Richardson/Warner vs Santorum/Rice

[khirkhib]

Can I make new maps yet.  I really think this is a possible line up.  Christian Coalition controls the republican party unless the next 4 years is a disaster they will be in charge of who gets nominated.  All of these four have their eye on the prize of higher office.

I think that Richardson really helps out in the west.  We haven't had a westerner in a while.  New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado and Arizona become blue states (in that order)

Warner delivers Virginia but does not get West Virginia.

Santorum pulls in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

Women vote go heavy for Rice in the midwest.  Rice grabs Iowa, Wisconsin but doesn't get Minnesota.  She gets enough of the African American vote in Missouri that it isn't a toss up.

Castro is dead.  Florida is a real toss-up.

[A18]

New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, and Arizona are already blue states.

[Alcon]

Richardson 318
Santorum 220

Toss-ups will be AZ, MO, OH, PA, FL, VA, and NC.

[Ben.]

A Santorum/ Rice Ticket would be a disater... won't happen (sadly). Added to which i still doubt that Richardson will stand much of a chance of geting the Dem nomination. 

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Warner delivers Virginia but does not get West Virginia.

If you think that Warner would lose WV you don't know a lot about the sort of voters he attracts...

And WV might be (very) socially conservative, but most voters in the state (Warner would be able to get the first solid coalfield turnout since 1996) don't look kindly on "Christian Coalition" types.

[Democratic Hawk]

A Santorum/ Rice Ticket would be a disater... won't happen (sadly). Added to which i still doubt that Richardson will stand much of a chance of geting the Dem nomination. 

Santorum/Rice would suit me down to the ground.

I think Richardson, like Vilsack, could have difficulty bearing in mind their states went from Gore to Bush (albeit narrowly), which is partially why I'm backing a strong Democrat from a "red" state

Dave

[WalterMitty]

id certainly vote for santorum/rice. 

[khirkhib]

I meant blue as to the media not to the site.  They would get Democratic like Alcon shows.  Would Rice bring nothing to the ticket.  I really think that Rice is who Bush wants as his legacy (since it won't be Cheney) and I do think that Santorum could win the Republican primaries right now.  Does rice bring anything to the table?  Are the neo-cons and Christian Coalition loyal to Bush in what he wants for the party.  Will he be a king maker when he is a lame duck.

I am worried that Richardson might not win the primary especially the way that it is now.  There is a lot of talk in the DNC right now about why Iowa and New Hampshire are deciding are presidential candidate.  Next election will bring a strong suite of candidates.  When the primaries were starting last time the thought was that Bush would be impossible to beat.  I think Dean changed that and it was close.

[khirkhib]

id certainly vote for santorum/rice. 

What Republican ticket would you not vote for?  I'll see if I can get them nominated. 

[TeePee4Prez]

Santorum has his own problems in PA.  There are people already organizing for his defeat in 2006.  There is NO way he could be elected President.  He would not get PA's 21 votes.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

id certainly vote for santorum/rice. 

What Republican ticket would you not vote for?  I'll see if I can get them nominated. 

Pretty much any Republican in the NC State Legislature, IIRC

[The Dowager Mod]

Can I make new maps yet.  I really think this is a possible line up.  Christian Coalition controls the republican party unless the next 4 years is a disaster they will be in charge of who gets nominated.  All of these four have their eye on the prize of higher office.

I think that Richardson really helps out in the west.  We haven't had a westerner in a while.  New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado and Arizona become blue states (in that order)

Warner delivers Virginia but does not get West Virginia.

Santorum pulls in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

Women vote go heavy for Rice in the midwest.  Rice grabs Iowa, Wisconsin but doesn't get Minnesota.  She gets enough of the African American vote in Missouri that it isn't a toss up.

Castro is dead.  Florida is a real toss-up.

Ha.
Women won't vote for rice just because she's female.

[Alcon]

I'm rethinking my map...I'm now thinking PA and WV would go Richardson. Final:

Richardson 344
Santorum 194

[danwxman]

Santorum has his own problems in PA.  There are people already organizing for his defeat in 2006.  There is NO way he could be elected President.  He would not get PA's 21 votes.

We can easily scare him away from running for President.

If we put up a good challenger in '06 and force him to spend a lot of money...then have the election very close...even if the Democrat loses, it scares the Republicans and makes Santorum waste a lot of money.

[khirkhib]

Can I make new maps yet.  I really think this is a possible line up.  Christian Coalition controls the republican party unless the next 4 years is a disaster they will be in charge of who gets nominated.  All of these four have their eye on the prize of higher office.

I think that Richardson really helps out in the west.  We haven't had a westerner in a while.  New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado and Arizona become blue states (in that order)

Warner delivers Virginia but does not get West Virginia.

Santorum pulls in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

Women vote go heavy for Rice in the midwest.  Rice grabs Iowa, Wisconsin but doesn't get Minnesota.  She gets enough of the African American vote in Missouri that it isn't a toss up.

Castro is dead.  Florida is a real toss-up.

Ha.
Women won't vote for rice just because she's female.

You're right. I was just floored when i heard Bush talk about how she aspired to higher office.  Many of the people that the republicans talk about on this site for 2008 are very different than Bush.  Who are the neo-cons and the Christian Coalition going to pass the torch too.  That is the person that will have the $ in the primaries.  The primary season will be interesting on both sides because  their is no heir apparent.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Santorum has his own problems in PA.  There are people already organizing for his defeat in 2006.  There is NO way he could be elected President.  He would not get PA's 21 votes.

We can easily scare him away from running for President.

If we put up a good challenger in '06 and force him to spend a lot of money...then have the election very close...even if the Democrat loses, it scares the Republicans and makes Santorum waste a lot of money.

no way, we WANT him to run, since it'd guarantee a landslide!

[Keystone Phil]

Santorum has his own problems in PA.  There are people already organizing for his defeat in 2006.  There is NO way he could be elected President.  He would not get PA's 21 votes.

We can easily scare him away from running for President.

If we put up a good challenger in '06 and force him to spend a lot of money...then have the election very close...even if the Democrat loses, it scares the Republicans and makes Santorum waste a lot of money.

Yeah Barbara Hafer will really scare Santorum. 54-46 would be the outcome in my opinion. I guess compared to Hoeffel's defeat, the 8 point loss would be a "scrare."