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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2004, 08:51:04 PM »

While we are talking about this stuff, would anyone favor insituting the Electoral College? Just don't include the states with no voters, and make it so whoever has the most EV's wins, not a majority.
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2004, 08:51:38 PM »

I like Alcon's idea of a time limit to prevent spamming. Perhaps

To vote: 7 days at atlas + 50 posts
To run for senate: 14 days at atlas +100 posts
To run for president: 30 days at atlas + 250 posts

You must register as a voter 10 days before an election to be eligible  to vote in an election, so I think the first is taken care of.
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2004, 09:35:24 PM »

IDEA: What we really should do is lock and unsticky the "NEW Register Thread" and start off with a new register thread (the old thread's registrations stand) that has a detailed information on each major politic party, what fantasy politics is, and our voting methods. Just having
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is forcing them to ask the question "What is this fantasy politics thing?"
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2004, 06:35:28 AM »

Governer Ernest's proposals seem sane
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2004, 09:44:35 AM »

How about a citizenship test?  Once you reach x posts, you can send the filled-out test to the SOFA.  If there are any answers wrong, that person will send the test back and the applicant can change the answers they missed and re-submit the test.  Once they give in a perfect test, their registration will take effect.
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2004, 09:53:57 AM »

How about a citizenship test?  Once you reach x posts, you can send the filled-out test to the SOFA.  If there are any answers wrong, that person will send the test back and the applicant can change the answers they missed and re-submit the test.  Once they give in a perfect test, their registration will take effect.
I don't support that. Having a test may scare some prospectives away. I do like what was put forward by ReddeafeatBush04 of having minimum registration times to be a position. We all know that a person with 70 posts probably will not make a good Senator nor  a man with 120 posts make a good president and the required amounts of time will make sure that people know the system before running.
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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2004, 09:59:23 AM »

I think that putting post minimums on positions isn't a bad idea, but it's kind of moot. Who would vote for a guy with 50 posts for Senate, and what party would actually nominate a Presidential candidate with 200 posts?
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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2004, 10:00:16 AM »

I am recently registered, and have decided to play a part I don't play in real life, the average uninformed voter.  Many people are, in the words of an old poli sci text of mine, "voting specialists."  Their sole political participation is voting on election day.

In real life, I vote, contribute to campaigns, have worked on campaigns, ran for office, been elected to office, and still advise sitting candidates/officeholders/staff.  This is quite a change, but I want to keep the real world and my fantasy life separate.  :-)

I'd like to represent the "voting specialists" here and make this a little closer to a "real life" simulation.  On that basis, I do not favor the change.
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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2004, 12:11:37 PM »

I am recently registered, and have decided to play a part I don't play in real life, the average uninformed voter.  Many people are, in the words of an old poli sci text of mine, "voting specialists."  Their sole political participation is voting on election day.

In real life, I vote, contribute to campaigns, have worked on campaigns, ran for office, been elected to office, and still advise sitting candidates/officeholders/staff.  This is quite a change, but I want to keep the real world and my fantasy life separate.  :-)

I'd like to represent the "voting specialists" here and make this a little closer to a "real life" simulation.  On that basis, I do not favor the change.

What have you been elected too?
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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2004, 01:14:29 PM »

JJ,

Keep in mind my real-life analogy.   Allowing someone with 18 posts to vote is like allowing a 2 month old infant to vote.  Do you support that in real life? Smiley


I am recently registered, and have decided to play a part I don't play in real life, the average uninformed voter.  Many people are, in the words of an old poli sci text of mine, "voting specialists."  Their sole political participation is voting on election day.

In real life, I vote, contribute to campaigns, have worked on campaigns, ran for office, been elected to office, and still advise sitting candidates/officeholders/staff.  This is quite a change, but I want to keep the real world and my fantasy life separate.  :-)

I'd like to represent the "voting specialists" here and make this a little closer to a "real life" simulation.  On that basis, I do not favor the change.
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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2004, 01:17:27 PM »

I am recently registered, and have decided to play a part I don't play in real life, the average uninformed voter.  Many people are, in the words of an old poli sci text of mine, "voting specialists."  Their sole political participation is voting on election day.

In real life, I vote, contribute to campaigns, have worked on campaigns, ran for office, been elected to office, and still advise sitting candidates/officeholders/staff.  This is quite a change, but I want to keep the real world and my fantasy life separate.  :-)

I'd like to represent the "voting specialists" here and make this a little closer to a "real life" simulation.  On that basis, I do not favor the change.

What have you been elected too?

