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« on: March 11, 2011, 12:09:45 AM »
« edited: April 07, 2011, 04:11:39 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2011, 08:52:09 AM »

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Here's my questions: What limit does the SoEA have to write about foreign crisises and the like affecting Atlasia? Could the SoEA write his/her own crisis and respond to it? That kind of takes the challenge out of it IMHO.

The SoIA is limited to regional matters, and I like the idea, but what role would the GM's Office have for regional matters? Would the GM and SoIA have "co-jurisdiction" over regional issues?

That said, expanding the role of these two offices to give them some form of "assistant GM" powers is a great and long overdue idea I heartily support.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2011, 03:49:54 PM »


Here's my questions: What limit does the SoEA have to write about foreign crisises and the like affecting Atlasia? Could the SoEA write his/her own crisis and respond to it? That kind of takes the challenge out of it IMHO.

The SoEA would have to work with the GM on significant crises involving Atlasia.  Basically, the legislation allows the SoEA to get things in gear, and to create peripheral stories that give the GM something to work with.
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2011, 04:11:16 PM »

FTR, if I may, I set out a basic list of RL events which happen or do not happen in Atlasia: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127840.msg2743982#msg2743982

It'd be cool if it could be codified or remain as unofficial policy to make the SoEA/GM's job easier and to not have a sh**tload of boring RL-articles about elections in Niger.
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2011, 04:30:28 PM »

It'd be cool if it could be codified or remain as unofficial policy to make the SoEA/GM's job easier and to not have a sh**tload of boring RL-articles about elections in Niger.

It will certainly be used for reference.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2011, 05:30:46 PM »

FTR, if I may, I set out a basic list of RL events which happen or do not happen in Atlasia: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127840.msg2743982#msg2743982

It'd be cool if it could be codified or remain as unofficial policy to make the SoEA/GM's job easier and to not have a sh**tload of boring RL-articles about elections in Niger.

I don't know how I missed that post of yours from Dec, Hash.

And I agree.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2011, 07:03:31 PM »

Anyone have any amendments or debate to add?
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2011, 09:18:25 PM »

I have one concern. Is that appropriate for SoEA, for example, to make up an events he'd respond to?
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2011, 09:30:40 PM »

I have one concern. Is that appropriate for SoEA, for example, to make up an events he'd respond to?

As I've said, basically what this bill will do is allow the SoEA to create stories as a base for the GM.  It also creates background information.  The SoEA cannot create a crisis, respond to it, and give himself the Nobel Peace Prize.  He creates the baseline, and then works with the GM to share the Nobel Peace Prize.

I hope this alleviates your concern.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 01:40:09 PM »

Thanks Ben. No more objections.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2011, 05:17:31 PM »

Ditto---at least regarding the SoEA's role under this bill. RE: the SoIA, I'll reiterate my earlier question:

The SoIA is limited to regional matters, and I like the idea, but what role would the GM's Office have for regional matters? Would the GM and SoIA have "co-jurisdiction" over regional issues?

That said, expanding the role of these two offices to give them some form of "assistant GM" powers is a great and long overdue idea I heartily support.
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2011, 05:33:12 PM »

I would like an answer to the current question as well.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2011, 10:31:14 PM »

I have one concern. Is that appropriate for SoEA, for example, to make up an events he'd respond to?

As I've said, basically what this bill will do is allow the SoEA to create stories as a base for the GM.  It also creates background information.  The SoEA cannot create a crisis, respond to it, and give himself the Nobel Peace Prize.  He creates the baseline, and then works with the GM to share the Nobel Peace Prize.

I hope this alleviates your concern.

I think I see what you are saying, but I don't see this distinction in the bill itself.

Also, Badger,  is anything more there a bill like this could do to assist the GM or make more GM duties more efficient ?
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 12:27:53 PM »
« Edited: March 17, 2011, 12:31:40 PM by Eamon de Valera »

I'd like to offer an amendment, regarding section 2, point 1, considering GTO Ambassador role as Secretary's deputy.

Section 2 – Secretary of External Affairs
1. The Secretary of External Affairs shall be permitted to publish stories relating to foreign elections, foreign economic actions, foreign military conflicts, etc. In case of Secretary's prolonged and declared leave of absence (specifically, a week or longer), this task shall fall to the GTO Ambassador.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2011, 03:15:57 PM »

I'd like to offer an amendment, regarding section 2, point 1, considering GTO Ambassador role as Secretary's deputy.

Section 2 – Secretary of External Affairs
1. The Secretary of External Affairs shall be permitted to publish stories relating to foreign elections, foreign economic actions, foreign military conflicts, etc. In case of Secretary's prolonged and declared leave of absence (specifically, a week or longer), this task shall fall to the GTO Ambassador.
That's a great amendment, Kalwejt. I hope Antonio will accept it as friendly.

Ditto---at least regarding the SoEA's role under this bill. RE: the SoIA, I'll reiterate my earlier question:

The SoIA is limited to regional matters, and I like the idea, but what role would the GM's Office have for regional matters? Would the GM and SoIA have "co-jurisdiction" over regional issues?

That said, expanding the role of these two offices to give them some form of "assistant GM" powers is a great and long overdue idea I heartily support.

The GM office would more be focused on Senate affairs, and the SoIA would have a focus on regional affairs. My interpretation of the bill is that the GM office would not have powers over regional affairs.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2011, 09:59:38 PM »

Does the sponsor accept the Amendment as friendly?

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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2011, 12:04:20 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2011, 02:50:41 PM »

Oh, damn. Sorry.

Yes, accepted.
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2011, 03:32:03 PM »

Senators have 24 hours to object to the amendment and request a vote.
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2011, 07:05:11 PM »

Ditto---at least regarding the SoEA's role under this bill. RE: the SoIA, I'll reiterate my earlier question:

The SoIA is limited to regional matters, and I like the idea, but what role would the GM's Office have for regional matters? Would the GM and SoIA have "co-jurisdiction" over regional issues?

That said, expanding the role of these two offices to give them some form of "assistant GM" powers is a great and long overdue idea I heartily support.

The GM office would more be focused on Senate affairs, and the SoIA would have a focus on regional affairs. My interpretation of the bill is that the GM office would not have powers over regional affairs.

For the record, though, the GM could still have the ability to post on and influence whatever he likes, right?
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2011, 07:05:59 PM »

Also, just as an outside suggestion, I think all of this should be done in the same thread. Scattering important stories across at least three threads is a recipe for confusion and people missing important stuff.
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2011, 11:34:10 AM »

Agree with Marokai.
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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2011, 03:56:04 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2011, 05:28:21 PM »
« Edited: March 22, 2011, 05:31:44 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

The amendment has passed.


A singular thread is probably the best situation, as far as the Game Moderating aspect. In terms of their offices and duties though, I think the SoEA, SoIA etc should maintain their independent threads, as they currently do.
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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2011, 08:08:08 PM »

Ditto---at least regarding the SoEA's role under this bill. RE: the SoIA, I'll reiterate my earlier question:

The SoIA is limited to regional matters, and I like the idea, but what role would the GM's Office have for regional matters? Would the GM and SoIA have "co-jurisdiction" over regional issues?

That said, expanding the role of these two offices to give them some form of "assistant GM" powers is a great and long overdue idea I heartily support.

The GM office would more be focused on Senate affairs, and the SoIA would have a focus on regional affairs. My interpretation of the bill is that the GM office would not have powers over regional affairs.

For the record, though, the GM could still have the ability to post on and influence whatever he likes, right?

That is a good question. It needs to be clarified in the legislation one way or another.
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