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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: November 13, 2004, 04:39:21 PM »

Boris Johnson Fired
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2004, 04:41:41 PM »

I cannot overstate how happy I am right now.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2004, 04:42:42 PM »

So is arts minister an important job there?
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2004, 04:43:59 PM »

No, but Boris is a total buffoon and doesn't deserve any job.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2004, 04:45:27 PM »

It's a bit of a stepping-stone job. Boris is very ambitious.
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2004, 09:28:23 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2004, 09:57:02 PM by Tory »

I might actually renounce my party over this.

They were just looking for an excuse to get rid of him after his Bigley comments.
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2004, 09:57:49 PM »

They were just looking for an excuse to get rid of him after his Bigley comments.

Wouldn't anybody with half a mind?
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2004, 09:59:37 PM »

They were just looking for an excuse to get rid of him after his Bigley comments.

Wouldn't anybody with half a mind?

No, unless the Conservative Party elite are getting paid to destroy thier future election chances.
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2004, 10:03:20 PM »

I like the name change. I did that about six months ago when Tory peers scuppered the Gay Civil Union bill.

How will you be voting at the next general election?
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2004, 10:13:31 PM »

I like the name change. I did that about six months ago when Tory peers scuppered the Gay Civil Union bill.

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I don't know yet, probably BNP(just kidding!). Yeah I supported the civil unions bill as well.

This has been a long time coming, and isn't simply because of the Johnson thing. If they were going to fire him for the Bigley comments, that's one thing, but firing him over suspicious and unproven accusations is another. It is a symptom of a dying party, one that I no longer want to be affiliated with.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2004, 10:54:28 PM »

I like Boris Johnson. As I understand it, he's a real character, and one of the most pro-Israel politicians on the island. But then, I'm across the pond.

BTW, Bigley and others like him have committed one of the most vile and despicable sins known to mankind, high treason; I do not blame them because I believe they did it under torture and at gunpoint, I view it as if they were forced to rape their sisters under such conditions. I believe in the benefit of the doubt, and don't think anyone is required to show superhuman fortitude and courage in the face of death, I probably would not. But I still view the ideal as the Italian security guard who, immediately before his execution, said "I will show you what it means to die like an Italian".
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2004, 10:57:47 PM »

How about: "I regret that I have but one life to give for my country"
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2004, 11:14:13 PM »

I meant of people murdered before cameras in Mesopotamia in the past 18 months. Great quote, though.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2004, 09:44:22 AM »
« Edited: November 14, 2004, 09:53:18 AM by Michael Z »

This is bad news for anyone who finally wants to see an effective opposition to Blair's autocratic cabal. There's no doubt Boris Johnson raised the party's profile in spite (or perhaps even because) of his gaffes, and Howard is making a big mistake by sacking one of his most high profile members.

And it's like (Ex-)Tory said - for what?! A bunch of rumours? I agree, it's fairly obvious Howard was just looking for an excuse after the Bigley fiasco. I have a feeling the Tories are desperately trying not to rattle too many cages, hence the overreaction over the Spectator article (which I found in bad taste myself, but that doesn't change the fact that the general reaction to it was bordering on hysteria).
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2004, 12:12:54 PM »

I thought this was gonna be that Boris Yelstin died.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2004, 01:26:21 PM »


M, please don't insult Ken Bigley. He didn't deserve what happened to him, no one does. The people committing high treason are the Islamist terrorists- against the human race.


Moving back to Boris, it's apparently for lying about allegations of an affair with a journalist (and getting her pregnant)- which now seem to be true.

He's still MP for a very safe Tory seat, but we'll be seeing a bit less of him now. He's a great character and fun to have around.
I can tell you one thing that will happen next- HIGNFY, Private Eye and Dead Ringers will have a field day.
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2004, 02:09:23 PM »

I don't insult Bigley, I think he was forced to commit treason by terrorists. I think inhuman murderers forced him to defame his nation and demean his people after torture and on pain of death. Even if I am wrong, I have no way of knowing this, so I will stongly assume and believe that the above is the truth.
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2004, 02:23:11 PM »

So is arts minister an important job there?

I always thought it was analogous to our Chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts.  Remember David Frumm?  He is one of the few foreign nationals working in the Bush II Administration.

by the way, I clicked here thinking of yeltsin too  Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2004, 02:48:33 PM »

Frum has one m. Is he working in Bush 2, as what, and where did you hear this? Great guy, btw, I love his writing.
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2004, 03:02:46 PM »

yes, one M.  sorry.  he's an interesting fellow, that's for sure.  I enjoy his works too.  classic liberalism is an area of overlap between us, you and me, so I'm not surprised.

yes, he was special assistant to the President for economics, or economic speechwriting, something like that.  Came in in January '01 with Bush, though he's not there anymore, I think.  Probably left in mid 02ish. 

Check out sometime:  "The Right Man"
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2004, 03:13:38 PM »

He coined 'Axis of Evil' IIRC.

Moving back to Boris, Arts Minister is one step below the  Cabinet level Culture Secretary.
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2004, 08:34:26 AM »

How the oaf has fallen?

I wonder what the dearly departed Woodrow would make of all this!

Dave

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2004, 08:50:31 AM »



^^ Real Prime Ministerial Material this one ^^
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2004, 03:38:05 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2004, 03:54:15 PM »

How the oaf has fallen?

I wonder what the dearly departed Woodrow would make of all this!

Dave



Heehee ;-D
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