Libya: Benghazi unrest, to Civil War, to a new government and Gaddafi's death.

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Maybe the UMP should consider annexing Cyrenaica. It could help their dim electoral chances.

Also, Westerwelle/Germany's actions have been disgraceful, almost as bad as Sarkozy's in the Egyptian and Tunisian days.

[Insula Dei]

Also, Westerwelle/Germany's actions have been disgraceful, almost as bad as Sarkozy's in the Egyptian and Tunisian days.

^^^^^^^^

[Mr. Morden]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704360404576206992835270906.html

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[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Fine. On a French forum about geopolitics and military with guys who know more than me about military and especially French military, technically we could begin something from our own bases, even some things could be done directly from UK, beyond planes it could also pass by cruise missiles.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Oh and India and Brazil are the 2 others that abstained. It was supposed to be cool countries!

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Well, Brazil's foreign policy pretty much sucks. Lula's main fault there is cozying up too much with authoritarian regimes for strategic reasons.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Well, France24 announces that finally EU is ready to apply this resolution, in the limits of its competences, Germany wouldn't have tried to block it in the EU then.

Also weird statements of the Gaddafi's representative, who said they were ready to 'answer positively to this resolution'...

[Lief 🗽]

Great news, though I worry it might be too little too late.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Is that the Benghazi crowd chanting 'One, Two, Three, Something Sarkozy"?

Oh, it would take the Algerian slogan back, well the Algerian one is '1! 2! 3! Viva l'Algérie!', lovely if so, seems there is the '1 2 3' part yes, it could be 'Viva Sarkozy' then, dunno.

Oh, according to someone else they were precisely saying: '1! 2! 3! Merci Sarkozy!'.

[J. J.]

Great news, though I worry it might be too little too late.

This.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Canada will send 6 planes for the no-fly zone.

[Mr. Morden]

Lugar says the US shouldn't participate in a no-fly zone unless Congress passes a declaration of war:

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/17/lugar_no_fly_zone_requires_declaration_of_war

[Insula Dei]

Lugar says the US shouldn't participate in a no-fly zone unless Congress passes a declaration of war:

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/17/lugar_no_fly_zone_requires_declaration_of_war

I might change my opinion of the guy to HP.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Lugar says the US shouldn't participate in a no-fly zone unless Congress passes a declaration of war:

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/17/lugar_no_fly_zone_requires_declaration_of_war

So, a week ago, Obama gets bitched at due to whining about there not being enough action taken in Libya, and now he gets warning and pre-emptive criticism that we need to follow exact procedure and go all in before we do anything.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Lugar says the US shouldn't participate in a no-fly zone unless Congress passes a declaration of war:

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/17/lugar_no_fly_zone_requires_declaration_of_war

Well, I'd think, and hope, that France and UK, won't wait for the US Congress to eventually find this resolution cool, France alone would apparently have big means to do that, with the UK it's still more, we would really have all necessary equipment, Italy proposed its bases, EU proposed all what it could do, really, I hope we won't wait that the guys over the Atlantic find the temperature of the Mediterranean cool enough. Maybe the earliest and the less statu quo possible would be the best since declarations of Gaddafi camp about negotiation of ceasefire could only be here to gain time, I don't know, but anyways, at worst, if some nasty things begin, if we are ready on this side of the Atlantic, I hope we won't wait for the guys over there.

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Canada will send 6 planes for the no-fly zone.

Hahahahahalololololol hahaha. Thankfully we're not sending our wooden ships, or else they'd get there by 2013.

[Lief 🗽]

Canada will send 6 planes for the no-fly zone.

Hahahahahalololololol hahaha. Thankfully we're not sending our wooden ships, or else they'd get there by 2013.

If only Diefenbaker hadn't canceled the Avro Arrow!

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Canada will send 6 planes for the no-fly zone.

Hahahahahalololololol hahaha. Thankfully we're not sending our wooden ships, or else they'd get there by 2013.

Ah, I can't say, CBC is more optimistic than you though, they say they'll be over Libya under 24h, that are some CF-18 exactly, and 100 to 200 men would participate.

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So are idiotic US right-wingers taking bets on when France surrenders to Gaddafi?

[2952-0-0]

http://lewesternculturel.blogs.courrierinternational.com/archive/2011/03/18/confirmation-les-avions-francais-en-vol-pour-la-libye.html

French warplanes are already in the air, and the first bombings will occur before 4 AM French Time, or less than one hour from this moment.

[Mr. Morden]

Lugar says the US shouldn't participate in a no-fly zone unless Congress passes a declaration of war:

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/17/lugar_no_fly_zone_requires_declaration_of_war

Well, I'd think, and hope, that France and UK, won't wait for the US Congress to eventually find this resolution cool, France alone would apparently have big means to do that, with the UK it's still more, we would really have all necessary equipment, Italy proposed its bases, EU proposed all what it could do, really, I hope we won't wait that the guys over the Atlantic find the temperature of the Mediterranean cool enough. Maybe the earliest and the less statu quo possible would be the best since declarations of Gaddafi camp about negotiation of ceasefire could only be here to gain time, I don't know, but anyways, at worst, if some nasty things begin, if we are ready on this side of the Atlantic, I hope we won't wait for the guys over there.

Obama isn't actually going to wait for any resolution from Congress.  Lugar is one of the few voices in Congress who wants a declaration of war for this.  Most of them don't really care.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

After the UN vote:

http://feb17.info/

(it really seems to have been something in Benghazi, soldiers that will participate in that won't do it for nothing)

[dead0man]

I support the no-fly zone.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Well, now we can say honor is (partly) saved. Except for Germany which should really go f-ck itself now, what a disappointment.

Let's just hope it's not too late...

[Middle-aged Europe]

Well, now we can say honor is (partly) saved. Except for Germany which should really go f-ck itself now, what a disappointment.

Let's just hope it's not too late...

Hey, Merkel already has it hands full explaining why she was for nuclear energy before she was against it. She can't need another unpopular military intervention at this point (since any form of military action for any reason is inherently unpopular here). After all, there are elections this and next sunday. At least there were no dead German soldiers in Afghanistan this week.