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« on: October 11, 2010, 02:36:07 PM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollPrint.aspx?g=610b53d5-5fd1-4039-b4c7-4ae7aad0efdd&d=0

If the Tea Party is oh so for freedom, then why do those with a favorable opinion of them oppose legalizing marijuana 59-35, while those with an unfavorable opinion support it 65-25?
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2010, 02:45:07 PM »

You know, it's not like you have to back 100% of positions backed by tea partiers to support the tea party movement (or for that matter, any political party or movement).
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2010, 02:46:59 PM »

Question for "progressive" Democratic Party supporters: why are all the politicians you like no better than George Bush, if not somehow worse? Roll Eyes

Also, Red, marijuana is not the most important issue. Don't know if your tiny brain can comprehend that, but it isn't. The important issues are the economy and government intrusion into every other aspect of our lives. Know who's been mostly against war and the PATRIOT Act? The Tea Party. Know who hasn't? Every last one of you people's politicians, save for Kucinich, Feingold, and Sanders. Other than them, every last one supports both. Every. Last. One. But then again, I suppose you don't give the remotest damn. It's all about marijuana. And opebo.

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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2010, 02:55:02 PM »

Because that 35% of tea partiers are libertarians, while that 65% of people who dislike tea partiers are not.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2010, 03:41:57 PM »

That's a depressing statistic, but not a surprising one. The Tea Party is obviously an alliance of fiscal conservatives. It's mostly conservatives but yes, also includes libertarians and fiscally conservative independents. I think most libertarians are happy with the Tea Party because it is a force to refocus the Republicans toward the things about which libertarians agree with them.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 05:55:26 PM »

Question for "progressive" Democratic Party supporters: why are all the politicians you like no better than George Bush, if not somehow worse? Roll Eyes

Also, Red, marijuana is not the most important issue. Don't know if your tiny brain can comprehend that, but it isn't. The important issues are the economy and government intrusion into every other aspect of our lives. Know who's been mostly against war and the PATRIOT Act? The Tea Party. Know who hasn't? Every last one of you people's politicians, save for Kucinich, Feingold, and Sanders. Other than them, every last one supports both. Every. Last. One. But then again, I suppose you don't give the remotest damn. It's all about marijuana. And opebo.

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Every last one? Really?

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll398.xml

There's 62 Democrats voting nay. Oh and here's the vote on the reauthorization!

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll414.xml

Wow almost 75% of Democrats voting no. And only 14 out of over 200 Republicans doing so.

BTW a majority of House Democrats voted against the Iraq War: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml

And not a majority of Democrats in the Senate, but far more than just Lincoln Chaffee: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237

No the Democrats really have done enough to oppose the PATRIOT Act and Iraq War, that is true. But acting as if any Republicans are going to save us from them is downright comical.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 05:58:59 PM »

That's a depressing statistic, but not a surprising one. The Tea Party is obviously an alliance of fiscal conservatives. It's mostly conservatives but yes, also includes libertarians and fiscally conservative independents. I think most libertarians are happy with the Tea Party because it is a force to refocus the Republicans toward the things about which libertarians agree with them.

     Which would suggest that the Republicans were ever focused on things that they agree with libertarians on, which is rather unlikely.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 06:26:55 PM »

     Which would suggest that the Republicans were ever focused on things that they agree with libertarians on, which is rather unlikely.

Well, I didn't mean "refocus" as in, to focus again, I meant it as in, to change focus. You're right that the Republicans are not historically libertarian in focus.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2010, 06:27:50 PM »

The majority of them have no problem with the nanny state when it suits their own needs.
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 06:29:42 PM »

Know who's been mostly against war and the PATRIOT Act? The Tea Party.

lol Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2010, 06:53:49 PM »

Know who's been mostly against war and the PATRIOT Act? The Tea Party.

lol Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2010, 07:32:43 PM »


Especially as Michele Bachmann heads the Tea Party Caucus.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2010, 11:00:42 PM »

There are still libertarians affiliated with the Tea Party people?
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2010, 12:29:42 AM »

Know who's been mostly against war and the PATRIOT Act? The Tea Party.

I wonder where Tea Party members were when the war first started, and the Patriot Act was unveiled. Oh yeah, nowhere.

I can't expect people that eat up populist, reactionary nonsense to be on top of political issues. 
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2010, 04:35:37 PM »

Know who's been mostly against war and the PATRIOT Act? The Tea Party.

I wonder where Tea Party members were when the war first started, and the Patriot Act was unveiled. Oh yeah, nowhere.

I can't expect people that eat up populist, reactionary nonsense to be on top of political issues. 

That's because after 9/11 people all blindly followed the government. The teabaggers are finally catching on to the negative things Bush (and to a lesser extent Obama) did to America.
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2010, 04:42:06 PM »


The tea party was founded in late 2007 in opposition to war, the PATRIOT Act, and the "war on drugs".
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2010, 06:18:24 PM »


The tea party was founded in early 2009 in opposition Barack Obama.
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2010, 06:20:19 PM »


The tea party was founded in late 2007 in opposition to war, the PATRIOT Act, and the "war on drugs".

Nobody cares now that Dick Armey's hijacked it.
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2010, 11:25:19 AM »

It's funny considering how much Mint used to love the Tea Party and constantly defended it whenever me and the other Democrats were trashing it and calling them the racist Birther idiots they are.
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