Nixon 1960!

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

You'd think with party ideologies remaining unchanged in 50 years (and essentially both operating in the same middle ground), there would be likely be a growing number of 'third' parties, not just libertarianism.

I do find some elements a little hard to comprehend... but it's certainly an entertaining TL - well done.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

The President can't just personally eliminate an department.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The President can't just personally eliminate an department.

In that case, Goldwater was able to marshall enough support from Congress in order to pass bills that specifically eliminated certain departments. If you want, I can edit the first term of Barry Goldwater Jr part one to contain that, so future readers understand.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The First Term of Barry M Goldwater II Part Two

As the first year of his Presidency ended, Goldwater wanted to turn more towards social issues. The economy was in a mild recovery, but nothing major happened. This gave teh President more time to work on a coherent domestic agenda.

In terms of abortion, a touchy subject, Goldwater believed that it was "woman's right to choose". However, his Vice-President, Ron Paul of Texas who had worked as an obstrecionist, had come to believe from his work that life began at conception. In order to not cause strife, Goldwater and Paul worked on a compromise. They agreed to endorse a ballot intiative by state that would have the people vote, up or down, on whether abortion would be legal in that state. In a meeting of all the state governors, the governors voted to sponsor a fifty state ballot initiative with the chioces of whether abortion would be legal or illegal. However, there would be adjustments per state, changing the language slightly on the ballot to say have the chioces of whether the voter wanted:

1) Abortion to be illegal for acouple who had conceived a child with mutual consent
2) for abortion to be legal for a couple with who conceived a child with mutual consent

The ballot initiative was risky and controversial, but the Goldwater Administration supported it because

Now, for once, we can have an up or down vote by state to settle this issue. This is what the founders wanted when they said in the tenth amendment that all rights not included in the constitution or its amendments would be determined by the states.

As new broke about it, a map began to form of possible states that would vote for the legalization of abortion, states that would vote against the legalization of abortion, and toss-ups. The official vote would be taken on the same ballots used during the mid-term elections in November of that year, 1990. The map looked like:

Red: Life
Blue: Death/Choice
Green: Perceived toss-up

Immediately following the polls were released, some people, seeing toss-ups or leans, decided to endorse a certain way of voting in order to help their state go the way they wanted.

The major people endorsing the pro-life voting were:
Senator jack Kemp of New York
Secretary of State mark Hatfield of Oregon
Vice-President Ron Paul of Texas
Senator Bob Dole of Kansas
Former Ambassador to the United Nations Patrick J Buchanan of Maryland
Former President Ronald Reagan of California
Former President John F Kennedy of Massachusetts
Pennsylvania Gubernatorial Candidate Robert Casey

The major people endorsing pro-choice voting were:
Former President George Bush of Texas
Former Vice-President Robert Finch of California
Senator and Gubernatorial Candidate Jerry Brown of California
Former Vice-President Gerald R Ford of Michigan
Former President Richard M Nixon of California
Former Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona
Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska
Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker of Tennessee

Major political figures that were either on the fence or unwilling to voice their opinions:
President Barry Goldwater Jr. of California
Secretary of Education Robert F Kennedy of New York
Senate Majority Leader Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts

With the debate in full swing over what some Conservative Democrats called "Life Vs Death", partisan rage followed. Both sides saw themselves as running out of time before the mid-term elections which would decided results per state. New York Senator Jack Kemp was one of the busiest, working to turn around his state in order for it to vote "life" in November. Certain people who had endorsed different sides, such as Kansas Senator Bob Dole and Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker chose not to get involved as much. In November, the states would vote accordingly:

Red: Life
Blue : Death/Choice

In those same mid-term elections, there were a couple of important races. In Texas, so of former President George Bush won election to the House of Representatives by a tight margin. His father's reputation hadn't recovered completely. In another Texan race, businessman H Ross Perot won election to the House of Representatives. In Pennsylvania, former State Auditor Robert Casey, a Democrat, finally was elected Governor. In Michigan, John Engler, a Moderate Democrat, was elected Governor.

[Niemeyerite]

I begin to like goldwater's presidency. abortion should be legal

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

You'd think with party ideologies remaining unchanged in 50 years (and essentially both operating in the same middle ground), there would be likely be a growing number of 'third' parties, not just libertarianism.

I do find some elements a little hard to comprehend... but it's certainly an entertaining TL - well done.

