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« on: August 01, 2010, 11:53:57 AM »
« edited: August 01, 2010, 01:24:35 PM by August 1, 1944 »

Today a new Anti-Domestic Violence law went into an effect, prohibiting all form of corporal punishment at home.

So, Poland had finally joined severeal European countries where corporal punishment are einteirly prohibited both at home and school (we haven't this in school for decades, btw).



Green: Corporal punishment prohibited at home and school (yes, I wrote initially yellow out of retardness)

Blue: Prohibited at school only

Red: Not prohibited
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2010, 12:02:30 PM »

What does Green stand for?
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2010, 12:20:09 PM »

LOL France LOL
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2010, 12:27:25 PM »


He meant to say green when he said yellow.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2010, 12:43:23 PM »


Liberté, égalité, fraternité! Vive les valeurs de la république!

Do as I say, not as I do ought to be France's motto.
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2010, 01:22:51 PM »

     Perhaps corporal punishment should be permitted, but encourage the child to strike back. Instill the values of opposition to authority at a young age, you see.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2010, 01:23:35 PM »


Yes

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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2010, 01:25:53 PM »


LOL, France is just like Alabama and Oklahoma!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Corporal_punishment_in_the_United_States.svg
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2010, 04:11:20 PM »

I admit this map is making me really feel lost.
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2010, 04:23:55 PM »

I support "blue". Total bans are absurd.
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2010, 04:24:23 PM »

Clearly France and the Czechs are the only countries left with sense.
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2010, 04:55:06 PM »
« Edited: August 01, 2010, 04:56:51 PM by Bunwoah »

Euh, France doesn't allows to beat children, it allows low stuffs, like 'claque' (slap), and 'féssée' (spanking), that's all. I would think it's better not to use it, but a law? Dunno.

Though there has been a debate lately to ban these, the stuff was especially on féssée, well dunno at which point is the debate about it now, nothing passed so far though, it was a proposal from a UMP member.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2010, 05:03:29 PM »

Given France's propensity to legislate on every single matter imaginable, this issue probably has 500 laws concerning it, most of which likely contradict each other.
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2010, 05:14:37 PM »

I support "blue". Total bans are absurd.

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Schools shouldn't be allowed to use corporal punishment, but parents should.
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2010, 05:23:18 PM »

I support "blue". Total bans are absurd.

You need to be a moderate hero hack on everything, including, spanking, don't you? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2010, 05:26:12 PM »

I support "blue". Total bans are absurd.

You need to be a moderate hero hack on everything, including, spanking, don't you? Roll Eyes


If that's what you want to call it, I don't Care....but I don't like the state regulating what parents can use as discipline (within reason, of course). But then again, you love state Intervention.
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2010, 05:31:06 PM »

I support "blue". Total bans are absurd.

You need to be a moderate hero hack on everything, including, spanking, don't you? Roll Eyes


If that's what you want to call it, I don't Care....but I don't like the state regulating what parents can use as discipline (within reason, of course). But then again, you love state Intervention.

And you love violence.
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2010, 05:34:58 PM »

Obviously.
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2010, 08:08:33 PM »

I support "blue". Total bans are absurd.

You need to be a moderate hero hack on everything, including, spanking, don't you? Roll Eyes


If that's what you want to call it, I don't Care....but I don't like the state regulating what parents can use as discipline (within reason, of course). But then again, you love state Intervention.

God, that was so Libertas.

(and talking seriously, parents can't wield an absolute power. "It's my right to discipline my chilf with a..." is sometimes horribly abused. Maybe you was lucky, in your world of dreams and illusion, to never notice nor see from a close distance abuse victims. Well, I wasn't)
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2010, 07:58:12 AM »

That's still no reason to ban reasonable corporal punishment. If you ban things just because they can be abused in some cases, you'd have to ban a lot more than spanking.

Parents have the right to raise their children as they see fit unless some real danger exists for them.
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2010, 08:08:04 AM »

That's still no reason to ban reasonable corporal punishment. If you ban things just because they can be abused in some cases, you'd have to ban a lot more than spanking.

Parents have the right to raise their children as they see fit unless some real danger exists for them.

Point is, that with allowance, there's no real control to prevent abuse.
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2010, 08:21:45 AM »

If you think abusers will follow the banning laws, you're sadly mistaken, Kal.  But you love nanny states anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2010, 08:23:48 AM »

But then again, you love state Intervention.


I do. What's the problem with that ?
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2010, 09:09:16 AM »

That's still no reason to ban reasonable corporal punishment. If you ban things just because they can be abused in some cases, you'd have to ban a lot more than spanking.

Parents have the right to raise their children as they see fit unless some real danger exists for them.

Point is, that with allowance, there's no real control to prevent abuse.

Of course there is. Normal judicial system can be used to prosecute true abuse. Otherwise, Gramps is right. Abusive parents won't care about the Law. All you're doing is preventing parents from raising their children effectively.
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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2010, 09:12:08 AM »

But then again, you love state Intervention.


I do. What's the problem with that ?

No problem at all, it's just that we oppose it...and view it rather negatively.
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