Federal Government Working to Remove Sovereignty of States

[frihetsivrare]

http://www.activistpost.com/2010/07/federal-government-working-to-remove.html

[Franzl]

Run! Take shelter!

[Lief 🗽]

Excellent news!

[Free Palestine]

Excellent news!

Yes, it's excellent that that individuals who partake in the usage of medical cannabis still have to live in fear because of federal law.  It's excellent that power lies not in a government that the people have the most potential to influence, and it's awesome that the government can do whatever the hell it wants, Constitution be damned.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I wish.

[Free Palestine]

It's so horrible that people in another part of the country disagree and can make laws that I don't like.  I'm never going to live in Alabama or go anywhere near there, but it is very important to me that they not ban abortion.

[Franzl]

It's so horrible that people in another part of the country disagree and can make laws that I don't like.  I'm never going to live in Alabama or go anywhere near there, but it is very important to me that they not ban abortion.

There are also people in Birmingham, AL that will never live in Montgomery, AL. Why should they have a say in what laws are valid there?

[Lief 🗽]

It's so horrible that people in another part of the country disagree and can make laws that I don't like.  I'm never going to live in Alabama or go anywhere near there, but it is very important to me that they not ban abortion.

Yes, because, not being a libertarian, I am not a selfish narcissist, and I care about the rights of all Americans, not just those who live in states that protect these rights.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

It's so horrible that people in another part of the country disagree and can make laws that I don't like.  I'm never going to live in Alabama or go anywhere near there, but it is very important to me that they not ban abortion.

Yes, because, not being a libertarian, I am not a selfish narcissist, and I care about the rights of all Americans, not just those who live in states that protect these rights.

So you are openly a fascist now?

[Free Palestine]

It's so horrible that people in another part of the country disagree and can make laws that I don't like.  I'm never going to live in Alabama or go anywhere near there, but it is very important to me that they not ban abortion.

Yes, because, not being a libertarian, I am not a selfish narcissist, and I care about the rights of all Americans, not just those who live in states that protect these rights.

But you are a pompous egotist, which is why you believe that your idea of "rights" should be imposed on the entire nation.  People in Alabama, for instance, believe that abortion is an infringement on human rights.  You believe otherwise, and you are no more right than they are, except in your own head.

[Lief 🗽]

It's so horrible that people in another part of the country disagree and can make laws that I don't like.  I'm never going to live in Alabama or go anywhere near there, but it is very important to me that they not ban abortion.

Yes, because, not being a libertarian, I am not a selfish narcissist, and I care about the rights of all Americans, not just those who live in states that protect these rights.

So you are openly a fascist now?

You're going to have to explain to me how a post about wanting the rights of all Americans, regardless of their geographic location, be protected means I'm a fascist.

[Lunar]

Tone it down a notch.  Deleted the crazy Hitler post, but c'mon peeps

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

It's so horrible that people in another part of the country disagree and can make laws that I don't like.  I'm never going to live in Alabama or go anywhere near there, but it is very important to me that they not ban abortion.

Yes, because, not being a libertarian, I am not a selfish narcissist, and I care about the rights of all Americans, not just those who live in states that protect these rights.

So you are openly a fascist now?

You're going to have to explain to me how a post about wanting the rights of all Americans, regardless of their geographic location, be protected means I'm a fascist.

Well I'm putting 2 and 2 together here. You hate democracy, you want a dictatorship, you want centralization of power, you want corporatized healthcare, you support militarist warmonger Barack Obama, etc., etc....it's a struggle to find differences between your apparent ideology and fascism.

[Free Palestine]

Tone it down a notch.  Deleted the crazy Hitler post, but c'mon peeps

Seemed like at least a semi-valid point, nothing worth deleting.

[Free Palestine]

It's so horrible that people in another part of the country disagree and can make laws that I don't like.  I'm never going to live in Alabama or go anywhere near there, but it is very important to me that they not ban abortion.

Yes, because, not being a libertarian, I am not a selfish narcissist, and I care about the rights of all Americans, not just those who live in states that protect these rights.

So you are openly a fascist now?

You're going to have to explain to me how a post about wanting the rights of all Americans, regardless of their geographic location, be protected means I'm a fascist.

As I've said, it's what you feel are the "rights of all Americans."  And that's the whole problem.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Tone it down a notch.  Deleted the crazy Hitler post, but c'mon peeps

Seemed like at least a semi-valid point, nothing worth deleting.

Yeah, what the hell, the mods are out of control. That post was perfectly on-point here.

And I even got infraction points for it? WTF?

[Lunar]

Whatever, it's documented in the Godwin's thread, you can debate its merit there.  Point was that things need to be toned down a notch yo.

It's Sunday, not the partying night.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Whatever, it's documented in the Goodwin's thread, you can debate its merit there.  Point was that things need to be toned down a notch yo.

It's Sunday, not the partying night.

Toned down? There was nothing AT ALL inappropriate about that post. It belongs here, not in the Godwin's thread. It's relevant to the debate in this thread, not that one.

Whoever reported that post should get banned.

You should be ashamed of yourself engaging in this sort of behavior.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Tone it down a notch.  Deleted the crazy Hitler post, but c'mon peeps

Seemed like at least a semi-valid point, nothing worth deleting.

I also got 2 infraction points for "trolling", despite it being exactly about the issue discussed in this thread.

[Vepres]

Old, but unfortunate, news.

[Free Palestine]

Really, there is no reason why Massachusetts and Alabama should have the same laws regarding abortion or same-sex marriage, except that some pompous egotists, on both sides of the political spectrum, feel that their ideas of "rights" should be imposed on both regions.  Mike Huckabee wants abortion and same-sex marriage federally banned, as some on the left want both federally legalized.  They don't care if a majority of the population in Vermont or Texas or Oregon would feel differently.  It's their way or the highway.  All it boils down to is egotism, as well as petty nationalism.

[Хahar 🤔]

How dare rights be universal!

[Sewer]

If you like human rights then your a fascist?

[Free Palestine]

How dare rights be universal!

How dare people think abortion is murder!

If you like human rights then your a fascist?

No.  I like human rights, but I'm not a moral absolutist.

I'd might be fine with constitutional amendments to legalize same-sex marriage and abortion, if three-fourths of the states and two-thirds of the House and Senate would approve such a thing.

[Sewer]

So if, say a state legalized rape, the government should do... nothing?