Republicans: Eisenhoweresque; Fiscally Conservative to the point of being willing to raise taxes; Sort of what Prescott Bush said about how he believed government should raise taxes to the point needed to close the deficit; socially liberal for the most part; Most successful President post-Eisenhower: Nixon

Democrats: Kempesque; Committed to poverty reduction, but seek to do it using free market forces and education; drifting socially conservative; original ideaology I used was modeled after John F Kennedy; Most Successful President post-Truman: Kennedy or Reagan

With the Libertarians moving away, it was mainly the result of Goldwater not identifying with either of the two major parties. This lead to a groundswell of dis-satisfied Conservatives voting for Goldwater, and later for Hatfield, and to a lesser extent, Gravel.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The real ideology of the Democrats at this time is a combination of Kennedy Keynesianism (which was actually more Conservative than Eisenhower's modern Republicanism), and Reagan/Kemp Conservatism. Therefore, the sarcastic name for wingnut Democrats, is, of course:

Those darn radical, right-wing Keynservative Democrats.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The First Term of Barry M Goldwater II Part Three

After having, temporarily at least, finalized the debate on abortion, President Goldwater was looking to do similar things with gay marriage and drugs legalization. However, the majority of his time was spent on finding a solution to Palestine. Since the beginning of 1989, President Goldwater had been pressuring Rumsfeld to come up with a viable strategy for both Palestine and the "New Army". In May, 1990 more troops were sent over to Palestine as a temporary fix. In July, the first real change to strategy took place with more and more man helicopter missions as opposed to traveling by foot or truck. The US had slowly been attempting to transfer more authority over the cities and town to the UN, however, since the time when the United Nations were moved to Great Britain, relations had been strained with the United Nations. Goldwater attmpted to recruit former Secretary of State Lloyd Bentsen who had been Ambassador to the United Nations for a very short time under Kennedy. However, Bentsen at the time was Governor of Texas, having won election in 1986. Bentsen was unwilling to leave his position. With that, Goldwater tried to recruit Buchanan for a second time, however, Buchanan had felt alienated by the Administration and was unwilling to rejoin with Goldwater. After talking with several people, including former President Reagan himself who was unwilling to do it because of his age, in December 1990, Goldwater had one last person that he could see doing the job, who had considerable experience with diplomacy:

After much debate and talk, with my advisers and with my friends, and after having consulted several people, I have found one choice. He is possible the most experienced of people for the job. A United States Congressman from 1947 to 1953, a United States Senator from 1953 to 1969, the man who will be negotiating with the United Nations is former President John F Kennedy!

Kennedy, who had been in semi-retirement since 1971, and who had gone under significant medical recovery, and had been approached by Goldwater after people such as Buchanan and Bentsen had declined, took to the podium, much older and grayer than when America first saw him as the 1960 Democratic Presidential nominee. In his signature Boston accent, he spoke:

After talking with President Goldwater, as well as my closest advisors including my brothers Robert and Ted, I have decided to accept this position. This is not a statement of partisanship, but a statement of commitment to my county. Because of recent strained relations with the United Nations, attempts by America to hand off authority over Palestine to the United Nations have stalled. I am accepting this position in order to see that our troops are able to win the war in Palestine as quickly, as efficiently, and as bloodlessly as possible. Thank you, that will be all.

The cover of Time Magazine with a much younger John F Kennedy, and an article explaining why the former President was the right man for the job.

The Democrats were becoming increasingly annoyed with the Kennedys and the Reagans over their continued association with Goldwater. They saw it as some subtle endorsement of Goldwater's plicies, which on social and foreign policy issues, differed widely with what Democrats believed.

In hsi final major accomplishment during his first term, President Goldwater unveiled the Election Reform Amendment on 1991, which stated that the United States would no longer use the electoral college, and that the results of the election would be determined by popular vote. The Amendment woudl go on the ballot in November of 1991 in order to be ready for 1992 election. It passed Congress and the American people easily and was made law.
 
In the 1992 Presidential Election, despite Goldwater's popularity and the recovering economy, there were still candidates willing to chalenge Goldwater.
For the Democrats:
Senate Majority Leader Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts
Senator Jack Kemp of New York
Governor Robert Casey of Pennsylvania
Former Ambassador to the United Nations Patrick Buchanan

For the Republicans:
Congressman Mitt Romney of Massachusetts
Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker of Tennessee
Senator John Chaffee of Rhode Island
Senate Minority Whip Bob Dole of Kansas

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

The President can't just personally eliminate an department.

