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« on: February 18, 2011, 01:27:11 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12504347

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 03:09:58 PM »
Being accused of plagiarism in academia is akin to being accused of paedophilia.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 03:25:05 PM »
It looks pretty serious, IMO.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 04:55:04 PM »


He looks like an actor in a Nazi exploitation film.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 06:53:36 PM »
He behaves like an actor, too. He says what the script calls for, never what he thinks to be true - I'm not sure he's familiar with the concept actually.
But the "scandal"... well, lol. There's hardly any law or medicine diss that isn't plagiarism.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 07:24:37 PM »
Quote from: the annotated version of you on February 18, 2011, 06:53:36 PM
He behaves like an actor, too. He says what the script calls for, never what he thinks to be true - I'm not sure he's familiar with the concept actually.
But the "scandal"... well, lol. There's hardly any law or medicine diss that isn't plagiarism.

Why do you think the thread was given the title it was? Cheesy

In the news tomorrow, British cabinet minister caught in bizarre sex scandal, resigns following calls for moral purity from newspapers that publish many, many pictures of women wearing very, very little.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 07:42:46 PM »
If only French cabinet ministers could be caught up in this. Instead, we've got a Vichy sympathizer, a racist, a probable pedophile, a retard and a nitwit who spent Christmas with Ben Ali.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 10:27:49 PM »
There;s a joke here involving the Gutenberg printing press, but I can't quite twist the words the right way.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2011, 11:14:03 AM »


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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2011, 11:14:19 AM »
In scandals like this, denying everything is probably worse than the original act itself. Just like lying in politics is bad when it is likely that you'll get caught.

And Guttenberg has probably lied about not having plagiarized anything twice now.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2011, 11:16:33 AM »
"Probably"? Huh
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2011, 11:17:22 AM »
« Edited: February 19, 2011, 11:24:02 AM by Acting President of Brutopia »

Well, maybe he has lied about it more than twice. Tongue

There is also the possibility that the doctoral thesis was in fact ghost-written in which case it's possible that he didn't actually know anything about plagiarism.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2011, 11:22:07 AM »
Quote from: Tim 'hablamos ingles' James on February 18, 2011, 07:42:46 PM
If only French cabinet ministers could be caught up in this. Instead, we've got a Vichy sympathizer, a racist, a probable pedophile, a retard and a nitwit who spent Christmas with Ben Ali.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2011, 11:54:08 AM »
Quote from: Acting President of Brutopia on February 19, 2011, 11:17:22 AM
There is also the possibility that the doctoral thesis was in fact ghost-written in which case it's possible that he didn't actually know anything about plagiarism.

If that's true then he deserves to be publicly executed.
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2011, 12:12:05 PM »
There was a "scandal" a few years ago about ghostwritten doctoral theses, mostly in medicine IIRC (where the title is worth real money). Nobody prominent was involved, but Guttenberg's uni was.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2011, 01:14:20 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2011, 01:26:30 PM by the annotated version of you »
Guttenplag wiki.
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2011, 01:25:18 PM »

Plagiarisations on 62% of all pages so far? Makes we wonder if anything is actually from Guttenberg himself. Or his ghostwriter. (I can't believe that he was actually so dumb to put together a thesis mostly consisting of plagiarized parts. So assume that he paid someone to write a thesis, and that someone simply knit together various pre-existing texts. So Guttenberg made a very bad decision when picking a ghostwriter.)
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 04:36:15 PM »
And do you call this bullsh**t "a scandal"?
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 04:55:10 PM »
« Edited: February 20, 2011, 05:01:07 PM by Χahar »
Quote from: Iannis on February 20, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
And do you call this bullsh**t "a scandal"?

If academic plagiarism isn't a scandal, what is?
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 04:59:28 PM »
There is a ten-page paper he commissioned the Bundestag research dep't to write for him in there. Unabridged and unmarked, of course. This is arguably embezzlement of government funds. Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 05:32:13 PM »
Quote from: Iannis on February 20, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
And do you call this bullsh**t "a scandal"?

Not everyone's scandal can involve underage prostitutes.
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2011, 05:37:14 PM »
Quote from: Verily on February 20, 2011, 05:32:13 PM
Quote from: Iannis on February 20, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
And do you call this bullsh**t "a scandal"?

Not everyone's scandal can involve underage prostitutes.

True. Senator Vitter likes to imagine himself as much younger than his prostitutes.
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2011, 05:48:11 PM »
Hiring of underage prostitutes would probably lead to the respective political party ceasing to exist altogether here, I guess.
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2011, 08:12:10 PM »
Quote from: Acting President of Brutopia on February 20, 2011, 05:48:11 PM
Hiring of underage prostitutes would probably lead to the respective political party ceasing to exist altogether here, I guess.

Mark Foley would probably cause a second East-West schism.
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2011, 02:40:05 AM »
Mark Foley would just lead to rules changes saying pages have to be 21. If pages existed here in the first place. Tongue
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