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« on: June 24, 2010, 04:01:00 PM »

could he win the Dem Primary?

Could he beat John McCain?
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 04:07:53 PM »

No he would get about 5 states.
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 10:12:45 PM »
« Edited: June 24, 2010, 10:17:55 PM by President Thomas E. Dewey »

The Dems would had to have taken complete leave of their senses to nominate Clooney, however, if they became temporarily insane and did give him the nomination, this is how the election would turn out-

McCain          491
Clooney           47

Being generous to Clooney.

Some may like his B grade movies and mediocre acting, however, the nation would not, under any circumstances, entrust the leadership of America and the free world to some celluloid prima donna.

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 10:21:17 PM »

The Dems would had to have taken complete leave of their senses to nominate Clooney, however, if they became temporarily insane and did give him the nomination, this is how the election would turn out-

McCain          491
Clooney           47

Being generous to Clooney.

Some may like his B grade movies and mediocre acting, however, the nation would not, under any circumstances, entrust the leadership of America and the free world to some celluloid prima donna.



Same could have been said about Reagan, but he did quite well in both of his elections.
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 10:22:18 PM »

I say Huckabee... I have a personal liking for that guy. I don't like his policies, but I like him.
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 10:31:41 PM »
« Edited: June 24, 2010, 10:33:17 PM by President Thomas E. Dewey »

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Reagan had served two successful terms as Governor of California and had become a major conservative spokesman, going back to the late fifties and early sixties.

He gave sitting President Ford a very strong challenge for the GOP nomination in 1976 before convincingly winning the nomination in 1980.

Long before seeking the Presidency, Reagan had established himself as one of the best communicators in the country.

Clooney would have none of these credentials, or anyting approaching them, should he ever run.  
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 10:35:12 PM »

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Reagan had served two successful terms as Governor of California and had become a major conservative spokesman, going back to the late fifties and early sixties.

He gave sitting President Ford a very strong challenge for the GOP nomination in 1976 before convincingly winning the nomination in 1980.

Long before seeking the Presidency, Reagan had established himself as one of the best communicators in the country.

Clooney would have none of these credentials, or anyting approaching them, should he ever run.  

Well in this alternate universe where Clooney is the Democratic nominee, it's assumed that he has held some political office. No one will go from being an actor straight to winning a major parties Nomination for President.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 10:42:05 PM »

Topher, in the questions posed by the author of this thread, there is nothing to indicate that Clooney had any previous political experience or credentials.

Huckabee-Pence simply asked if Clooney could win the Dem nomination and if he could beat McCain.

Anything beyond this is simply conjecture or assumptions.

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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 10:44:55 PM »

Topher, in the questions posed by the author of this thread, there is nothing to indicate that Clooney had any previous political experience or credentials.

Huckabee-Pence simply asked if Clooney could win the Dem nomination and if he could beat McCain.

Anything beyond this is simply conjecture or assumptions.

Welcome to the forum by the way.

Fair enough.

And thank you. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 10:49:46 PM »

NCPitt436, welcome to the forum to you as well.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 11:20:23 PM »

The Dems would had to have taken complete leave of their senses to nominate Clooney, however, if they became temporarily insane and did give him the nomination, this is how the election would turn out-

McCain          491
Clooney           47

Being generous to Clooney.

Some may like his B grade movies and mediocre acting, however, the nation would not, under any circumstances, entrust the leadership of America and the free world to some celluloid prima donna.



Same could have been said about Reagan, but he did quite well in both of his elections.

No the same can't be said about Reagan. I know for someone who loves Hollywood or doesn't like Reagan that's an easy comment to make. The truth is Reagan was actually governor of a state and was conservative. Clooney would look like a left wing loon with no experience.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2010, 11:29:25 PM »

The Dems would had to have taken complete leave of their senses to nominate Clooney, however, if they became temporarily insane and did give him the nomination, this is how the election would turn out-

McCain          491
Clooney           47

Being generous to Clooney.

