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« Reply #250 on: January 08, 2011, 04:48:25 PM »

Seriously, if there is a doctor in here I'd love him to explain how could the bullet go through Giffords's head and she to survive.
Wouldn't she be at least seriously incapacitated after such an incident?

Well, the brain doesn't take up the entirety of the skull. Just depends on where, exactly, she was shot.
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« Reply #251 on: January 08, 2011, 04:48:50 PM »

Yeah, keep saying "OMG that's a terrible tragedy" etc, and blame people for "politically exploiting the case". Hypocrisy at its height.
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« Reply #252 on: January 08, 2011, 04:48:57 PM »

Seriously, if there is a doctor in here I'd love him to explain how could the bullet go through Giffords's head and she to survive.
Wouldn't she be at least seriously incapacitated after such an incident?

It's fairly common, surprisingly enough. Reason no.1 to never shoot yourself trough the head, as consequences of surviving a bullet to the head tend to be messy:(
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« Reply #253 on: January 08, 2011, 04:52:36 PM »

Yeah, keep saying "OMG that's a terrible tragedy" etc, and blame people for "politically exploiting the case". Hypocrisy at its height.

You're acting like Jack Thompson. You know that, right? The perpetrator has been confirmed as an insane, conspiracy theorist freak. We still don't know if he had any ties to the Tea Party.

They arrested TWO persons and are searching a third one.
So, there is more than one person.

And that is totally hypocritic to deny than Tea Party injected hate in the politics.
Even if the perpetrators aren't linked to Tea Party, their hateful rhetoric could have had an efffect on them.
You can't deny it.

And, thank God, she will survive.
Sadly, people died of the craziness of the mankind.

And, by the way, on the comments of Quebec news sites, they blame the NRA and the Tea Party.

Thanks for cutting throught this buls**t, Max. Kudos.
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« Reply #254 on: January 08, 2011, 04:52:48 PM »

A couple more random thoughts on Laughner.  His weird messages and favorite books don't really seem to have much to do with two salient issues surrounding Giffords, her vote in favor of Health Insurance Reform, and her immigration stance (on the more liberal side of things, for more H1 visas, for the dream act).  If the heated political rhetoric against her inspired this multiple murderer to go after her, I'm wondering if more of these type of issues would be popping up in his messages and reading.  I think its safe to say that his religious views were very different from what you'd find among the typical tea party people.
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« Reply #255 on: January 08, 2011, 04:53:54 PM »

I don't want to bring politics into this very sad, very serious event, but I found a person on twitter named Caitie Parker who went to school with this nut who said he was very left wing.  I'm not allowed to post links yet but her handle is caitieparker.
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« Reply #256 on: January 08, 2011, 04:54:50 PM »

Yeah, keep saying "OMG that's a terrible tragedy" etc, and blame people for "politically exploiting the case". Hypocrisy at its height.

You're acting like Jack Thompson. You know that, right? The perpetrator has been confirmed as an insane, conspiracy theorist freak. We still don't know if he had any ties to the Tea Party.

They arrested TWO persons and are searching a third one.
So, there is more than one person.

And that is totally hypocritic to deny than Tea Party injected hate in the politics.
Even if the perpetrators aren't linked to Tea Party, their hateful rhetoric could have had an efffect on them.
You can't deny it.

And, thank God, she will survive.
Sadly, people died of the craziness of the mankind.

And, by the way, on the comments of Quebec news sites, they blame the NRA and the Tea Party.

Thanks for cutting throught this buls**t, Max. Kudos.

What bullsh**t? I'm stating what I honestly think: this bitching, in the face of a tragedy like this, is utterly disgraceful. Politics, at the moment, couldn't mean any less to me.
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« Reply #257 on: January 08, 2011, 04:55:03 PM »

She was probably shot through the upper part of her forehead, and the bullet, if it passed through the upper part of her cerebral cortex and cerebellum, it would not necessarily have damaged any part of the brain that controls circulation, respiration and the vital functions, which are all regulated by the lower parts of the brain around the neck.
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« Reply #258 on: January 08, 2011, 04:59:03 PM »

I don't want to bring politics into this very sad, very serious event, but I found a person on twitter named Caitie Parker who went to school with this nut who said he was very left wing.  I'm not allowed to post links yet but her handle is caitieparker.

She says she hasn't seen him since '07. In terms of politics that sort of guy could be anywhere on the political spectrum by now.
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« Reply #259 on: January 08, 2011, 05:01:15 PM »

Jan Brewer just got choked up while speaking about the tragedy. It's always good to see politicians act human.
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« Reply #260 on: January 08, 2011, 05:02:11 PM »

really he does not seem to be on the political spectrum at all
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« Reply #261 on: January 08, 2011, 05:03:18 PM »

Jan Brewer just got choked up while speaking about the tragedy. It's always good to see politicians act human.

