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« on: September 13, 2010, 08:09:56 PM »
« edited: October 17, 2010, 07:11:50 PM by The Demon's Manifestation »

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2010, 08:48:18 PM »

I like this very very much. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2010, 05:09:28 AM »

SOIA:

Can I take a moment to remind Senators that £30bn for road repair is a fairly modest sum. The Federal Highway Administration estimated in 2005 that it needed $375 billion to fund repair and improvement projects. Research conducted in 2007 estimated that 33% of the nation's major roads are in “poor or mediocre condition.” 36% of major urban highways are congested and 26% percent of bridges are “structurally deficient or functionally obsolete.”

I am not, by pointing this out suggesting that we 'up' the figure suggested by the Senator to match this 5yr old assessment. However if funds are to be provided it is vital that they are targeted to where they can be best spent. We cannot afford a major road expansion programme and for environmental reasons I would stand against it. However road repair is vital for the economy and can provide much needed employment.

(N.B: Figures are taken from US sources)
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2010, 11:36:51 AM »
« Edited: September 17, 2010, 08:41:40 AM by Badger »

SOIA:

Can I take a moment to remind Senators that £30bn for road repair is a fairly modest sum.

SIR!! May I demand you remove that errant "pound" symbol at once! What next? Would you have us eating stake and kidney pies (or worse "haggis" Tongue)? Checking the "colour" of items before we take a "lift" partially composed of "Al-lew-MIN-ee-um"?

Zounds sir! There shall be no eating of bangers and mash, toad in the hole, let alone "spotted dick" in THIS Senate's cafeteria.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2010, 03:03:43 PM »

Any objection to opening a final vote here?
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2010, 10:05:10 AM »

I just want to say that I strongly support this. After just coming home traveling I-95 Most of the way from North Carolina back to Connecticut I've found that much of the highway an really use some work, especially when it comes to the Northeast area.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2010, 12:08:23 AM »

I just want to say that I strongly support this. After just coming home traveling I-95 Most of the way from North Carolina back to Connecticut I've found that much of the highway an really use some work, especially when it comes to the Northeast area.

This is one of the reasons why I wrote it. Tongue

I go out of my way to avoid 95 when I travel.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2010, 06:25:43 AM »

You know I don't know why I bother Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2010, 09:50:25 PM »


Sorry, it's too common sense a suggestion to oppose, and thus move much passion in favor.

I'm ready to support it whenever Yank calls a vote.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2010, 04:53:41 PM »

Does anyone want to amend it to increase the money spent on road repairs? Or simply specify certain areas that need it the most? I'm attempting to balance this spending without hurting our  budget (pretend with me) too much.
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2010, 07:18:37 PM »

Considering Duke just asked tihs question, I will give it till tomorrow and if nothing is said, a vote will definately be opened on the matter.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 07:33:32 PM »

Do we maybe want to allocate a certain amount of money to the regions to use on their roads? It would seem that they would know best which roads are in greatest need of repair.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2010, 09:17:51 PM »

Do we maybe want to allocate a certain amount of money to the regions to use on their roads? It would seem that they would know best which roads are in greatest need of repair.

That would make sense, but how do we figure out what amount goes to what region? Would the SE love me more if I sweetened the deal for them? Tongue

We could just allocate money to each governor and allow them to use the funds on the roads they think need it.
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 10:24:08 PM »

Do we maybe want to allocate a certain amount of money to the regions to use on their roads? It would seem that they would know best which roads are in greatest need of repair.

That would make sense, but how do we figure out what amount goes to what region? Would the SE love me more if I sweetened the deal for them? Tongue

We could just allocate money to each governor and allow them to use the funds on the roads they think need it.

Well at least regions that have legislatures might enjoy being able to allocate the funds appropriately. Just a thought.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2010, 10:29:22 PM »

Do we maybe want to allocate a certain amount of money to the regions to use on their roads? It would seem that they would know best which roads are in greatest need of repair.

That would make sense, but how do we figure out what amount goes to what region? Would the SE love me more if I sweetened the deal for them? Tongue

We could just allocate money to each governor and allow them to use the funds on the roads they think need it.

Well at least regions that have legislatures might enjoy being able to allocate the funds appropriately. Just a thought.

It's a good one, and I agree with you, but now we must decide what to give each region. Should it be a flat number or should it depend on the population?
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2010, 10:48:00 PM »

Do we maybe want to allocate a certain amount of money to the regions to use on their roads? It would seem that they would know best which roads are in greatest need of repair.

That would make sense, but how do we figure out what amount goes to what region? Would the SE love me more if I sweetened the deal for them? Tongue

We could just allocate money to each governor and allow them to use the funds on the roads they think need it.

