Greg Palast: "Kerry Won"

[agcatter]

Nobody stole anything.  How about everyone just put this one in the rearview mirror, and we just get ready for 2008.

[dca5347]

Nobody stole anything.  How about everyone just put this one in the rearview mirror, and we just get ready for 2008.

I'll buy that for a dollar,and with no incumbants running,both party's should have interesting primaries & caucauses

[JohnFKennedy]

NOTE TO ALL DEMOCRATES:


Please,  get over it!!!!!!!!!!!

You did not win in 2000 and you did not win in 2004.  You can go and spin the numbers anyway you want, spit out your little talking points, but fact is you still lost.

Learn from what the American people are telling you instead of making talking points about why you lost.

Take note, possibly reaganfan in 14 years . Heehee.

(Joke)

Welcome to the forums.

Note Greg Palast is the author of "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy", look it up for some more of his work.

[Lincoln Republican]

I know this is a late post, but honestly, get real!
There was no fraud in Ohio, no supression of minorities vote in Ohio, and face it, the exit polls were out to lunch!

The only thing Kerry won in 2004 was the award for choosing the most over rated under qualified vice presidential running mate in history! 

Even Brad Pitt, Barbara Streisnad, Bruce Springsteen, etc, etc, etc, couldn't save this ticket!

And as we all know, of late, for any presidential candidate to achieve a majority of the popular vote is an accomplishment!

 
 

[J. J.]

It's nice to see the Loony Left in full form.

[MissCatholic]

We lost the election.

still makes me laugh though that Karl Rove and Karen Hughes lost Wisconsin.

[zorkpolitics]

We lost the election.

still makes me laugh though that Karl Rove and Karen Hughes lost Wisconsin.

Actually Bush probably did win a plurality of the legally cast votes in WI.  A Milwaukee Sentinal investigation has found evidence of massive voter irregularities.  More than 10,000  improper registration of voters with false addresses on election day (WI is one of the few states that allows same day registration).  More blatantly fraudulent, over 5000 unverified provisional ballots in Milwaukee were counted.   Altogether these irregularities probably accounted for Kerry's win.

[MissCatholic]

Look i understand that stuff happened in Wisconsin, but i`m not going to get into the nud and talk about what republicans did in other states.

Bottom line Kerry won Wisconsin, Bush won Ohio and the election.

[J.R. Brown]

Both parties used dirty tactics to win the election in the last couple months. Voter intimidation and what not.

[Alcon]

I don't really care if Bush won Wisconsin this year, but being 10-vote electoral swing states, it's about time that Wisconsin and Minnesota both got rid of that stupid system. And Mississippi, and North Dakota (which is even worse, I believe), and whatever other states have it. It's a disaster of a grand scale waiting to happen.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Actually Bush probably did win a plurality of the legally cast votes in WI.  A Milwaukee Sentinal investigation has found evidence of massive voter irregularities.  More than 10,000  improper registration of voters with false addresses on election day (WI is one of the few states that allows same day registration).  More blatantly fraudulent, over 5000 unverified provisional ballots in Milwaukee were counted.   Altogether these irregularities probably accounted for Kerry's win.

Proof please?

Or is this just more Republican crybaby sour grapes?

[Rob]

Proof please?

Since when do you, of all people, care about proof?

I don't have credibility problems, so I don't have to post proof.

[YRABNNRM]

Actually Bush probably did win a plurality of the legally cast votes in WI.  A Milwaukee Sentinal investigation has found evidence of massive voter irregularities.  More than 10,000  improper registration of voters with false addresses on election day (WI is one of the few states that allows same day registration).  More blatantly fraudulent, over 5000 unverified provisional ballots in Milwaukee were counted.   Altogether these irregularities probably accounted for Kerry's win.

Proof please?

Or is this just more Republican crybaby sour grapes?

Proof that Gore won Kentucky?

Or is this just more Bandit crybaby sour grapes?

[zorkpolitics]

Actually Bush probably did win a plurality of the legally cast votes in WI.  A Milwaukee Sentinal investigation has found evidence of massive voter irregularities.  More than 10,000  improper registration of voters with false addresses on election day (WI is one of the few states that allows same day registration).  More blatantly fraudulent, over 5000 unverified provisional ballots in Milwaukee were counted.   Altogether these irregularities probably accounted for Kerry's win.

Proof please?

Or is this just more Republican crybaby sour grapes?

see:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/mar05/312555.asp
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/mar05/312555.asp
http://www.jsonline.com/news/racine/feb05/302687.asp

[Bandit3 the Worker]

see:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/mar05/312555.asp
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/mar05/312555.asp
http://www.jsonline.com/news/racine/feb05/302687.asp

This is all political.

[Alcon]

see:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/mar05/312555.asp
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/mar05/312555.asp
http://www.jsonline.com/news/racine/feb05/302687.asp

This is all political.

What is all political? The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal?

[Sam Spade]

I don't really care if Bush won Wisconsin this year, but being 10-vote electoral swing states, it's about time that Wisconsin and Minnesota both got rid of that stupid system. And Mississippi, and North Dakota (which is even worse, I believe), and whatever other states have it. It's a disaster of a grand scale waiting to happen.

This I agree with 110%. 

I have no problem with people going out early to vote, as many states are starting to do more and more, in fact I think its a good idea.  But those states that use this system, along with absentee ballots, are the best and easiest possible ways to inflict fraud on the system, and should be severely limited.

[The Vorlon]

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won_.php

CNN's exit  poll showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47
percent.  Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio's male voters 51
percent to 49 percent. Unless a third gender voted in Ohio, Kerry
took the state.

Actually....

CNN's exit poll for Ohio showed:

Men => Bush 52 / Kerry 47
Women Bush 50 / Kerry 50

Other than this small fact The arrticle appears to be accurate...

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http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won_.php

CNN's exit  poll showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47
percent.  Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio's male voters 51
percent to 49 percent. Unless a third gender voted in Ohio, Kerry
took the state.

Actually....

CNN's exit poll for Ohio showed:

Men => Bush 52 / Kerry 47
Women Bush 50 / Kerry 50

Other than this small fact The arrticle appears to be accurate...

Those aren't the real numbers, the numbers after the polls closed had Kerry up. They then "fixed" them to match the actual results.

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Before:


After:


Hmm, an addition of 3% more respondants causes a 6% swing? Must be J.J. math.

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Anyone can make up a fake screenshot JFraud.

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Anyone can make up a fake screenshot JFraud.

Yeah, but only the Bush campaign has been busted for it.

From a Bush ad:

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Anyone can make up a fake screenshot JFraud.

Yeah, but only the Bush campaign has been busted for it.

From a Bush ad:

*Yawn* quit beating a dead horse

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*Yawn* quit beating a dead horse

Double standard
Bush lies and you don't care
Democrats tell the truth and you whine about them lying

[PBrunsel]

*Yawn* quit beating a dead horse

Double standard
Bush lies and you don't care
Democrats tell the truth and you whine about them lying

Yet still no one cares what you say jfern.