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« on: September 12, 2010, 04:36:54 AM »

In January 1944, Roosevelt outlined to Congress what might've been something like a post-war third New Deal--A constitutional revolution and a re-evaluation of the rights of the People. His idea was called the Second Bill of Rights. Here is the Text:

"It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people—whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth—is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.

This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.

As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.”[2] People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:


The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

The right to a good education.


All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world."

Now, what do you guys think of FDR's ideas set forth here, in general? How could they have been realistically achieved, both then and now?

Also--How do you think FDR would've went about implementing this idea had he lived?
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 01:48:39 PM »

They are a set of economic concept, that certainly should be the aspiration of any society, but that present problems when expressed as positive rights.  The main one is that these rights as expressed are awfully vague and open-ended.  For example, what exactly is "adequate medical care"?  An insurance plan or a government benefit that provided health care that would be considered top notch in 1944 would be seen as woefully inadequate by today's standard of care.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2010, 01:20:43 PM »


The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
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HA!, no.
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How would that even be possible?  What if he is a sh**tty farmer farming a stupid product that nobody wants?
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huh...sure?
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Just one right?  Do we give them another after they destroy the first?
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That is already here right?
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Got that one too.
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Yep, got that one too.  Well,if the public schools didn't suck so much in so many places.  Clearly throwing the bumbs out that run the schools now and starting over fresh couldn't hurt.
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