At least one politician's actually being sincere through a symphony of otherwise meaningless, empty words.
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« Reply #262 on: January 08, 2011, 05:05:14 PM »


Crocodile tears from a Republican. It's the new craze. See our new speaker of the house.

She was obviously being sincere, there was nothing fake about it.
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« Reply #263 on: January 08, 2011, 05:09:48 PM »

Five people dead? Either that's worse than when I was last online or I wasn't taking things in. Terrible.

As far as Giffords is concerned, hopefully this will be (for her part at least) 'just' an American version of what happened to Stephen Timms last year. Though it's much worse to be shot in the head than stabbed in the abdomen, obviously.
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« Reply #264 on: January 08, 2011, 05:11:38 PM »

Five people dead? Either that's worse than when I was last online or I wasn't taking things in. Terrible.

As far as Giffords is concerned, hopefully this will be (for her part at least) 'just' an American version of what happened to Stephen Timms last year. Though it's much worse to be shot in the head than stabbed in the abdomen, obviously.

And, not to downplay what happened to Timms, far more incredible that she actually survived, although I'm most definitely glad she did.
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« Reply #265 on: January 08, 2011, 05:11:51 PM »

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« Reply #266 on: January 08, 2011, 05:12:41 PM »

Jan Brewer just got choked up while speaking about the tragedy. It's always good to see politicians act human.

Crocodile tears from a Republican. It's the new craze. See our new speaker of the house.

Calm down, please. The hate between both sides is probably a cause of that sad event.
Hate has to stop. So, don't throw oil on the fire, please.

Not all Republicans are crazy. Many of them are sane. There is some insane people in both parties and when they take control of one, things are going bad.

In fact, many opposing politicians are having very cordial relationships between themselves.
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« Reply #267 on: January 08, 2011, 05:13:17 PM »

lol now moderate"dem" is here lol
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« Reply #268 on: January 08, 2011, 05:13:52 PM »

A photo of the shooter.

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« Reply #269 on: January 08, 2011, 05:13:58 PM »

Jan Brewer just got choked up while speaking about the tragedy. It's always good to see politicians act human.

Crocodile tears from a Republican. It's the new craze. See our new speaker of the house.

Calm down, please. The hate between both sides is probably a cause of that sad event.
Hate has to stop. So, don't throw oil on the fire, please.

Not all Republicans are crazy. Many of them are sane. There is some insane people in both parties and when they take control of one, things are going bad.

In fact, many opposing politicians are having very cordial relationships between themselves.

No, sorry.
This isn't politics as usual.
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« Reply #270 on: January 08, 2011, 05:15:10 PM »

Jan Brewer just got choked up while speaking about the tragedy. It's always good to see politicians act human.

Crocodile tears from a Republican. It's the new craze. See our new speaker of the house.

Oh, to you especially: go away. We don't need any more trolls in this thread. So go.

Your side has amped up the rhetoric to this point.
Remember good old Mama Grizzly's "hit list"?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/06/sharron_angle_floated_possibil.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iQ7ZDUutU4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSyZt1v128w

For God's sake, how can anyone deny that this is what they've been telling people? They may not have wanted people to be killed, but it's just idiotic and careless and backwards to talk like this and not expect repercussions.
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« Reply #271 on: January 08, 2011, 05:15:55 PM »

Calm down, please. The hate between both sides is probably a cause of that sad event.
Hate has to stop. So, don't throw oil on the fire, please.

Not all Republicans are crazy. Many of them are sane. There is some insane people in both parties and when they take control of one, things are going bad.

In fact, many opposing politicians are having very cordial relationships between themselves.

You really can't equate the two sides here, Max.  One side is more violent than the other, obviously.  Its certainly not very dangerous to be a Republican politician in america.
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« Reply #272 on: January 08, 2011, 05:17:29 PM »

The shooter, esspecially his smile, reminds me a certain poster.

Nah, tmth is a sweetie.
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« Reply #273 on: January 08, 2011, 05:18:24 PM »

Jan Brewer just got choked up while speaking about the tragedy. It's always good to see politicians act human.

Crocodile tears from a Republican. It's the new craze. See our new speaker of the house.

Calm down, please. The hate between both sides is probably a cause of that sad event.
Hate has to stop. So, don't throw oil on the fire, please.

Not all Republicans are crazy. Many of them are sane. There is some insane people in both parties and when they take control of one, things are going bad.

In fact, many opposing politicians are having very cordial relationships between themselves.

No, sorry.
This isn't politics as usual.

You won't get an answer of me, it would get moderated, then.
Let's just say you are in the wrong group of people on the left.
The equivalent of Palin, but on the left. Eye for eye tooth for tooth, isn't an option.

Opebo: Not currently, but, it is like a scale. One day, it will tip on the other side, and the left-wing nuts will be dangerous.
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« Reply #274 on: January 08, 2011, 05:18:53 PM »

im getting popcorn brb
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