Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) in critical condition, 6 others killed in Arizona

[afleitch]

My condelences to the families of those who have died. My hopes for those who have survived.

As for those ' politiking' on all sides go outside, take a walk and thank yourself you're not part of this tragedy.

[SvenssonRS]

Just imagine what this thread would be if Libertas was still around.

No one would be defending him, or his views - since this freak apparently shared them.

I don't know why I expected better of tinfoilers, but yeah, they've turned to murder now, just to get their points through.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Just imagine what this thread would be if Libertas was still around.

No one would be defending him, or his views - since this freak apparently shared them.

I don't know why I expected better of tinfoilers, but yeah, they've turned to murder now, just to get their points through.

Naturally, we shall not mention the results of an extermist madness, yes... Probably we shall give this poor dude a great hug...

[RI]

According to the Tucson Citizen, a second person has been arrested and a third is still being sought.

[Hash]

Apparently McCain has released a statement. I don't think I've ever seen such an empty-worded insincere statement filled with useless references to God and all that stuff.

[Keystone Phil]

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/01/murder-in-arizona-live-blogging.html


3.49 pm Various Palin sites are frantically removing various incendiary materials - which is both gratifying, but also, it seems to me, an acknowledgment of previous rhetorical excess. TakeBackThe20.com is in meltdown, images like these are being removed ASAP, and Palin's Facebook page simply cannot cope with the number of commenters blasting her.

Yeah, you're just "reporting."  

People have been making an issue that Palin's "targeted districts" for 2010 called for this type of action. And I bet a bunch of you tools, as disingenuous as it may be since you obviously know better, would agree.ed

The Pima county sheriff also attacked right-wingers for their hateful rhetoric against Giffords.
Is he a Dem tool too?

No, just being irresponsible at this point. Again, not sure how many right wingers classify Marx as one of their favorite authors...

[Insula Dei]

'Let's not make this political' really is Conservatalk for 'Uh, this is really going to damage us unless we make it about the other guys'.  Disgusting that anyone could think about that at a time like this.

[Psychic Octopus]

It's painful reading this thread but this is the only source I have access to at the moment. I just hope people consider that every movement has its nutjobs, and that they aren't a hive mind... on the left and right

Second gunman arrested.

[DrScholl]

'Let's not make this political' really is Conservatalk for 'Uh, this is really going to damage us unless we make it about the other guys'.  Disgusting that anyone could think about that at a time like this.

Agreed.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Oh my god, that's unbelievable.  Very scary.  Let's hope for the best.

[Landslide Lyndon]

No, just being irresponsible at this point. Again, not sure how many right wingers classify Marx as one of their favorite authors...

Who knows? Maybe they thought they were reading Groucho's autobiography.

[SvenssonRS]

'Let's not make this political' really is Conservatalk for 'Uh, this is really going to damage us unless we make it about the other guys'.  Disgusting that anyone could think about that at a time like this.

If the right were exploiting this, trying to pin it on illegals or something, I'd tell them the exact same thing: to f**k themselves. Tragedies should never be exploited like this, by anyone, for any reason. End of story.

[Psychic Octopus]

Radio just said she was "gravely wounded." Let's hope for the best.

[rob in cal]

Another disgusting aspect of this killing spree is that in most assassination attempts, its just the target who gets hit, not any bystanders.  This seems to suggest that the killer was even more demented and sick than most political assassins, coupling an assassination with a random killing spree for good measure.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Oh, I'm pretty sure if it was a Republican shot by some leftie wacko, you would now be ramping in this thread as mad

Cut off the bulls**t and let's face the facts. What happened today was a deed made by some right wing extremist and forces like Tea Party, even if may not be responsible for this one, played a huge role in lowering American public discourse and injecting hate never seen before.

Now, tragedy happened, I still hope Giffords would survive and recover, but we should talk about this. Right now is acting like "oh no, let's not talk about politics (because it's bad for us)".

You know what, this is happening when public discourse, whenever from right and left, is falling that low. And we all should take a lesson from this and all tone down.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Yahoo reports Giffords is expected to live.

Good.

[cinyc]

The child who died was 9 years old.

Giffords's wound was a through-and-through on "one side of the brain".  If the previous report that she was capable of speaking is true, it's quite likely that means the wound was in her right hemisphere.

Shot "one time in the head through and through" does not necessarily mean the bullet hit her brain.  The head contains more than the brain.  

The good news is that doctors are optimistic about the Congresswoman's recovery.  The bad news is that others still died.

[SvenssonRS]

Yeah, keep saying "OMG that's a terrible tragedy" etc, and blame people for "politically exploiting the case". Hypocrisy at its height.

You're acting like Jack Thompson. You know that, right? The perpetrator has been confirmed as an insane, conspiracy theorist freak. We still don't know if he had any ties to the Tea Party.

[You kip if you want to...]

Yahoo reports Giffords is expected to live.

Good.

Thank goodness.

[Insula Dei]

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[SvenssonRS]

Yahoo reports Giffords is expected to live.

Good.

Thank goodness.

This. And I must say, surviving being shot in the head is damned impressive.

[patrick1]

The videos made by the alleged shooter just seemed crazy and Cho like- not particularly political. He makes mention he is an atheist in one vid, is an active dreamer, mind controller and wants to create his own currency.  

[Landslide Lyndon]

Seriously, if there is a doctor in here I'd love him to explain how could the bullet go through Giffords's head and she to survive.
Wouldn't she be at least seriously incapacitated after such an incident?

[MaxQue]

Yeah, keep saying "OMG that's a terrible tragedy" etc, and blame people for "politically exploiting the case". Hypocrisy at its height.

You're acting like Jack Thompson. You know that, right? The perpetrator has been confirmed as an insane, conspiracy theorist freak. We still don't know if he had any ties to the Tea Party.

They arrested TWO persons and are searching a third one.
So, there is more than one person.

And that is totally hypocritic to deny than Tea Party injected hate in the politics.
Even if the perpetrators aren't linked to Tea Party, their hateful rhetoric could have had an efffect on them.
You can't deny it.

And, thank God, she will survive.
Sadly, people died of the craziness of the mankind.

And, by the way, on the comments of Quebec news sites, they blame the NRA and the Tea Party.

[Phony Moderate]

Obama is speaking now.