I have a couple of ideas about who he is.  I've Google Searched his name.  I won't reveal anything unless he does though.
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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2004, 07:16:46 PM »


At 20 I was elected to Borough Council; I was still in college.  About 4 years later, I was elected assessor in another Borough; in small counties in PA, assessors are basically elected head counters for the percapita tax.  Two years after that, I was elected to the local school board.  Note that all of these are in small towns in Western PA.

I've also served as a member of my county committee while I was on Council, and about two years before that as well.  I served as the reseach co-ordinator for another county committee.  I've also managed a borough council candidate's campaign and a township supervisor's campaign.  I was also a policy analyst for a state representative's campaign.  I'll add that I have not been politically active, in that regard since the early 1990's, when I moved to Philadelphia.

I do a bit of consulting, in my current field, and some of my clients have been and politicians.  As it's a very rare field, and I'm the only one with the initials  J. J. in it, I'd rather not say what it is.  Supersoulty, without reveiling any information, can attest to my understanding of the legislative process, I think.  Supersoulty, would you care to confirm that?  :-)
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« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2004, 07:33:12 PM »

JJ,

Keep in mind my real-life analogy.   Allowing someone with 18 posts to vote is like allowing a 2 month old infant to vote.  Do you support that in real life? Smiley



I was thinking about some of the other restrictions.  I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of people voting couldn't tell how many electoral votes their state had, or the full qualification in the Constitution for being President. 

Raising the amount of posts, however, is different. 

Treat me here as a voter that doesn't breath politics.
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« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2004, 07:41:38 PM »

Hey, I just found this post (I've been away.)

I'd like to point out that there are people with only about 40 posts who read this forum all the time....like Matt.  He's only got a few posts but he lurks all day, and I'm sure there are many like that who CAN make an informed decision.
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« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2004, 08:58:10 PM »

Hey, I just found this post (I've been away.)

I'd like to point out that there are people with only about 40 posts who read this forum all the time....like Matt.  He's only got a few posts but he lurks all day, and I'm sure there are many like that who CAN make an informed decision.

Who the hell is Matt?
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« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2004, 09:00:59 PM »

Hey, I just found this post (I've been away.)

I'd like to point out that there are people with only about 40 posts who read this forum all the time....like Matt.  He's only got a few posts but he lurks all day, and I'm sure there are many like that who CAN make an informed decision.

Who the hell is Matt?

Some guy with about 20 posts that shows up every election to vote for the incumbent.
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« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2004, 09:01:55 PM »

Hey, I just found this post (I've been away.)

I'd like to point out that there are people with only about 40 posts who read this forum all the time....like Matt.  He's only got a few posts but he lurks all day, and I'm sure there are many like that who CAN make an informed decision.

Who the hell is Matt?

We probably dont know him because he lurks around and only has about 40 posts.
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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2004, 09:40:17 PM »

Here is a suggestion, include both longevity and frequency.  Have two possible requirements, either the person has X number of posts or the person has been a member for Y amount of times.  This will enfranchise active, but newer members, but will also enfranchise lurkers.
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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2004, 10:23:28 PM »

I'm Matt. As Harry said, I read a lot; I just don't say much. And I've voted across the board--from PBrunsel to Harry--not just blind party loyalty.
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« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2004, 10:28:20 PM »

And 4 more posts and you'd be just fine Smiley

I'm Matt. As Harry said, I read a lot; I just don't say much. And I've voted across the board--from PBrunsel to Harry--not just blind party loyalty.
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« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2004, 10:52:23 PM »

I oppose this.  Exactly what will be accomplished?

We already have a 10-day prior registration requirement to vote.  I don't think raising the minimum posts required accomplishes anything, other than disenfranchising new registrants.  Those who aren't interested in this won't bother to vote, anyways.

This isn't broken.  It doesn't need to be fixed.
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« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2004, 10:54:39 PM »

You should have to have a lot more posts to vote so that ^certain people^ don't tell people to register just to vote for them
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« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2004, 11:00:10 PM »

This isn't broken.  It doesn't need to be fixed.

Not broken? You don't think a system is broken when people join just to vote and think "Oh 18 posts? That's it? I can do that. No problem." This system needs to be fixed. More responsible voters are needed.
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« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2004, 11:59:46 PM »

You'll need a bit more persuasive argument to convince me.  Facts, data, etc.  You've provided nothing to back up your argument with.
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« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2004, 12:01:52 AM »

You'll need a bit more persuasive argument to convince me.  Facts, data, etc.  You've provided nothing to back up your argument with.

I believe that its a good way to prevent tomatosouping, for one.
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