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« on: October 18, 2010, 08:23:32 AM »

Still a few months to go, but I noticed a recent poll about it.

TNS-Gallup for Helsingin Sanomat (trend chart):



Most interesting is the rise of the right-wing "True Finns".

They got 4% in the 2007 elections, but already poll at 12.5% now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_parliamentary_election,_2011
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 09:22:52 AM »

The usual factors then? Urgh.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2010, 07:54:46 AM »

Can someone summarise what the witch Päivi Räsänen has said and why there has been a 'church exodus'?
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 03:18:22 PM »

Many thanks Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2011, 09:30:06 AM »

Poll: True Finns edge their way to number two spot

The populist right-of-centre True Finns party has edged its way past the Social Democratic Party and the Centre Party, and is now the second-most popular political group in Finland.

A poll commissioned by Helsingin Sanomat and conducted by TNS Gallup gives the True Finns 18.4 per cent support.
     
Holding on to the number-one spot is the National Coalition Party, with 20.7 per cent support – half of a percentage point more than a month ago.

The Centre Party is largely unchanged from February with 18.3 per cent. The opposition Social Democrats continue to decline, with just 17.4 per cent of respondents indicating a willingness to vote for the SDP – half a percentage point less than in the previous poll.
     
Changes with the other parties are mostly minor. After the top four, the Greens get 8.8 per cent, the Left Alliance gets 7.8 per cent, the Swedish People’s Party gets 4.1 per cent, and the Christian Democrats continue to decline; after a brief surge in late 2010, the party is getting 3.5 per cent.

The poll involved interviews with about 2,500 people between February 21st, and March 16th. The margin of error with the larger parties is two percentage points in either direction.

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Poll+True+Finns+edge+their+way+to+number+two+spot/1135264675289
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2011, 09:52:41 AM »

Fascinating, even if un-original.

Aren't the True Finns a bit overvalued by polls, like all this "post-modern" far-right in Northern Europe ?
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2011, 12:54:08 PM »

Fascinating, even if un-original.

Aren't the True Finns a bit overvalued by polls, like all this "post-modern" far-right in Northern Europe ?

Time to deconstruct the signifiers!
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2011, 05:36:24 PM »

An election for the parliament is Finland is scheduled for mid-April.

One of the parties likely to strongly place is adamantly opposed to the perpetual bailout policy of the EU.

Like to hear from some europeans on what is going on in Finland.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2011, 01:09:55 PM »
« Edited: April 17, 2011, 10:37:46 AM by freek »

The Finnish elections are tomorrow. Advance voting was possible between 6-12 April, 31% of the electorate already voted.

Latest poll, from earlier this month (compared with the election results of 2007):

National Coalition Party/KOK: 21.2% (-1.1%)
Centre Party/KESK: 18.6% (-4.%)
Social Democrats/SDP: 18.0% (-3.4%)
True Finns/PS 15.4% (+11.3%).
Green Alliance/VIHR 9.0% (+0.5%)
Left Alliance/VAS 8.2% (-0.6%)
Green Alliance/VIHR 9.0% (+0.5%)
Christian Democrats/KD 4.2% (-0.7%)
Swedish People's Party/SFP 4.2% (-0.3%)

A history of polls may be found here:

http://www.yle.fi/puoluekannatusmittari/
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2011, 03:36:15 AM »

So, when will we get the first results ?
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2011, 05:39:32 AM »

Oh, I thought Finland and Fance were in the same time zone... Well, that's better so : we'll have the results sooner. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2011, 05:49:26 AM »

How many percentages must a party have to get representation in parliament?
Are some parties  more open to a coalition with the True Finns than others?
Where online can I get the results as they come in, preferebly in Swedish?
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2011, 07:31:25 AM »

How many percentages must a party have to get representation in parliament?
Are some parties  more open to a coalition with the True Finns than others?
Where online can I get the results as they come in, preferebly in Swedish?

http://www.vaalit.fi/53022.htm

maybe?
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2011, 10:57:34 AM »

How many percentages must a party have to get representation in parliament?

There is no formal threshold. The country is divided in 15 districts. The autonomous Åland Islands have 1 seat in parliament, the other 14 districts have 6 - 35 seats, depending on their population. Seats are divided in each district using the D'Hondt method.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2011, 11:01:48 AM »

So ~2.5% in Helsinki, much higher in the rural areas? No equalizing seats whatsoever?

I know it's free lists all round. People vote for a candidate, not a list. Parties' candidates' votes are then aggregated.
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2011, 11:09:45 AM »

So ~2.5% in Helsinki, much higher in the rural areas? No equalizing seats whatsoever?

I know it's free lists all round. People vote for a candidate, not a list. Parties' candidates' votes are then aggregated.

Free lists proportional is probably the best system ever. Smiley If only there were also equalization seats, it would be perfect.
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2011, 11:13:40 AM »

How many percentages must a party have to get representation in parliament?

There is no formal threshold. The country is divided in 15 districts. The autonomous Åland Islands have 1 seat in parliament, the other 14 districts have 6 - 35 seats, depending on their population. Seats are divided in each district using the D'Hondt method.

Ah so it's basicly like City Council elections in Sweden (except using D'Hondt instead of Sainte-Laguë)

I don't exactly understand the free list system? How does that work?
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2011, 11:17:35 AM »

I'll try a prediction:

20% Social Democratic Party
19% National Coalition Party
18% Centre Party
16% True Finns
10% Green League
  8% Left Alliance
  4% Christian Democrats
  4% Swedish People's Party
  1% Others

Turnout: 72%
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2011, 11:17:39 AM »

So ~2.5% in Helsinki, much higher in the rural areas? No equalizing seats whatsoever?
Helsinki has 'only' 21 seats, so ~4%. The largest district is Uusimaa, which is essentially Greater Helsinki minus the city itself.

But indeed, no equalizing seats.
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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2011, 11:20:25 AM »

How many percentages must a party have to get representation in parliament?

There is no formal threshold. The country is divided in 15 districts. The autonomous Åland Islands have 1 seat in parliament, the other 14 districts have 6 - 35 seats, depending on their population. Seats are divided in each district using the D'Hondt method.

Ah so it's basicly like City Council elections in Sweden (except using D'Hondt instead of Sainte-Laguë)

I don't exactly understand the free list system? How does that work?

Votes are cast for individual candidates, but are then counted by party, thus ensuring proportionality. I'ts basically mandatory preferential voting.
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2011, 11:24:02 AM »

How many percentages must a party have to get representation in parliament?

There is no formal threshold. The country is divided in 15 districts. The autonomous Åland Islands have 1 seat in parliament, the other 14 districts have 6 - 35 seats, depending on their population. Seats are divided in each district using the D'Hondt method.

Ah so it's basicly like City Council elections in Sweden (except using D'Hondt instead of Sainte-Laguë)

I don't exactly understand the free list system? How does that work?

Votes are cast for individual candidates, but are then counted by party, thus ensuring proportionality. I'ts basically mandatory preferential voting.

And seats are allocated to the candidates with the largest number of votes within each list, up to the total number of seats won by the list.
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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2011, 11:53:07 AM »

Live Stream:

http://areena.yle.fi/player/index.php?stream=2349&language=en

Not understanding a word, but whatever ... Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2011, 12:00:06 PM »

Exit Polls in a few seconds.
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2011, 12:01:17 PM »

KOK 20.2
SDP 19.5
PS 18.6
KESK 17.3
VAS 8.3
GRN 6.4
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2011, 12:01:45 PM »

KD 4.3, SFP 3.5, Pirates 0.4
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