Some may like his B grade movies and mediocre acting, however, the nation would not, under any circumstances, entrust the leadership of America and the free world to some celluloid prima donna.



Same could have been said about Reagan, but he did quite well in both of his elections.

No the same can't be said about Reagan. I know for someone who loves Hollywood or doesn't like Reagan that's an easy comment to make. The truth is Reagan was actually governor of a state and was conservative. Clooney would look like a left wing loon with no experience.

This is settled. My point was if Clooney had political experience, then that would make him much more electable. Of course he gets crushed when he goes straight from actor to candidate. Do you think Reagan would have won if he just went from actor to candidate? Of course not.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2010, 12:26:01 AM »

No he would have lost too.
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2010, 06:43:46 AM »

could he win the Dem Primary?

Could he beat John McCain?

Any candidate with a "[D]" following his/her name would've won Election 2008 over a candidate with an "[R]" following his/her name.
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2010, 07:21:37 PM »

could he win the Dem Primary?

Could he beat John McCain?

Any candidate with a "[D]" following his/her name would've won Election 2008 over a candidate with an "[R]" following his/her name.

Not so.  The country would never elect some pretentious thespian over a proven political leader like McCain in 2008 to lead the nation.  Quit dreaming.
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2010, 07:40:55 PM »

could he win the Dem Primary?

Could he beat John McCain?

Any candidate with a "[D]" following his/her name would've won Election 2008 over a candidate with an "[R]" following his/her name.

Not so.  The country would never elect some pretentious thespian over a proven political leader like McCain in 2008 to lead the nation.  Quit dreaming.

No dreaming.

And what a pity it is that you forgot how McCain had been such a star-f***er a few years ago.

A gift for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EBR84wPMrg
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2010, 12:16:36 PM »

DS0816, thank you for the video.

I am in total agreement with the message being conveyed in the interview.

What you fail to take into consideration is who the Democrats nominate.  The key words in this interview are acceptable alternative.

Clearly, the Democrats were going into the 1988 election as the odds on favorites to win the Presidency, after eight years of Republican administration.  Vice President George HW Bush, however, was successful in painting Dukakis as someone unfit for the Presidency.

If the Republicans had such phenomenal success in painting Dukakis, a twelve year Governor of Massachusetts as unfit for the Presidency, then just imagine what the Republicans would do to someone like a left coast multi millionaire Hollywood ham like Clooney.

I can see the ads now from independent organizations
 
GEORGE CLOONEY THE LEFTIST LOONEY

I agree, 2008 was for all intents and purposes unwinnable for the Republicans, that is of course unless the Democrats nominated someone, e.g. Clooney, who was completely unqualified for the Presidency and not in the least bit credible as a nominee.  The Republicans would have completely destroyed him as a Presidential candidate.

Even given the fact that 77% of Americans wanted change, they still had to have an acceptable alternative to change to.  Given an acceptable alternative, i.e. Obama, yes, they would most definitely make a change.  Presented with some silver screen scene stealer, i.e. Clooney, however, they would most definitely go for a proven political leader, i.e. McCain.

Get real.

The bottom line is, the alternative has to be credible and acceptable.
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2010, 01:36:40 PM »

DS0816, thank you for the video.

I am in total agreement with the message being conveyed in the interview.

Good.
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2010, 01:44:44 PM »

The key words in this interview are acceptable alternative.

I am pleased to see we both agree.
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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2010, 06:40:19 PM »

The key words in this interview are acceptable alternative.

I am pleased to see we both agree.

Yes, I'm very happy that you understand that George Clooney would've defeated John McCain.
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2010, 05:39:45 PM »
« Edited: June 27, 2010, 10:46:16 PM by President Thomas E. Dewey »

The key words in this interview are acceptable alternative.

I am pleased to see we both agree.

Yes, I'm very happy that you understand that George Clooney would've defeated John McCain.


Oh no, no, no, my friend.

You see, what you fail continually to understand, is that George Clooney fails, by light years, to come up to the level of an acceptable alternative.
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