My opinion of the top 10 worst Presidents ever.

[Lambsbread]

10. Lyndon Baines Johnson
9. James Buchanan
8. Warren G. Harding
7. Herbert Hoover
6. Woodrow Wilson
5. George H.W Bush
4. Andrew Johnson
3. George W. Bush
2. Richard Nixon
1. Jimmy Carter

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Switch Carter and Buchanan. Doing nothing about a national crisis is worse than having a poor economy.

Also, what's your beef with Bush 41?

[Lambsbread]

Switch Carter and Buchanan. Doing nothing about a national crisis is worse than having a poor economy.

Also, what's your beef with Bush 41?

Bush 41 didn't accomplish a lot in his Presidency and appeared to try to model his Presidency after Reagan's, but failed to do so.

[feeblepizza]

Switch Carter and Buchanan. Doing nothing about a national crisis is worse than having a poor economy.

Also, what's your beef with Bush 41?

Bush 41 didn't accomplish a lot in his Presidency and appeared to try to model his Presidency after Reagan's, but failed to do so.

The two landmarks of his term were the Gulf War (over in six months) and the recession, which wasn't all that severe. He could've done batter, but I wouldn't rank him among the worst.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Switch Carter and Buchanan. Doing nothing about a national crisis is worse than having a poor economy.

Also, what's your beef with Bush 41?

Bush 41 didn't accomplish a lot in his Presidency and appeared to try to model his Presidency after Reagan's, but failed to do so.

The two landmarks of his term were the Gulf War (over in six months) and the recession, which wasn't all that severe. He could've done batter, but I wouldn't rank him among the worst.

Yeah. If you rank "not accomplishing much" as being among the reasons to call one a horrible President, you'll probably have a lot of really bad Presidents.

[Lambsbread]

Switch Carter and Buchanan. Doing nothing about a national crisis is worse than having a poor economy.

Also, what's your beef with Bush 41?

Bush 41 didn't accomplish a lot in his Presidency and appeared to try to model his Presidency after Reagan's, but failed to do so.

The two landmarks of his term were the Gulf War (over in six months) and the recession, which wasn't all that severe. He could've done batter, but I wouldn't rank him among the worst.

Yeah. If you rank "not accomplishing much" as being among the reasons to call one a horrible President, you'll probably have a lot of really bad Presidents.

Yeah but Bush 41 didn't accomplish much while also starting a useless war and failing in terms of Foreign Policy.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Useless war? We were liberating a nation that was annexed in a war of aggression.

[tpfkaw]

1. Woodrow Wilson
2. Franklin Roosevelt
3. Lyndon Johnson
4. Richard Nixon
5. Barack Obama
6. John Kennedy
7. Theodore Roosevelt
8. George W. Bush
9. Bill Clinton
10. George H.W. Bush

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

1. Woodrow Wilson
2. Franklin Roosevelt
3. Lyndon Johnson
4. Richard Nixon
5. Barack Obama
6. John Kennedy
7. Theodore Roosevelt
8. George W. Bush
9. Bill Clinton
10. George H.W. Bush

[tpfkaw]

Well no, actually I'm entirely serious (I'd have Lincoln in #1 or something if I were trolling).  I clearly must be an excellent troll if I can attract this level of interest and attention in even my most mundane postings.

[CatoMinor]

1. Woodrow Wilson
2. Franklin Roosevelt
3. Lyndon Johnson
4. Richard Nixon
5. Barack Obama
6. John Kennedy
7. Theodore Roosevelt
8. George W. Bush
9. Bill Clinton
10. George H.W. Bush

Trolling =/= posting things that you disagree with politicaly

[Landslide Lyndon]

Putting both Roosevelts and Obama in a 10 Worst Presidents list IS trolling.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Putting both Roosevelts and Obama in a 10 Worst Presidents list IS trolling.

[Lambsbread]

I don't like President Obama as much as the next guy, but I can't label him one of the best or worst Presidents until his term is done. As for Kennedy, that's a little unfair to put him in a worst Presidents list.

[Mechaman]

Putting both Roosevelts and Obama in a 10 Worst Presidents list IS trolling.

If it's their personal opinion though is it really trolling?  I mean I bet the leftist versions of wormy and Morgan would put Ronald Reagan and Calvin Coolidge on their lists.

