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« on: March 18, 2004, 07:12:37 AM »
« edited: March 18, 2004, 07:13:17 AM by dunn »

what do you say?


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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2004, 08:14:58 AM »

They have the radio, we have the internet.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2004, 08:16:51 AM »

They have the radio, we have the internet.
yeah. but it's the TV that really counts....
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2004, 09:20:36 AM »
« Edited: March 18, 2004, 09:21:19 AM by htmldon »

Unless there has been some radical shift in the past two years, this survey is bunk.  The biggest evidence that would shoot this survey down is the 2000 CNN Exit poll that showed that Bush led among Regular Internet users and Gore led among non-Internet users.  Hell, if this survey were even remotely accurate - that "Independent" number would be waaaay higher.
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2004, 09:22:24 AM »

Unless there has been some radical shift in the past two years, this survey is bunk.  The biggest evidence that would shoot this survey down is the 2000 CNN Exit poll that showed that Bush led among Regular Internet users and Gore led among non-Internet users.  Hell, if this survey were even remotely accurate - that "Independent" number would be waaaay higher.


2000 was 3 1/2 years ago
the George Washington U is a serious place
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2004, 09:28:16 AM »
« Edited: March 18, 2004, 09:31:19 AM by htmldon »

Yes, and I'm not even accusing the study of bias - I just don't see how it could be accurate.  Even the Democrats admitted their being behind in technology when Terry McAuliffe claimed that Republicans were using "information age technology to promote stone age beliefs" or some such nonsense after they re-did the DNC web site.  Going from 49-47 to 27-49 in 3 years just doesn't make sense.  Let's see what the 2004 exit polls show us Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2004, 04:43:36 PM »

I believe the data. Republicans do best among old people, and they are the ones who don't use the internet.

I apoligize for my loose stereotype.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2004, 05:14:34 PM »

NO, that simply is NOT correct!!!

Once again, back to the exit polls...
Gore barely won among 18-29year olds, Bush won among 30-44 and 45-59 year olds and Gore had a wide margin over Bush for the 60+ vote.

Those trends usually play out the same way for other elections as well.  Old women are especially likely to be Democrats, while young men are more Republican.

Republicans do best among middle age people Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2004, 03:44:31 PM »

It's certainly not the case of this forum...extremists with stone age beliefs are usually very good with the internet, scary as it is.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2004, 03:48:41 PM »

It's certainly not the case of this forum...extremists with stone age beliefs are usually very good with the internet, scary as it is.
I am not sure, check the register list' btw what about GUSNews poll? DUNNews is doing a survey, there were few changes you know. and I can throw you a hint - we decided that Estaban thats not posting ans was not registersd is neither a progressive nor cemocrat or even ind
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2004, 04:00:42 PM »

It's certainly not the case of this forum...extremists with stone age beliefs are usually very good with the internet, scary as it is.
I am not sure, check the register list' btw what about GUSNews poll? DUNNews is doing a survey, there were few changes you know. and I can throw you a hint - we decided that Estaban thats not posting ans was not registersd is neither a progressive nor cemocrat or even ind

What do you mean? Esteban is registered, and anyone who doesn't state a preference is judged by the colour of their avatar, at least by GusNews. And I was basing my post on Leip's site stats, not the register list.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2004, 04:07:25 PM »

It's certainly not the case of this forum...extremists with stone age beliefs are usually very good with the internet, scary as it is.
I am not sure, check the register list' btw what about GUSNews poll? DUNNews is doing a survey, there were few changes you know. and I can throw you a hint - we decided that Estaban thats not posting ans was not registersd is neither a progressive nor cemocrat or even ind

What do you mean? Esteban is registered, and anyone who doesn't state a preference is judged by the colour of their avatar, at least by GusNews. And I was basing my post on Leip's site stats, not the register list.
ok

NickG registered as a progressive
another guy registeres as a rep
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2004, 04:13:37 PM »

It's certainly not the case of this forum...extremists with stone age beliefs are usually very good with the internet, scary as it is.
I am not sure, check the register list' btw what about GUSNews poll? DUNNews is doing a survey, there were few changes you know. and I can throw you a hint - we decided that Estaban thats not posting ans was not registersd is neither a progressive nor cemocrat or even ind

