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« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2010, 10:51:27 AM »

Just a few points.
1) People are going to tell you how to title your posts? Just goes to show how progressives want to emulate Obama and the Democrats who don't believe in our basic freedoms.
Freedom to eat what we want, choose our health care,companies to do business the way they want. It's all about bullying and intimidation, that's how 3rd world dictators keep the peons in line. It's all about threats when they don't get their way.
2) Are the Republicans thinking of finding some way to get O'Donnell off the ticket? With what Karl Rove said, you wonder if there is a strategy to disqualify her. It doesn't make sense if she could be the tying or majority Senate seat. You have to back her even if you hate her, and say this stuff in private, or after the election. This doesn't add up.
3) The over reaction to this story by all the liberal media sites, shows just how desperate they are this year. They jump on the first early poll hoping all their influence would nip this in the bud, and influence voters to be scared of her. The same tactic they used with Sarah Palin, who is now the most influential politician in the country on the positive side. Yet they haven't learned that voters think the media is in bag for Democrats, and lean against almost every candidate they promote. They say that O'Donnell is sure to lose because of her past, yet no one knows zilch about Chris Coons, and if has past is any less interesting then hers.
 
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« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2010, 10:55:36 AM »

Welcome Hot! Another truth messenger is always welcome here.
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« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2010, 10:59:18 AM »

Just a few points.
1) People are going to tell you how to title your posts? Just goes to show how progressives want to emulate Obama and the Democrats who don't believe in our basic freedoms.
Freedom to eat what we want, choose our health care,companies to do business the way they want. It's all about bullying and intimidation, that's how 3rd world dictators keep the peons in line. It's all about threats when they don't get their way.

LOL, okay. Tone down the rhetoric, dude, this is not that kind of site.

2) Are the Republicans thinking of finding some way to get O'Donnell off the ticket? With what Karl Rove said, you wonder if there is a strategy to disqualify her. It doesn't make sense if she could be the tying or majority Senate seat. You have to back her even if you hate her, and say this stuff in private, or after the election. This doesn't add up.

Republicans "have" to, yes, so they're going through the motions. They also believe -- and with good reason! -- that O'Donnell stands no chance at winning this seat. They know her to be a fraud, and are unwilling to do anything but the bare minimum for her. As I saw someone tweet earlier, "If you're thinking of giving money to O'Donnell, stop, take a breath, and give it to Angle or Buck instead." Wise words. Unlike O'Donnell, they can win, and will need money to do so.

3) The over reaction to this story by all the liberal media sites, shows just how desperate they are this year. They jump on the first early poll hoping all their influence would nip this in the bud, and influence voters to be scared of her. The same tactic they used with Sarah Palin, who is now the most influential politician in the country on the positive side. Yet they haven't learned that voters think the media is in bag for Democrats, and lean against almost every candidate they promote. They say that O'Donnell is sure to lose because of her past, yet no one knows zilch about Chris Coons, and if has past is any less interesting then hers.

Chris Coons is an elected official. Elected officials, even for smaller offices, are typically vetted to some degree.
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« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2010, 11:17:41 AM »

I wouldn't worry about Coons having the money he needs for the general election. Give it a few big fundraisers. O'Donnell will have the tea party money(which is obviously significant), but I don't see any ad of hers being able to get 50.1% of Delaware voters to vote for her.

This race will be a bit closer than people think though. Coons will win with 53 or 54% of the vote though.
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« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2010, 11:24:32 AM »

Just a few points.
1) People are going to tell you how to title your posts? Just goes to show how progressives want to emulate Obama and the Democrats who don't believe in our basic freedoms.
Freedom to eat what we want, choose our health care,companies to do business the way they want. It's all about bullying and intimidation, that's how 3rd world dictators keep the peons in line. It's all about threats when they don't get their way.

LOL, okay. Tone down the rhetoric, dude, this is not that kind of site.

True, only left wing hackery like that is allowed.
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« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2010, 01:36:02 PM »

Mr. Moderate makes a great point. Suddenly the Tea Party has a point to make since the establishment blatantly hold her to F off. They will flood her with as much money as she wants and needs. This is a statement race for them. They'll do all they can to push her to victory.
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« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2010, 03:33:35 PM »

Bear in mind that O'Donnell's campaign funds will be partially diverted for personal expenses.
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« Reply #57 on: September 16, 2010, 03:43:59 PM »

What the hell is wrong with people's reasoning skills?

Most folks were required to endure public education........Huh
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« Reply #58 on: September 16, 2010, 03:46:20 PM »

This race could get very interesting if Castle decides to endorse O'Donnell, which who knows? He may do that. But I wouldn't consider her chances to be too great if Castle doesn't endorse and especially if he endorses Coons.
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« Reply #59 on: September 16, 2010, 04:15:41 PM »

This race could get very interesting if Castle decides to endorse O'Donnell, which who knows? He may do that. But I wouldn't consider her chances to be too great if Castle doesn't endorse and especially if he endorses Coons.

That has already been ruled out.....
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« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2010, 05:04:07 PM »
« Edited: September 16, 2010, 05:08:10 PM by Lunar »

Remember folks, Beet was sure, ignoring all polls and logic, that underfunded Lynch would win in that special election at the end of 2009, and he ended up losing to Deutsch by a 30% margin.  I'm not saying this to be a jerk, but rather how this is getting a bit silly.

yes, upsets are always possible, hell, Andrew Cuomo could very well lose to Carl Paladino in NY, but when it becomes predictable in a systemic way (Democrat X will lose, no matter how terrible the GOP candidate is and how Democratic the district is!), it becomes cliche and silly Sad

It's entirely reasonable to predict a tangible set of Democrats whom we presume to be safe will end up losing, and Coons could be part of that, but candidate quality, the district, and other factors need to be taken into account for the analysis, not just hysteria.  The polling in this race speaks for itself, PPP, who correctly polled the O'Donnell surge, show that in the general election electorate, almost 50% of Republicans view O'Donnell as unfit for public office.
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« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2010, 05:09:32 PM »

There are a lot of people who are going to want to stick it to the establishment, and will thus vote for people they wouldn't otherwise vote for.
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« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2010, 05:11:14 PM »

Mr. Moderate makes a great point. Suddenly the Tea Party has a point to make since the establishment blatantly hold her to F off. They will flood her with as much money as she wants and needs. This is a statement race for them. They'll do all they can to push her to victory.

