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« on: September 20, 2010, 10:29:43 PM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d6163984-1a7f-4902-b4d3-f003d08c7276

It's refreshing to see a SUSA poll where Black voters actually seem reasonably in line with their actual voting record.  The partisan breakdown might be a little much however, with 57% of Likely voters being Republican.
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2010, 11:04:03 PM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d6163984-1a7f-4902-b4d3-f003d08c7276

It's refreshing to see a SUSA poll where Black voters actually seem reasonably in line with their actual voting record.  The partisan breakdown might be a little much however, with 57% of Likely voters being Republican.

you mean blacks will vote "**" ?
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2010, 08:24:39 AM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d6163984-1a7f-4902-b4d3-f003d08c7276

It's refreshing to see a SUSA poll where Black voters actually seem reasonably in line with their actual voting record.  The partisan breakdown might be a little much however, with 57% of Likely voters being Republican.

It seems that you didn't listen when we told you to stop looking at crosstabs.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2010, 10:06:32 AM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d6163984-1a7f-4902-b4d3-f003d08c7276

It's refreshing to see a SUSA poll where Black voters actually seem reasonably in line with their actual voting record.  The partisan breakdown might be a little much however, with 57% of Likely voters being Republican.

It seems that you didn't listen when we told you to stop looking at crosstabs.

Why?? I think looking crosstabs is positive for people who want to know everything about the poll. Imagine, if Kirk is leading gianoulias by 5% in a poll, but is carrying 40%of the black vote, should I think kirk is leading??
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2010, 10:33:47 AM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d6163984-1a7f-4902-b4d3-f003d08c7276

It's refreshing to see a SUSA poll where Black voters actually seem reasonably in line with their actual voting record.  The partisan breakdown might be a little much however, with 57% of Likely voters being Republican.

It seems that you didn't listen when we told you to stop looking at crosstabs.

Why?? I think looking crosstabs is positive for people who want to know everything about the poll. Imagine, if Kirk is leading gianoulias by 5% in a poll, but is carrying 40%of the black vote, should I think kirk is leading??

Because categories like "black voters", "18-29" which are a tiny part of the sample have a gigantic margin of error and provide no serious statistical information. Only subsamples that involve the whole sample or something or a good chunk of it are useful.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 05:09:55 PM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d6163984-1a7f-4902-b4d3-f003d08c7276

It's refreshing to see a SUSA poll where Black voters actually seem reasonably in line with their actual voting record.  The partisan breakdown might be a little much however, with 57% of Likely voters being Republican.

It seems that you didn't listen when we told you to stop looking at crosstabs.

Why?? I think looking crosstabs is positive for people who want to know everything about the poll. Imagine, if Kirk is leading gianoulias by 5% in a poll, but is carrying 40%of the black vote, should I think kirk is leading??

Because categories like "black voters", "18-29" which are a tiny part of the sample have a gigantic margin of error and provide no serious statistical information. Only subsamples that involve the whole sample or something or a good chunk of it are useful.

I agree. But, SUSA polls always show republicans crushing democrats with young people and picking up 20-30% of afroamericans.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 05:19:41 PM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d6163984-1a7f-4902-b4d3-f003d08c7276

It's refreshing to see a SUSA poll where Black voters actually seem reasonably in line with their actual voting record.  The partisan breakdown might be a little much however, with 57% of Likely voters being Republican.

It seems that you didn't listen when we told you to stop looking at crosstabs.

Why?? I think looking crosstabs is positive for people who want to know everything about the poll. Imagine, if Kirk is leading gianoulias by 5% in a poll, but is carrying 40%of the black vote, should I think kirk is leading??

Because categories like "black voters", "18-29" which are a tiny part of the sample have a gigantic margin of error and provide no serious statistical information. Only subsamples that involve the whole sample or something or a good chunk of it are useful.

I agree. But, SUSA polls always show republicans crushing democrats with young people and picking up 20-30% of afroamericans.

Thanks for giving me an example of a reason why we should ignore these types of subsamples.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2010, 06:02:08 PM »

Thanks for giving me an example of a reason why we should ignore these types of subsamples.

Um, are you questioning the poll itself or the idea of using the Crosstabs?  Because in the dozen or so polls I've seen, I'm willing to bet there's enough 18-34 yr-olds to reduce the margin of error to something worth looking at.

And just for the record, SUSA isn't the only pollster to have the Republicans winning the youth vote.
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