
GPS: 8.3% (-1.3%)
GLP: 5.5% (+4.1%)
BDP: 5.4% (+5.4%)

This is a historical election in many respects. Congrats to TenderBranson, his prediction of the election result was way better than mine.

http://www.sf.tv/

Thx ...

Even though I first thought the SVP would get between 26-28%, I raised it to 30% because you said that we should expect the SVP to have a strong result. Maybe that was only the case for Zürich though.

[Tender Branson]

First national projection:

SVP: 26.8% (-2.1%)
SPS: 18.9% (-0.6%)
FDP: 15.0% (-2.7%)
CVP: 12.1% (-2.4%)
GPS: 8.3% (-1.3%)
GLP: 5.5% (+4.1%)
BDP: 5.4% (+5.4%)

This is a historical election in many respects. Congrats to TenderBranson, his prediction of the election result was way better than mine.

http://www.sf.tv/

Thx ...

Even though I first thought the SVP would get between 26-28%, I raised it to 30% because you said that we should expect the SVP to have a strong result. Maybe that was only the case for Zürich though.

It seems that is not really true though:

ZuWo, you had at least the FDP ahead of the CVP, I had it the other way round ...

[Insula Dei]

Good to see the SVP lose a bit of ground. Sad to see the Greens lose a bit of ground Wtf at SF1's headline saying the Green-Liberals and the BDP won this election, when all they did was get over 5%

[Tender Branson]

Good to see the SVP lose a bit of ground. Sad to see the Greens lose a bit of ground Wtf at SF1's headline saying the Green-Liberals and the BDP won this election, when all they did was get over 5%

They were the only parties that gained in percentage terms. That's why they are "winners".

[Antonio the Sixth]

If I remember the few polls I've seen, it looks like the significant trends are SVP underperforming and the BDP overperforming. Right ?

[minionofmidas]

Good to see the SVP lose a bit of ground. Sad to see the Greens lose a bit of ground Wtf at SF1's headline saying the Green-Liberals and the BDP won this election, when all they did was get over 5%

Who else do you think won? They took enough votes and seats to be factors to be reckoned with in the future.

[Insula Dei]

Good to see the SVP lose a bit of ground. Sad to see the Greens lose a bit of ground Wtf at SF1's headline saying the Green-Liberals and the BDP won this election, when all they did was get over 5%

They were the only parties that gained in percentage terms. That's why they are "winners".

Yeah, but their result is hardly a shocker, I'd say. Anyway, the SVP losing its cloak of invincibility might be the start of its decline, one would hope. There are few things worse for a certain class of rightist-populist parties than losing an election.

[Tender Branson]

If I remember the few polls I've seen, it looks like the significant trends are SVP underperforming and the BDP overperforming. Right ?

Yeah, SVP underperforms by about 1-2%, CVP by about 2%, SP by about 1% and Greens by 1%.

BDP does better by about 2%, GLP by about 0.5%

[Insula Dei]

Good to see the SVP lose a bit of ground. Sad to see the Greens lose a bit of ground Wtf at SF1's headline saying the Green-Liberals and the BDP won this election, when all they did was get over 5%

Who else do you think won? They took enough votes and seats to be factors to be reckoned with in the future.

Yeah, but that just highlights how utterly stable the Swiss system is, as in just about any other country on earth these result would generate headlines pointing to a status quo, and the BDP, Green-Liberal results would be seen as slightly less important than those of the main parties.

[Tender Branson]

Compared with the months after Fukushima, the Greens are not really doing great:

They polled 10% after Fukushima and the Green-Liberals at 8%.

Now they got 8% and 5%.

[republicanism]

So, this is the future?
Parties like "Green Liberals", Pirates, Wilders and Palikot?

While all the great parties based on the political philosophy of the last 150 years are loosing ground from election to election?

No, I don't like this.

[Antonio the Sixth]

So, this is the future?
Parties like "Green Liberals", Pirates, Wilders and Palikot?

While all the great parties based on the political philosophy of the last 150 years are loosing ground from election to election?

No, I don't like this.

You can't associate populist far-right outfits with stupid but harmless hippy parties.

[Franzl]

So, this is the future?
Parties like "Green Liberals", Pirates, Wilders and Palikot?

While all the great parties based on the political philosophy of the last 150 years are loosing ground from election to election?

No, I don't like this.

You can't associate populist far-right outfits with stupid but harmless hippy parties.

I know what you mean and agree...but if you desperately want an SPD/Green government....then the Pirates are pretty terribly harmful

[Antonio the Sixth]

So, this is the future?
Parties like "Green Liberals", Pirates, Wilders and Palikot?

While all the great parties based on the political philosophy of the last 150 years are loosing ground from election to election?

No, I don't like this.

You can't associate populist far-right outfits with stupid but harmless hippy parties.

I know what you mean and agree...but if you desperately want an SPD/Green government....then the Pirates are pretty terribly harmful

Well, sure. I meant harmless ideologically speaking.

[Insula Dei]

So, this is the future?
Parties like "D66", Greenies, Ross Perot and that clown Berlusconi?

While all the great parties based on the political philosophy of the last 150 years are loosing ground from election to election?

No, I don't like this.

[Hash]

It's a good thing the future is apparently, in part, stuff like Greens, social-liberals, centrist progressives and that type. Much better than creaky old parties led by old losers with no ideas and no vision except holding on to power, implementing stupid failed archaic policies and living in a cocoon.

[ZuWo]

Second national projection:

SVP: 25.9% (-3.0%)
SPS: 18.1% (-1.4%)
FDP: 15.3% (-2.7%)
CVP: 13.1% (-2.4%)
GPS: 7.9% (-1.3%)
GLP: 5.3% (+3.9%)
BDP: 5.2% (+5.2%)

http://www.sf.tv/

[Antonio the Sixth]

SVP and SPS still losing ground, wow...

[Hash]

Wonderful to see the racists/xenophobes doing comparatively poorly.

[Tender Branson]

How much do you think did the SVP-BDP split cost the SVP alone in Graubünden, where the BDP got 21% and the SVP 24% ?

1% of their total loss ?

[ZuWo]

Seat projection (National Council):

SVP: 55 (-2)
SPS: 44 (+1)
FDP: 31 (-4)
CVP: 28 (-3)
GPS: 13 (-7)
BDP: 8 (+3)
GLP: 12 (+9)

a disaster for the Green Party.

http://www.sf.tv/

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Nice to see the SVP lose ground; this hasn't happened since the 1980s when they were a much smaller party. So there's some progress. Shame that the Socialists lost ground again (even if they've somehow picked up a seat?). Who the hell are the 'Green Liberals'?

Anways... sorry for asking the obvious... link to results?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So, this is the future?
Parties like "Green Liberals", Pirates, Wilders and Palikot?

While all the great parties based on the political philosophy of the last 150 years are loosing ground from election to election?

No, I don't like this.

Eh, the SVP very much fits into that category (as far as that is a category) in most respects. What goes up must come down and all that.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Seat projection (National Council):

SVP: 55 (-2)
SPS: 44 (+1)
FDP: 31 (-4)
CVP: 28 (-3)
GPS: 13 (-7)
BDP: 8 (+3)
GLP: 12 (+9)

a disaster for the Green Party.

http://www.sf.tv/

So if I understand it...

55 Nationalist Conservatives
44 Socialists
31 Liberals
28 Christian Democrats
13 Greens
8 Moderate Conservatives
12 Eco-Capitalist / Blue Greens

As an Eco-Capitalist / Blue Green I consider this a good result!