Only Christine can save us from the Mouse People!

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09/christine_odonnell_will_save_u.html

Seriously, all the Tea Party money in the world can't win her more than 35% of the vote in Delaware. Money only goes so far in fixing crazy, and it can't fix crazy that's in the public eye.
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« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2010, 05:42:29 PM »

There are a lot of people who are going to want to stick it to the establishment, and will thus vote for people they wouldn't otherwise vote for.

Why are these people lying to pollsters and saying a) they hate that candidate and b) aren't voting for her?
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« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2010, 05:44:34 PM »

Just a few points.
1) People are going to tell you how to title your posts? Just goes to show how progressives want to emulate Obama and the Democrats who don't believe in our basic freedoms.
Freedom to eat what we want, choose our health care,companies to do business the way they want. It's all about bullying and intimidation, that's how 3rd world dictators keep the peons in line. It's all about threats when they don't get their way.

LOL, okay. Tone down the rhetoric, dude, this is not that kind of site.

True, only left wing hackery like that is allowed.

Yep, I don't know what I was thinking to defend freedom of speech.
Everyone can read the first few replies to Beet who started this thread to see what I was referring to.
And I stand by what I think about Obama, his Czars and many of the Dems.
It's a dangerous road to single out certain businesses to "set an example".
We know how banks were intimidated into giving mortgages to individuals that couldn't afford them, and where that led. Now we hear health care companies are being warned not to blame Obama care for their rising costs. I can say more but it's not related to this thread.
But I hope everyone feels free to post what they want, and title it the way they want just as long as it follows the site rules.
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« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2010, 07:02:08 PM »

O'Donnell winning the primary has concerned me enough into finally starting an account on this forum, I can't see her winning in November under any scenario. Other than that its great to finally be a member on this site and im looking forward to it.
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« Reply #66 on: September 16, 2010, 07:09:24 PM »
« Edited: September 16, 2010, 07:13:18 PM by Nutmeg »

We know how banks were intimidated into giving mortgages to individuals that couldn't afford them, and where that led.

Yes, during the Clinton and Bush years, and it was hardly through intimidation.  The banks sought a quick buck, and that backfired on the entire economy.  Oops!
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« Reply #67 on: September 16, 2010, 07:09:46 PM »

O'Donnell winning the primary has concerned me enough into finally starting an account on this forum, I can't see her winning in November under any scenario. Other than that its great to finally be a member on this site and im looking forward to it.

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« Reply #68 on: September 16, 2010, 07:10:10 PM »

There are a lot of people who are going to want to stick it to the establishment, and will thus vote for people they wouldn't otherwise vote for.

Why are these people lying to pollsters and saying a) they hate that candidate and b) aren't voting for her?

Turn out
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« Reply #69 on: September 16, 2010, 07:15:40 PM »

There are a lot of people who are going to want to stick it to the establishment, and will thus vote for people they wouldn't otherwise vote for.

Why are these people lying to pollsters and saying a) they hate that candidate and b) aren't voting for her?

Turn out

Do you understand that these polls already take a massive Republican turnout into account?

The type of turnout you're talking about only happens in Atlas Fantasy Timelines.
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« Reply #70 on: September 16, 2010, 07:23:24 PM »

O'Donnell winning the primary has concerned me enough into finally starting an account on this forum, I can't see her winning in November under any scenario. Other than that its great to finally be a member on this site and im looking forward to it.

     Welcome to the forum!
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« Reply #71 on: September 16, 2010, 07:27:25 PM »

We know how banks were intimidated into giving mortgages to individuals that couldn't afford them, and where that led.

Yes, during the Clinton and Bush years, and it was hardly through intimidation.  The banks sought a quick buck, and that backfired on the entire economy.  Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
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« Reply #72 on: September 16, 2010, 07:34:02 PM »

We know how banks were intimidated into giving mortgages to individuals that couldn't afford them, and where that led.
Yes, during the Clinton and Bush years, and it was hardly through intimidation.  The banks sought a quick buck, and that backfired on the entire economy.  Oops!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

But redlining clearly was a problem.  Different issue to ban certain kinds of categorical discrimination, and not just financial means, than banks issuing loans to anyone who would walk through the door from the 1990s until about 2 years ago.
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« Reply #73 on: September 16, 2010, 07:37:23 PM »
« Edited: September 16, 2010, 07:44:12 PM by memphis »

We know how banks were intimidated into giving mortgages to individuals that couldn't afford them, and where that led.

Yes, during the Clinton and Bush years, and it was hardly through intimidation.  The banks sought a quick buck, and that backfired on the entire economy.  Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
From your link: "Congress passed the Act in 1977." It took 33 years to crash the market? My mom paid off her post CRA 30 year mortgage in full before the crash. You may as well say the 1994 election was a reaction to the Civil Rights Movement.
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« Reply #74 on: September 16, 2010, 07:38:01 PM »

Exactly, the banks were giving loans to people that they knew weren't good risks. It's hard to see how the government forces banks to make poor business decisions.
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