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« on: August 21, 2010, 03:39:22 PM »

Does anyone seriously support Scotland becoming a separate and independent country?   

If so, could Scotland make it on its' own as a viable nation?

Please discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2010, 03:48:29 PM »

Some people seriously do, yes.

As for viable, no. Once the oil dries up, Scotland would pretty much be poorer than England and wouldn't be able to afford all the nice social services English taxpayers have paid for.

That said, I support a confederated Britain, maybe divided into regions.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 02:53:35 AM »

An Independent Scotland within the European Union and with open borders with England would not by any rational argument be worse off than right now.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 03:00:22 AM »

     An increase in the number of independent countries, in general, seems like a good idea to me. The fact that the United Kingdom is a relatively unitary system makes the prospect all the more attractive in the case of Scotland.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2010, 03:16:56 AM »

     An increase in the number of independent countries, in general, seems like a good idea to me. The fact that the United Kingdom is a relatively unitary system makes the prospect all the more attractive in the case of Scotland.

This is consistent with your support for pro-poverty policies.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2010, 04:25:00 AM »

I myself do support Scotland's right to independence. If they don't wish to be part of the U.K. anymore then they shouldn't have to, but I don't seriously see them breaking ties to England now. Same could be said for Wales.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2010, 05:08:06 AM »

Why not ?
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2010, 07:10:55 AM »

I think the people that live in a region has the right to determin wether they should be indindipendant or not by themselves, and if a large majority of people in Scotland were in favour I'd support that.

Tht being said I don't see anything that'd actually benefit Scotland by leaving the UK, and if I lived there I'd in all liklyhood not be in favour.

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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2010, 07:26:45 AM »

I support the preference of the Scottish people Wink
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2010, 07:40:52 AM »

I support the preference of the Scottish people Wink

Me too. An independent Scotland would probably be viable. Big issue in any independence would be the future of defence assets; there are a number of RAF and RN facilities up there of strategic importance.

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2010, 08:44:31 AM »

I support it, partly for crappy Celtic romantic nationalistic reasons.
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2010, 10:03:45 AM »

I support it, partly for crappy Celtic romantic nationalistic reasons.

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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2010, 10:20:35 AM »

Well we saw what happened in America when places started seceeding from their union.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2010, 10:21:08 AM »

I support it, partly for crappy Celtic romantic nationalistic reasons.

HP.

I Purple heart Gully.

Anyway, as said before, whatever the Scots want is cool with me.  So long as the Scotch keeps flowing.

Would it be a Republic of Scotland or would they invite the House of Stuart back?  Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2010, 10:31:41 AM »

If Scotland does go independent, I wish they would take the North of England with them. We don't want to have to live in a Tory dominated England.
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2010, 01:57:18 PM »


Would it be a Republic of Scotland or would they invite the House of Stuart back?  Tongue

It'd be like Canada; the Queen would still be the monarch.
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2010, 02:01:03 PM »


Would it be a Republic of Scotland or would they invite the House of Stuart back?  Tongue

It'd be like Canada; the Queen would still be the monarch.
Either that or a Republic - SNP officially favors a Republic but proposes to put the issue to a separate vote.

Incidentally, the heir to the House of Stuart is the greatgrandson of the last King of Bavaria.
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2010, 02:02:22 PM »

Yes, a fully autonomous Scotland plus a united Ireland.
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2010, 02:20:13 PM »

The fact that the United Kingdom is a relatively unitary system

Only with regards to England.
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2010, 03:27:12 PM »

Nah, with regards to England it's grotesquely unitary (supposing both of you mean centralistic). That's something else.
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2010, 03:33:46 PM »

Yes, a fully autonomous Scotland plus a united Ireland.

Yeah, sure, that's a brilliant idea Roll Eyes
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2010, 04:06:07 PM »

It'd just be a complete pain in the ass, no? Don't know how EU travel/residency rules work, but would Scots living in England/Wales/Northern Ireland have to apply for like permanent residency equivalents or something? And Scottish citizens would have go through the process of exchanging the UK Passports for Scottish equivalents. Scots working in the British Federal Government (not exactly the right term, I know) would lose their jobs or have to go through some annoying transfer process. Wouldn't the reorganization of the UK/Scottish military be a bitch too? Plus the Eurozone vs. the Pound issue. The status-quo seems perfectly fine; you guys all lead great lives, I'm sure.
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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2010, 05:07:18 PM »

The fact that the United Kingdom is a relatively unitary system

Only with regards to England.

     But isn't the United Kingdom as a whole more unitary than, say, the United States?
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2010, 05:53:37 PM »

The fact that the United Kingdom is a relatively unitary system

Only with regards to England.

     But isn't the United Kingdom as a whole more unitary than, say, the United States?

Obviously. But in specific cases 'as a whole' is not relevant. Scotland has more 'independence' in some areas than any U.S state.
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2010, 06:12:16 PM »

Where is Field Marshal George Wade when you need him! 

Okay, somebody is going to the reference.  Smiley
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