You got to keep in mind that this thread is "top 10 WORST presidents ever", not the "10 biggest failures as presidents".  The word "worst" in my opinion implies more subjectivity than the word "failure" since "worst" 9 times out of 10 means whatever one person thinks is horrible.  I mean from a libertarian standpoint FDR wasn't the greatest man in the world (passing the New Deal, expanding government, threats to pack the court, the whole internment deal, etc. etc. etc.)  If this thread was "the 10 biggest failures as president" then I could see how listing Roosevelt (who was elected four times and passed the biggest pieces of legislation in US History) could be trolling.  Obama, well I don't believe in listing presidents who are still in office on any "best" or "worst" lists but that's just me.  I don't like him but I'm at least willing to wait until 2017 (if the GOP doesn't get it sh*t together which feels likely) before I put him on a "worst of" list.

I mean really it's pretty hard to troll a list of the "worst presidents".  Okay maybe if Washington is in the list they probably are trolling but besides that I just can't really see how a subject as subjective as ranking presidents as the "best" or the "worst" due to differences/similarities in ideology can be construed into trollin.

[memphis]

Anyone not mentioning Reagan is a complete hack.  In addition to setting the stage for long term fiscal clusterfu(k, the man sold weapons to Iran. You really can't get much crappier (or more treasonous) than that.

[Niemeyerite]

1. James Buchanan
2. George W. Bush
3. Richard Nixon
4. John Tyler
5. Herbert Hoover
6. Woodrow Wilson
7. Andrew Johnson
8. Ronald Reagan
9. Millard Fillmore
10. Franklin Pierce

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

Putting both Roosevelts and Obama in a 10 Worst Presidents list IS trolling.

They are both pretty horrible. The Roosevelts are worse, though.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

I guess saving the world isn't enough for some people.

[Mexino Vote]

I guess saving the world isn't enough for some people.

FDR's economic policies are why conservatives hate him.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

I guess saving the world isn't enough for some people.

FDR's economic policies are why conservatives hate him.

I know that. But saving the world should make up for that.

[Mexino Vote]

I guess saving the world isn't enough for some people.

FDR's economic policies are why conservatives hate him.

I know that. But saving the world should make up for that.

No. It shouldn't.  The Military saved the world, not the President.

Also Truman bombed Japan not FDR.

[Mechaman]

Anyone not mentioning Reagan is a complete hack.  In addition to setting the stage for long term fiscal clusterfu(k, the man sold weapons to Iran. You really can't get much crappier (or more treasonous) than that.

You got to keep in mind that there are 44 presidents, a majority of them pretty crappy in their own right.
And somebody could make similar arguments as to why FDR should be on the list (he tried to stack the court, he put people in f8**ing internment camps, he kept silent about lynching laws for most of his presidency, etc. etc.) as you did for Reagan.
Historians rank both of these guys high so yeah maybe they are hacks?  Or are a majority of Americans also hacks?
Hey I don't like Reagan okay I'm just saying that each person sees things through their own rose tinted glasses.  It's IMPOSSIBLE for any normal person with any political leanings to make a list that doesn't come out as hackish to someone else.

[Stranger in a strange land]

I guess saving the world isn't enough for some people.

FDR's economic policies are why conservatives hate him.

I know that. But saving the world should make up for that.

No. It shouldn't.  The Military saved the world, not the President.

Also Truman bombed Japan not FDR.

I've never gotten why Conservative Republicans like Truman so much, or why conservative Dixie Dems call themselves Truman Democrats. Truman was a New Dealer, and his Fair Deal, most of which failed to pass, would have been an expansion on the New Deal. He also vetoed the Taft-Hartley Act, but was overridden. He was also relatively socially liberal for his day, integrating the Armed Forces and implementing the National Mental Health Act.

[Mexino Vote]

I guess saving the world isn't enough for some people.

FDR's economic policies are why conservatives hate him.

I know that. But saving the world should make up for that.

No. It shouldn't.  The Military saved the world, not the President.

Also Truman bombed Japan not FDR.

I've never gotten why Conservative Republicans like Truman so much, or why conservative Dixie Dems call themselves Truman Democrats. Truman was a New Dealer, and his Fair Deal, most of which failed to pass, would have been an expansion on the New Deal. He also vetoed the Taft-Hartley Act, but was overridden. He was also relatively socially liberal for his day, integrating the Armed Forces and implementing the National Mental Health Act.

Truman had the balls to do what most thought was unthinkable. To drop the atomic bomb was something he knew was not popular, or moral. But to end the dreaded war he did what he had to do.


I don't agree with him domestically but foreign policy wise I kinda do.