In that case, Goldwater was able to marshall enough support from Congress in order to pass bills that specifically eliminated certain departments. If you want, I can edit the first term of Barry Goldwater Jr part one to contain that, so future readers understand.

Ok, just wanted to clarify.

Keep it coming.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Upcoming:
The 1992 Presidential Election!
It's hard to think that I've been registered on this forum less than three weeks, and I only have four more elections to go.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The 1992 Presidential Election Part One

At first, Barry Goldwater Jr.'s re-election seemed like a shoo-in. However, his former Chief of Staff, and at that point, his campaign manager, was looking over the poll numbers, and found out the abortion debate had alienated him to some voters in the plains/mountain states, while not gaining him any more ground in the East. Besides, the Democrats most definitely wouldn't nominate the womanizing Bill Clinton a second time, and the horrible economic times that had existed between 1989 and 1990 were less at the front os people's minds. However, because of the Electoral Reform Amendment, and Goldwater being the incumbent, Goldwater still had a good chnce because he didn't require 270 electoral votes, only the majority of the popular vote.

In the Democratic Primaries, New York Senator Jack Kemp finally got his chance, and beat Senate Majority Leader Ted Kennedy in a tough primary contest. In order to attract voters in the South, he chose Tennessee Senator Al Gore who had been elected to the Senate in 1988, for Vice-President. The more interesting parts of the primaries wrere the dynamic between Kennedy and Kemp, both of which were seen as the party leaders; and the dynamic between Buchanan and Casey, both of which were seen as the populists. It was estimated that both Casey and Buchanan could have done better had one of them not been in the race. One reporter marvelled at Buchanan's success: "One thing that never fails to amaze during these primaries is the "Buchanan Coalition", which is the careful strining together of the Religous Right, Southern Populism, Blue Collar Appeal, and Old Right Paleo-Conservatism. This Coalition has led to Buchana's surprise victories in Nevada, Washington, Alaska, Ohio, West Virginia, and other states."

Democratic Primary Map:

Green: Kemp
Blue: Kennedy
Red: Buchanan
Orange: Casey

In the Republican Primaries, Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker narrowly beat out his opponents. His largest opponent was Senate Minority Whip Robert Dole who attempted to make an issue of Baker's support for abortion in order to gain traction among Conservative and Mountain Republicans. Baker chose John Chaffee of Shode Island in order to attract North-Easterners.

Republican Primary Map:

Red: Baker
Blue: Dole
Gray: Chaffee
Green: Romney

In the general election, the tickets would be:
President Barry Goldwater Jr. (L-CA)/Vice-President Ron Paul (L-TX)
Senate Majority Whip Jack Kemp (D-NY)/Senator Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)
Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker (R-TN)/Senator John Chaffee (R-RI)

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Comments, Critiques, Questions, Complaints, Compliments?

[tmthforu94]

Sehr gut!

[Niemeyerite]

Go, Goldwater! (I can't believe I am saying this)

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

When will the Clintons be making their appearance? We're in the late 70s right now, right?

Or I guess I should ask, WILL the Clintons make an appearance?

By now, you should have your answer.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The (official) 1992 United States Presidential Election Pics! (part one)

The 1992 Democratic Ticket

President Barry Goldwater Jr. shaking hands with opponent Senate Majority Whip Jack Kemp

Former President Ronald Reagan with former Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater. Both of which were the political proteges of the two Presidential front-runners: Barry Goldwater Jr. and Jack Kemp

Former President Ronald Reagan with Democratic nominee Jack Kemp

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The 1992 Presidential Election Part Two

In the debates and the campaign, Baker was largely marginalized and consistently polled at third. However, President Goldwater and Senator Kemp, though highly respectful of each other, were the real candidates to watch, as they Baker and each other to shreds in the most cordial of ways. Kemp attacked Goldwater and Baker because of their views on abortion, and gianed significant traction in the South and parts of the West for that, while Goldwater attacked Kemp and Baker for being supportive of nation-building in Palestine.

On election night, it owuld be a nail-biter...

Kemp/Gore: 35.7%
Goldwater/Paul: 35.1%
Baker/Chaffee: 28.7%

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Comments, Questions, Critiques, Complaints, Compliments?

[feeblepizza]

President Kemp ftw

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

President Kemp ftw

Finally! A comment! However, it seems that these days, feeblepizza, you're the only poster acknowledging my existence, or at least the person that does it most frequently.
I have a couple of questions for you:

1) Why so you change your avatar and your name so much?

