NY GOP Gubernatorial Primary

[Progressive]

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/09/11/tight_gop_race_for_new_york_governor.html

43% Lazio
42% Paladino

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Just saying I kind of called this in a previous thread. Lazio is not a shoe-in in this primary. Let's discuss.

[Psychic Octopus]

While obviously Cuomo will win by double digits, how does Paladino do compared with Lazio? Better, worse, or the same?

[xavier110]

While obviously Cuomo will win by double digits, how does Paladino do compared with Lazio? Better, worse, or the same?

At this point, the same...but they're both in the high twenties in current polling. LOL. Paladino will play stronger upstate; Lazio could keep it somewhat close in Long Island.

Paladino, if he were to win, would split the GOP/Conservative lines (Lazio tops the Conservative ticket). I'd like to see a Cuomo/Paladino/Lazio map.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Paladino, if he were to win, would split the GOP/Conservative lines (Lazio tops the Conservative ticket). I'd like to see a Cuomo/Paladino/Lazio map.

Wouldn't that be all red?

[xavier110]

Paladino, if he were to win, would split the GOP/Conservative lines (Lazio tops the Conservative ticket). I'd like to see a Cuomo/Paladino/Lazio map.

Wouldn't that be all red?

Yes. Cuomo would win every county, but I'd like to see how Paladino/Lazio fare. Would it be similar to Tuesday's primary results? Would there be any non-NYC counties where the GOP nominee can't break the double digits?

[Eraserhead]

Hilarious. I've got my fingers crossed for Paladino.

[redcommander]

Let this be a lesson to the Republican party leadership in the state to pursue other candidates besides two big names (Giuliani and Pataki) for your Governor and Senate seats. There were plenty of potential people they could have gotten who would have made the Gillibrand and Cuomo races competitive, but instead the brilliant Ed Cox decided that it had to be someone who was well known by the state already. Well when you put your eggs in one basket Mr. Cox, you end up getting a bunch of no names that show very inclination of being successful in getting themselves well known to New York voters on what could possibly be one of the worst statewide tickets in New York history.  I will give Lazio the edge in being electable because of Paladino's racism and sexism, but even then, Lazio would be lucky enough to reach 40% in the GE even in this current environment.

I didn't hear much seriousness about getting one of these people to run, all of whom could have made competitive races:

James Walsh
Susan Molinari
John McHugh (Convinced him before accepting an appointment in Obama's administration)
Greg Edwards
Kathleen Jimino
Andrew Lanza
Catherine Young
Maggie Brooks
Brian Kolb

[Smash255]

Let this be a lesson to the Republican party leadership in the state to pursue other candidates besides two big names (Giuliani and Pataki) for your Governor and Senate seats. There were plenty of potential people they could have gotten who would have made the Gillibrand and Cuomo races competitive, but instead the brilliant Ed Cox decided that it had to be someone who was well known by the state already. Well when you put your eggs in one basket Mr. Cox, you end up getting a bunch of no names that show very inclination of being successful in getting themselves well known to New York voters on what could possibly be one of the worst statewide tickets in New York history.  I will give Lazio the edge in electable because of Paladino's racism and sexism, but even then, Lazio would be lucky enough to reach 40% in the GE even in this current environment.

I didn't hear much seriousness about getting one of these people to run, all of whom could have made competitive races:

James Walsh
Susan Molinari
John McHugh (Convinced him before accepting an appointment in Obama's administration)
Greg Edwards
Kathleen Jimino
Andrew Lanza
Catherine Young
Maggie Brooks
Brian Kolb

NONE of them would have made competitive races.....

[Lunar]

Let this be a lesson to the Republican party leadership in the state to pursue other candidates besides two big names (Giuliani and Pataki) for your Governor and Senate seats. There were plenty of potential people they could have gotten who would have made the Gillibrand and Cuomo races competitive, but instead the brilliant Ed Cox decided that it had to be someone who was well known by the state already. Well when you put your eggs in one basket Mr. Cox, you end up getting a bunch of no names that show very inclination of being successful in getting themselves well known to New York voters on what could possibly be one of the worst statewide tickets in New York history.  I will give Lazio the edge in electable because of Paladino's racism and sexism, but even then, Lazio would be lucky enough to reach 40% in the GE even in this current environment.