What do you mean? Esteban is registered, and anyone who doesn't state a preference is judged by the colour of their avatar, at least by GusNews. And I was basing my post on Leip's site stats, not the register list.
ok

NickG registered as a progressive
another guy registeres as a rep


I know. I know all...I see all...I'm on FIRE! Wink

I will soon publish a new GusNews poll! Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2004, 04:17:12 PM »

It's certainly not the case of this forum...extremists with stone age beliefs are usually very good with the internet, scary as it is.
I am not sure, check the register list' btw what about GUSNews poll? DUNNews is doing a survey, there were few changes you know. and I can throw you a hint - we decided that Estaban thats not posting ans was not registersd is neither a progressive nor cemocrat or even ind

What do you mean? Esteban is registered, and anyone who doesn't state a preference is judged by the colour of their avatar, at least by GusNews. And I was basing my post on Leip's site stats, not the register list.
ok

NickG registered as a progressive
another guy registeres as a rep


I know. I know all...I see all...I'm on FIRE! Wink

I will soon publish a new GusNews poll! Smiley

DUNNews is coming with a survey soon...
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2004, 05:14:59 PM »


I say that a large proportion of those who use the internet aren't old enough to vote and that most of these young people are Democrats.....
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2004, 05:16:54 PM »


I say that a large proportion of those who use the internet aren't old enough to vote and that most of these young people are Democrats.....

this is for 18+
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2004, 05:23:56 PM »

you sure about that? if it is online, how do they verify that the person taking the test is over the required age, surely someone could take it for their mother or father if required to provide personal information.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2004, 05:30:32 PM »

you sure about that? if it is online, how do they verify that the person taking the test is over the required age, surely someone could take it for their mother or father if required to provide personal information.
the survey i geuss was done with real people

not on rhe web
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2004, 05:50:48 PM »

ah i see, well do you know where? because if for example it was conducted in California in Silicon valley, then the figures would be like that or possibly more pro Democrat.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2004, 05:54:30 PM »

ah i see, well do you know where? because if for example it was conducted in California in Silicon valley, then the figures would be like that or possibly more pro Democrat.

should be nationwide
I'll try to check
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2004, 06:22:30 PM »

JFK

It's a 56 page report so here's hoe it was done



HOW WE CONDUCTED THE STUDY
The Institute for Politics, Democracy & the Internet commissioned parallel
surveys on the Internet and by telephone. Nielsen//NetRatings and RoperASW,
respectively, conducted the two surveys. Nielsen//NetRatings surveyed 1,392
Internet users who visited presidential campaign Web sites, other political sites
(such as Web logs and party sites) and online news sites. At the same time,
RoperASW conducted a nationwide telephone survey of 1,029 adults, seeking
comparable data from a representative sample of the general population. The
Nielsen online survey looks in-depth at this unique community, while the Roper
national survey confirms those findings. For a thorough discussion of survey
methodologies please consult the full report below, or at www.ipdi.org.
The Institute for Politics, Democracy & the Internet is funded by a grant from
The Pew Charitable Trusts and administered by The George Washington
University Graduate School of Political Management. It is the premier research
and advocacy center promoting the development of online politics in a manner
that encourages citizen participation and is consistent with democratic principles.
For more information, visit www.ipdi.org.
Nielsen//NetRatings is the global standard for Internet audience measurement
and analysis and is a premier source for online advertising research. Covering
70% of the world’s Internet usage, the Nielsen//NetRatings services offer
syndicated Internet and digital media research reports and custom-tailored
data to help companies gain valuable insight into their business. For more
information, visit www.nielsen-netratings.com.
RoperASW, an NOP World company, is a leading global marketing research
and consulting firm. With headquarters in New York and offices in London,
Manila, and throughout the U.S., NOP World is the seventh largest market
research company in the U.S. and the ninth largest in the world. Bringing
together some of the most renowned U.S. and European research firms
in a unified global network, NOP World is a wholly-owned subsidiary of
UK-based United Business Media plc. For more information, visit
www.roperasw.com.
MSNBC.com and Slate.com provided funding. MSNBC.com, an Internet
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2005, 03:50:46 PM »


I say that a large proportion of those who use the internet aren't old enough to vote and that most of these young people are Democrats.....

this is for 18+


on the internet, everyone is 18+ Wink
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