Which is less Christian?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I just wondering what people who attacked me for the latter support option 1.

Personally I find option 1 downright morally abhorrent and vile.

[John Dibble]

Option 2. The Bible actually says things against lust. It really doesn't say anything significant or at all about illegal immigration policy as far as I can tell.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Option 2. The Bible actually says things against lust. It really doesn't say anything significant or at all about illegal immigration policy as far as I can tell.

I recall a verse saying to welcome the immigrant, but that isn't specific and who knows how it relates to policy.

[RI]

Both are pretty unchristian, but I'd say the deporting of illegal immigrants is probably worse because you're directly causing harm to another person and denigrating their dignity as a human person. I'm not trying to excuse using others as sex objects in any way, though, as that certainly does the latter.

[Mechaman]

Option 2. The Bible actually says things against lust. It really doesn't say anything significant or at all about illegal immigration policy as far as I can tell.

Or "Stone Control" lol.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Both are pretty unchristian, but I'd say the deporting of illegal immigrants is probably worse because you're directly causing harm to another person and denigrating their dignity as a human person. I'm not trying to excuse using others as sex objects in any way, though, as that certainly does the latter.

Does deportation directly cause harm?

[afleitch]

Both are pretty unchristian, but I'd say the deporting of illegal immigrants is probably worse because you're directly causing harm to another person and denigrating their dignity as a human person. I'm not trying to excuse using others as sex objects in any way, though, as that certainly does the latter.

Does deportation directly cause harm?

It can do if they are being deported to somewhere where their life may be in danger.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Both are pretty unchristian, but I'd say the deporting of illegal immigrants is probably worse because you're directly causing harm to another person and denigrating their dignity as a human person. I'm not trying to excuse using others as sex objects in any way, though, as that certainly does the latter.

Does deportation directly cause harm?

It can do if they are being deported to somewhere where their life may be in danger.

     They do have asylum for such things, though.

[Insula Dei]

Both are pretty unchristian, but I'd say the deporting of illegal immigrants is probably worse because you're directly causing harm to another person and denigrating their dignity as a human person. I'm not trying to excuse using others as sex objects in any way, though, as that certainly does the latter.

Does deportation directly cause harm?

It can do if they are being deported to somewhere where their life may be in danger.

Well, and obviously the places these people are being deported to are quite crappy in general. Unless you're white and rich, in which case I guess most of them are paradise.

[Gustaf]

I think the most Christian approach here is to not care about this silly poll.

[memphis]

Don't care. Public policy isn't and shouldn't be dictated by religion.

[feeblepizza]

I think that throwing dollar bills at half-naked women is a lot less Christian than deporting people who break the law. Right?

[Lief 🗽]

"When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God." (Lev 19:33-34)

[John Dibble]

"When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God." (Lev 19:33-34)

But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:28)

Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. (1 Corinthians 6:18)

Beloved, I urge you as sojourners and exiles to abstain from the passions of the flesh, which wage war against your soul. (1 Peter 2:11)

There are more of course. The Bible seems to say a lot more about sex and lust than it does about how to treat immigrants.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

That would depend on what is meant by 'Christian', actually, though it's hard to see how either could ever been seen as being good.

[Roemerista]

Well it depends upon what you are doing at, and why did you go to, these so called "Strip clubs." Be that said, individual christian morality is generally different than being a christian and excuting public policy. E.g., while it is not moral to kill, according to the church fathers it is moral to kill as an instrument of the law.

I imagine the same reasoning can be applied here, if it is the law, and it is your duty to deport, than it is quite christian to do so, however, if you are in a posiiton to form such policy, than you would be morally obligated to change the very definition of "illegal immigrant" so that it is more fitting a just image. The same way that a ruler is morally responsibly for the conduct of war, and not the solider. It gets tricky here since we are a democracy, and in that sense the "leader."

To sum it all up, if it is the law, and you are acting in the confines of it, yes it is acceptable to deport illegal immigrants. HOWEVER, the question of is it Christian to Support a definition of "illegal immigration" is quite a different matter. And as the Christian ethic is almost rawlsian (the least of us being perhaps the most important), it probably is not moral to support such ill treatment of the disadvantaged. Which is "more moral"is  not really a valid Christian consideration there is what is a sin, and what is a mortal sin. Both cases have quite the potential to be a sin, yes.

But i will say strip clubs, as it is more likely to be a sin, as not many of us sinners have the chance to dictate policy...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Well it depends upon what you are doing at, and why did you go to, these so called "Strip clubs." Be that said, individual christian morality is generally different than being a christian and excuting public policy. E.g., while it is not moral to kill, according to the church fathers it is moral to kill as an instrument of the law.

I imagine the same reasoning can be applied here, if it is the law, and it is your duty to deport, than it is quite christian to do so, however, if you are in a posiiton to form such policy, than you would be morally obligated to change the very definition of "illegal immigrant" so that it is more fitting a just image. The same way that a ruler is morally responsibly for the conduct of war, and not the solider. It gets tricky here since we are a democracy, and in that sense the "leader."

To sum it all up, if it is the law, and you are acting in the confines of it, yes it is acceptable to deport illegal immigrants. HOWEVER, the question of is it Christian to Support a definition of "illegal immigration" is quite a different matter. And as the Christian ethic is almost rawlsian (the least of us being perhaps the most important), it probably is not moral to support such ill treatment of the disadvantaged. Which is "more moral"is  not really a valid Christian consideration there is, what is a sin, and what is a mortal sin. Both cases have quite the potential to be a sin, yes.

By that logic if you lived in Nazi Germany it's OK to round up Jews and transport them to death camps.

[Roemerista]

Logic? I was speaking of classical theology!

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I hate most classic theologians. Take Saint Augustine, the guy had many views that I'm sure even most Catholics today would find warped.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Neither are unchristian