Dude, if you think Cox was planning for Lazio to be the GOP nominee, you're smoking higher quality crack than I am

[Eraserhead]

Let this be a lesson to the Republican party leadership in the state to pursue other candidates besides two big names (Giuliani and Pataki) for your Governor and Senate seats. There were plenty of potential people they could have gotten who would have made the Gillibrand and Cuomo races competitive, but instead the brilliant Ed Cox decided that it had to be someone who was well known by the state already. Well when you put your eggs in one basket Mr. Cox, you end up getting a bunch of no names that show very inclination of being successful in getting themselves well known to New York voters on what could possibly be one of the worst statewide tickets in New York history.  I will give Lazio the edge in electable because of Paladino's racism and sexism, but even then, Lazio would be lucky enough to reach 40% in the GE even in this current environment.

Dude, if you think Cox was planning for Lazio to be the GOP nominee, you're smoking higher quality crack than I am

Poor Lunar... he can't afford the good sh*t.

[CatoMinor]

Paladino, if he were to win, would split the GOP/Conservative lines (Lazio tops the Conservative ticket). I'd like to see a Cuomo/Paladino/Lazio map.

Think it would look close to 1990?

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Paladino, if he were to win, would split the GOP/Conservative lines (Lazio tops the Conservative ticket). I'd like to see a Cuomo/Paladino/Lazio map.

Think it would look close to 1990?

Andrew Cuomo is going to end up with a fair bit more than 53% of the vote, so it will probably only be a few counties that he doesn't win; it'll even fewer if the Republicans are split between two candidates.

[Eraserhead]

Cuomo's map probably won't be all that different from Spitzer's honestly.

[redcommander]

Let this be a lesson to the Republican party leadership in the state to pursue other candidates besides two big names (Giuliani and Pataki) for your Governor and Senate seats. There were plenty of potential people they could have gotten who would have made the Gillibrand and Cuomo races competitive, but instead the brilliant Ed Cox decided that it had to be someone who was well known by the state already. Well when you put your eggs in one basket Mr. Cox, you end up getting a bunch of no names that show very inclination of being successful in getting themselves well known to New York voters on what could possibly be one of the worst statewide tickets in New York history.  I will give Lazio the edge in electable because of Paladino's racism and sexism, but even then, Lazio would be lucky enough to reach 40% in the GE even in this current environment.

Dude, if you think Cox was planning for Lazio to be the GOP nominee, you're smoking higher quality crack than I am

No I meant he was certain that Giuliani and Pataki would run, and when they didn't he had a major fail as party leader.

[redcommander]

Let this be a lesson to the Republican party leadership in the state to pursue other candidates besides two big names (Giuliani and Pataki) for your Governor and Senate seats. There were plenty of potential people they could have gotten who would have made the Gillibrand and Cuomo races competitive, but instead the brilliant Ed Cox decided that it had to be someone who was well known by the state already. Well when you put your eggs in one basket Mr. Cox, you end up getting a bunch of no names that show very inclination of being successful in getting themselves well known to New York voters on what could possibly be one of the worst statewide tickets in New York history.  I will give Lazio the edge in electable because of Paladino's racism and sexism, but even then, Lazio would be lucky enough to reach 40% in the GE even in this current environment.

I didn't hear much seriousness about getting one of these people to run, all of whom could have made competitive races:

James Walsh
Susan Molinari
John McHugh (Convinced him before accepting an appointment in Obama's administration)
Greg Edwards
Kathleen Jimino
Andrew Lanza
Catherine Young
Maggie Brooks
Brian Kolb

NONE of them would have made competitive races.....

What makes you assume that?