2) What does "ftw" mean?

[feeblepizza]

President Kemp ftw

Finally! A comment! However, it seems that these days, feeblepizza, you're the only poster acknowledging my existence, or at least the person that does it most frequently.
I have a couple of questions for you:

1) Why so you change your avatar and your name so much?

2) What does "ftw" mean?

1. I change my avatar and my name to suit the news (mostly it's because of a candidate I support or some politician who died or something). Other times, it's for fun and because I have nothing else to do. If you must know, the Independent-Indiana icon is the authentic one.

2. For the win

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

I'm just letting you know that I'm still reading this (and enjoying it very much) even though I haven't posted in here in a while.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

List of the Presidents of the United States of America (1961-1993)

35. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Gerald Ford (R-MI) Jan20, 1961-Jan20, 1969
36. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Ronald Reagan (D-CA) Jan20, 1961-May1, 1971
37. Ronald W Reagan (D-CA)/Henry Jackson (D-WA) May1, 1971-Jan20, 1977
38. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Robert Kennedy (D-NY) Jan 20, 1977-Jan20-1981
39. George HW Bush (R-TX)/Robert Finch (R-CA) Jan 20, 1981-Jan 20, 1989
40. Barry M Goldwater Jr. (L-CA)/Ron Paul (L-TX) Jan 20, 1989-Jan 20, 1993
41. Jack Kemp (D-NY)/Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) Jan 20, 1993-?

Note: I don not color Goldwater yellow, because I know it's impossible to read.

[Niemeyerite]

Jack Kemp, the democrat, is now president?! =((((((((((((((((((((((((

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The First Term of Jack F Kemp Part One

Vice-President: Albert Gore Jr.
Secretary of State: Robert F Kennedy
Secretary of the Treasury: Charles Laffer
Secretary of Defense: Colin Powell
Attorney General: John F Kennedy Jr.
Secretary of Education: Elizabeth Dole
Ambassador to the United Nations: Daniel Patrick Moynihan

In President Barry Goldwater Jr's farewell address, he acknowledged his loss at the hands of the system he had worked to create, and most of all, he called for Libertarianism and Conservatism to retake the Whitehouse within eight years.

Merely because we won one election four years ago does not mean we are permanently wedged permanently into the American political power structure. Merely because we lost one election only weeks ago does not mean we are defeated forever. We will still have to work, in every campaign, to best the two other parties, and, hopefully, within eight years, the Libertarian movement will return true Conservatism to the Whitehouse once again.

On January 20th, 1993, New York Senator Jack Kemp took the Oath of Offics and became the 41st President of the United States. He had won the office campaigning against the Goldwater Administration because of only slight economic improvement, its position on abortion, and having a more aggressive foreign policy. Much of his victory was the result of discontentment with the Golwater Administration by rural western voters who disagreed with him on abortion. Many people criticized Kemp because they believed that he had only won the office of the Presidency by appealing to "Evangelical Superstition". However, that didn't change the fact that Kemp was President.

In his address before the nation upon being inaugurated, he said:

Over the next four years, we will continue the example set by Presidents Kennedy, Reagan, and Jackson. We will continue to allow more freedom in the free market. We will continue to champion the middle and the workign class. And we will continue to work toward a solution to poverty, not through expensive social programs that only decrease our freedom and our income, but with real, common sense solutions which utilize free market forces.

For the most part, President Kemp's economic policy was a continuation of Goldwater's. However, Kemp did give more poser to the department of education, which was under the close watch of Education Secretary Elizabeth Dole, who was the wife of Senate Minority Whip Robert Dole and a Republican. Bob Dole was at that point the front-runner for the Republican nomination.

Kemp's first passed bill was the Efficiency in Education Act of 1993, which would give, for the next four years, Elizabeth Dole the power to audit all state-run schools, especially inner-city schools, to look for waste and dead-end projects. Many Libertarians plus some Democrats and Republicans protested because it gave the Federal Government undue access to schools which were run by the state, however, Kemp replied:

This bill only gives temporary powers to the Department of Education. By 1997, the job will be done, and authority seded back to the schools. As for the complaints about having the states handle this, we have seen, in states such as my very own New York, and in Michigan, and in California, state governments that are unwilling to handle their education problems. We can not fix that, however, we can show them the problems, and set guidelines that the states must follow so that certain education problems such as inefficiency become smaller in the future. I, of course, encourage all state governments to take an active role in solving their education problems, and hope that all fifty states do so.

More to Come...