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Mr. Morden
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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2010, 08:17:43 PM »

I honestly think Gary Johnson could do very well. Palin has the rural white, religious vote, so who's left? Fiscally conservative, socially moderate/liberal Republicans (in other words, libertarians). NH + NV, and he's a frontrunner.

I wish you were right, but honestly think you are way oversimplifying the make up of the GOP. If Ron Paul Love-o-lution couldn't break 20 delegates, Gary Johnson ain't getting the nomination.

Paul had many problems that Johnson won't.

1. Paul's campaign organization was terrible, they didn't really make good use of all their money.

2. Paul is not very good looking, nor a charismatic guy. He can come off as even a bit crazy at times.

3. Johnson may benefit in the southwest due to the favorite son effect. He'll probably take Hispanic Republicans as well.

Still, I do let my hope get the better of me.

I wouldn't get my hopes up either, and think there's no way Johnson will win the nomination.  But I'd add to your list:

4) Distrust of government on the Right is higher when the president is a Democrat, and there's also less of a reflexive defense of the Afghan War among Republicans (now that Obama is the one prosecuting it) than there was of the Iraq War in 2007/8.
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« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2010, 08:33:06 PM »

I honestly think Gary Johnson could do very well. Palin has the rural white, religious vote, so who's left? Fiscally conservative, socially moderate/liberal Republicans (in other words, libertarians). NH + NV, and he's a frontrunner.

I wish you were right, but honestly think you are way oversimplifying the make up of the GOP. If Ron Paul Love-o-lution couldn't break 20 delegates, Gary Johnson ain't getting the nomination.

Paul had many problems that Johnson won't.

1. Paul's campaign organization was terrible, they didn't really make good use of all their money.

2. Paul is not very good looking, nor a charismatic guy. He can come off as even a bit crazy at times.

3. Johnson may benefit in the southwest due to the favorite son effect. He'll probably take Hispanic Republicans as well.

Still, I do let my hope get the better of me.

2. And Gary Johnson is charismatic?
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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2010, 08:33:37 PM »

I see Palin as more like the Senate Majority Leader, in a few years.
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« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2010, 08:35:07 PM »

Paul had many problems that Johnson won't.

1. Paul's campaign organization was terrible, they didn't really make good use of all their money.

So Paul has learned from his mistakes. Johnson would be a rookie making the same mistakes Paul made in 08.

Johnson could make a good candidate in the future, but he needs to start building his name now for 2016.


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So are you gay, or why do you care about this? He's 75 years old, who gives a sh**t what he looks like?

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Paul has an aloof but genuine personality that would make him appealing after four years of supposedly charismatic Obama's arrogant smarminess as he reads off the teleprompter.

Johnson, on the other hand, doesn't have much of a personality to begin with.

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In New Mexico maybe, but where else? Certainly GOP primary voters in neighboring Arizona aren't going to vote for a guy who runs on an open borders platform.

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« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2010, 08:36:42 PM »

I honestly think Gary Johnson could do very well. Palin has the rural white, religious vote, so who's left? Fiscally conservative, socially moderate/liberal Republicans (in other words, libertarians). NH + NV, and he's a frontrunner.

I wish you were right, but honestly think you are way oversimplifying the make up of the GOP. If Ron Paul Love-o-lution couldn't break 20 delegates, Gary Johnson ain't getting the nomination.

Paul had many problems that Johnson won't.

1. Paul's campaign organization was terrible, they didn't really make good use of all their money.

2. Paul is not very good looking, nor a charismatic guy. He can come off as even a bit crazy at times.

3. Johnson may benefit in the southwest due to the favorite son effect. He'll probably take Hispanic Republicans as well.

Still, I do let my hope get the better of me.

2. And Gary Johnson is charismatic?

This really is a problem with Johnson. I saw him on Freedom Watch a few months ago and he really came off as a bit of an awkward speaker. A bit absurd for a someone attack Paul for lack of charisma while supporting Johnson.
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« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2010, 09:02:22 PM »

I honestly think Gary Johnson could do very well. Palin has the rural white, religious vote, so who's left? Fiscally conservative, socially moderate/liberal Republicans (in other words, libertarians). NH + NV, and he's a frontrunner.

I wish you were right, but honestly think you are way oversimplifying the make up of the GOP. If Ron Paul Love-o-lution couldn't break 20 delegates, Gary Johnson ain't getting the nomination.

Paul had many problems that Johnson won't.

1. Paul's campaign organization was terrible, they didn't really make good use of all their money.

2. Paul is not very good looking, nor a charismatic guy. He can come off as even a bit crazy at times.

3. Johnson may benefit in the southwest due to the favorite son effect. He'll probably take Hispanic Republicans as well.

Still, I do let my hope get the better of me.

2. And Gary Johnson is charismatic?

This really is a problem with Johnson. I saw him on Freedom Watch a few months ago and he really came off as a bit of an awkward speaker. A bit absurd for a someone attack Paul for lack of charisma while supporting Johnson.

I'm not attacking Paul, I'm saying why I think Johnson would have a better chance of winning the nomination than Paul did two years ago.

On Paul's looks, it's naive to think those don't have an influence.
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« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2010, 09:07:58 PM »

I honestly think Gary Johnson could do very well. Palin has the rural white, religious vote, so who's left? Fiscally conservative, socially moderate/liberal Republicans (in other words, libertarians). NH + NV, and he's a frontrunner.

I wish you were right, but honestly think you are way oversimplifying the make up of the GOP. If Ron Paul Love-o-lution couldn't break 20 delegates, Gary Johnson ain't getting the nomination.

Paul had many problems that Johnson won't.

1. Paul's campaign organization was terrible, they didn't really make good use of all their money.

2. Paul is not very good looking, nor a charismatic guy. He can come off as even a bit crazy at times.

3. Johnson may benefit in the southwest due to the favorite son effect. He'll probably take Hispanic Republicans as well.

Still, I do let my hope get the better of me.

2. And Gary Johnson is charismatic?

This really is a problem with Johnson. I saw him on Freedom Watch a few months ago and he really came off as a bit of an awkward speaker. A bit absurd for a someone attack Paul for lack of charisma while supporting Johnson.

I'm not attacking Paul, I'm saying why I think Johnson would have a better chance of winning the nomination than Paul did two years ago.

On Paul's looks, it's naive to think those don't have an influence.

Johnson's not exactly Mr. Handsome either.
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« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2010, 09:24:46 PM »

This thread suddenly got very weird.
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« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2010, 10:25:18 PM »

If ever there was a need for someone to make libertarian facemash, it's now.
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« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2010, 11:04:56 PM »

This is a recipe for her to get the nomination. The establishment trying to stop her will only fuel her support,  Republican primary voters have shown that they will buck the establishment.
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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2010, 11:14:06 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2010, 12:57:37 AM by pbrower2a »


Indeed. He is a jungle-fighter far to the Right of America as a whole, committed to the right-wing culture wars and a clear corporatist. Maybe he wins against President Obama if the propaganda machine of Karl Rogue and his type remains effective.

If the Rogue machine remains effective in 2012, then elections beyond 2014 will be as empty as those in Iraq under Saddam Hussein.
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« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2010, 03:47:36 AM »

I see Palin as more like the Senate Majority Leader, in a few years.

What?

Seriously....what?
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