[xavier110]

Let this be a lesson to the Republican party leadership in the state to pursue other candidates besides two big names (Giuliani and Pataki) for your Governor and Senate seats. There were plenty of potential people they could have gotten who would have made the Gillibrand and Cuomo races competitive, but instead the brilliant Ed Cox decided that it had to be someone who was well known by the state already. Well when you put your eggs in one basket Mr. Cox, you end up getting a bunch of no names that show very inclination of being successful in getting themselves well known to New York voters on what could possibly be one of the worst statewide tickets in New York history.  I will give Lazio the edge in electable because of Paladino's racism and sexism, but even then, Lazio would be lucky enough to reach 40% in the GE even in this current environment.

I didn't hear much seriousness about getting one of these people to run, all of whom could have made competitive races:

James Walsh
Susan Molinari
John McHugh (Convinced him before accepting an appointment in Obama's administration)
Greg Edwards
Kathleen Jimino
Andrew Lanza
Catherine Young
Maggie Brooks
Brian Kolb

NONE of them would have made competitive races.....

What makes you assume that?

...they're...also no names. At least Lazio is an established, somewhat well-known politician. The others are non-entities. They are no different from the Blakemans and the Malpasses. Anyone the GOP puts up who isn't Giuliani or Pataki is a sacrificial lamb.

[Smash255]

Let this be a lesson to the Republican party leadership in the state to pursue other candidates besides two big names (Giuliani and Pataki) for your Governor and Senate seats. There were plenty of potential people they could have gotten who would have made the Gillibrand and Cuomo races competitive, but instead the brilliant Ed Cox decided that it had to be someone who was well known by the state already. Well when you put your eggs in one basket Mr. Cox, you end up getting a bunch of no names that show very inclination of being successful in getting themselves well known to New York voters on what could possibly be one of the worst statewide tickets in New York history.  I will give Lazio the edge in electable because of Paladino's racism and sexism, but even then, Lazio would be lucky enough to reach 40% in the GE even in this current environment.

I didn't hear much seriousness about getting one of these people to run, all of whom could have made competitive races:

James Walsh
Susan Molinari
John McHugh (Convinced him before accepting an appointment in Obama's administration)
Greg Edwards
Kathleen Jimino
Andrew Lanza
Catherine Young
Maggie Brooks
Brian Kolb

NONE of them would have made competitive races.....

What makes you assume that?

As Xavier said they are no names, not to mention this is New York.  The moment Cuomo was in the Governor's race, it was over period.   Perhaps they could have run slightly better against Gillibrand, but not much. 

[redcommander]

Being a no name doesn't make you unelectable though. Obama was basically a no name when he first ran, Pataki was a no name, Brown was a no name. As long as you have the willingness and the work ethic to get your name and positions out there to people you can make a race competitive, or at least more competitive against Cuomo.

[Smash255]

Being a no name doesn't make you unelectable though. Obama was basically a no name when he first ran, Pataki was a no name, Brown was a no name. As long as you have the willingness and the work ethic to get your name and positions out there to people you can make a race competitive, or at least more competitive against Cuomo.

Not if you have an R next to your name in New York.....

[Capitan Zapp Brannigan]

Let this be a lesson to the Republican party leadership in the state to pursue other candidates besides two big names (Giuliani and Pataki) for your Governor and Senate seats. There were plenty of potential people they could have gotten who would have made the Gillibrand and Cuomo races competitive, but instead the brilliant Ed Cox decided that it had to be someone who was well known by the state already. Well when you put your eggs in one basket Mr. Cox, you end up getting a bunch of no names that show very inclination of being successful in getting themselves well known to New York voters on what could possibly be one of the worst statewide tickets in New York history.  I will give Lazio the edge in electable because of Paladino's racism and sexism, but even then, Lazio would be lucky enough to reach 40% in the GE even in this current environment.

I didn't hear much seriousness about getting one of these people to run, all of whom could have made competitive races:

James Walsh
Susan Molinari
John McHugh (Convinced him before accepting an appointment in Obama's administration)
Greg Edwards
Kathleen Jimino
Andrew Lanza
Catherine Young
Maggie Brooks
Brian Kolb

NONE of them would have made competitive races.....

What makes you assume that?

Because Cuomo is the current heir apparent and he was never going to lose.