Well at least regions that have legislatures might enjoy being able to allocate the funds appropriately. Just a thought.

It's a good one, and I agree with you, but now we must decide what to give each region. Should it be a flat number or should it depend on the population?

Well, practically speaking, population is probably the only indicator we can go by. Ideally, it would be awarded based on the various regions' roads....but we have no real objective way of measuring how the roads are by region....right?
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2010, 10:53:30 PM »

You probably won't have a new GM in time to answer this, but hopefully there will be one soon to work on future initiatives with the Senate.
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2010, 07:37:57 AM »

Do we maybe want to allocate a certain amount of money to the regions to use on their roads? It would seem that they would know best which roads are in greatest need of repair.

That would make sense, but how do we figure out what amount goes to what region? Would the SE love me more if I sweetened the deal for them? Tongue

We could just allocate money to each governor and allow them to use the funds on the roads they think need it.

Well at least regions that have legislatures might enjoy being able to allocate the funds appropriately. Just a thought.

It's a good one, and I agree with you, but now we must decide what to give each region. Should it be a flat number or should it depend on the population?

Well, practically speaking, population is probably the only indicator we can go by. Ideally, it would be awarded based on the various regions' roads....but we have no real objective way of measuring how the roads are by region....right?

We could go by a rough ratio of regional geographic size (representing miles of roads) and population (representing the density of highway systems and traffic causing wear and tear to the roads). Frick all if I know how to calculate that, though it seems to me the various regional governors and L-G's really should have a strong interest in this legislation and may want to provide their "best estimates" for us if we go this route (hint, HINT).

Alternatively, we could reasonably just punt this to the Atlasian DOT to administer the monies as deemed fit.
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2010, 11:20:14 AM »

Do we maybe want to allocate a certain amount of money to the regions to use on their roads? It would seem that they would know best which roads are in greatest need of repair.

That would make sense, but how do we figure out what amount goes to what region? Would the SE love me more if I sweetened the deal for them? Tongue

We could just allocate money to each governor and allow them to use the funds on the roads they think need it.

Well at least regions that have legislatures might enjoy being able to allocate the funds appropriately. Just a thought.

It's a good one, and I agree with you, but now we must decide what to give each region. Should it be a flat number or should it depend on the population?

Well, practically speaking, population is probably the only indicator we can go by. Ideally, it would be awarded based on the various regions' roads....but we have no real objective way of measuring how the roads are by region....right?

We could go by a rough ratio of regional geographic size (representing miles of roads) and population (representing the density of highway systems and traffic causing wear and tear to the roads). Frick all if I know how to calculate that, though it seems to me the various regional governors and L-G's really should have a strong interest in this legislation and may want to provide their "best estimates" for us if we go this route (hint, HINT).

Alternatively, we could reasonably just punt this to the Atlasian DOT to administer the monies as deemed fit.

To the Secretary of Internal Affairs, rather. Whatever equivalent we have to the DOT most likely an unnamed sub-department of the DOIA that doesn't technically exist in Atlasian statute.
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2010, 10:13:23 PM »

Do we maybe want to allocate a certain amount of money to the regions to use on their roads? It would seem that they would know best which roads are in greatest need of repair.

That would make sense, but how do we figure out what amount goes to what region? Would the SE love me more if I sweetened the deal for them? Tongue

We could just allocate money to each governor and allow them to use the funds on the roads they think need it.

Well at least regions that have legislatures might enjoy being able to allocate the funds appropriately. Just a thought.

It's a good one, and I agree with you, but now we must decide what to give each region. Should it be a flat number or should it depend on the population?

Well, practically speaking, population is probably the only indicator we can go by. Ideally, it would be awarded based on the various regions' roads....but we have no real objective way of measuring how the roads are by region....right?

We could go by a rough ratio of regional geographic size (representing miles of roads) and population (representing the density of highway systems and traffic causing wear and tear to the roads). Frick all if I know how to calculate that, though it seems to me the various regional governors and L-G's really should have a strong interest in this legislation and may want to provide their "best estimates" for us if we go this route (hint, HINT).

Alternatively, we could reasonably just punt this to the Atlasian DOT to administer the monies as deemed fit.

To the Secretary of Internal Affairs, rather. Whatever equivalent we have to the DOT most likely an unnamed sub-department of the DOIA that doesn't technically exist in Atlasian statute.

Truye Dat.
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2010, 11:23:13 PM »

Senators, a final vote is now open on this bill, please vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2010, 06:49:07 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2010, 08:28:13 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2010, 09:43:19 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2010, 10:29:09 PM »

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