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« on: June 23, 2010, 03:42:04 PM »
« edited: July 12, 2010, 10:03:31 PM by Rochambeau »

I'd say it's a close race between Jackson, Nixon, and Bush Jr., but I'd go with Bush Jr. in the end.
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 03:48:46 PM »

Wilson, Bush Jr., Johnson, Nixon, McKinley, Reagan, Roosevelt, Jackson, Lincoln, Clinton, Grant, Madison
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 04:00:13 PM »

Wilson, Bush Jr., Johnson, Nixon, McKinley, Reagan, Roosevelt, Jackson, Lincoln, Clinton, Grant, Madison

You can only pick one.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 04:19:33 PM »

Wilson, Bush Jr., Johnson, Nixon, McKinley, Reagan, Roosevelt, Jackson, Lincoln, Clinton, Grant, Madison

You can only pick one.

It's a tie. All of them were equally undeserving of re-election.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 05:10:37 PM »

FDR
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 05:28:38 PM »

I think Bush was the only one who didn't deserve reelection.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 06:42:16 PM »

The reason I say FDR is because he tried to politically force the supreme court members to resign and wanted to stack the court with left wing ideologues. Plus he didn't even follow Washington's example of 2 terms and then stepping down. I've said the same about Clinton but that's a whole different story.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 09:01:28 AM »

Lincoln
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 06:28:08 PM »

The reason I say FDR is because he tried to politically force the supreme court members to resign and wanted to stack the court with left wing ideologues. Plus he didn't even follow Washington's example of 2 terms and then stepping down. I've said the same about Clinton but that's a whole different story.

FDR would have stepped down after two terms if it wasn't for WWII.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 06:29:06 PM »


Lincoln won the Civil War and abolsihed slavery. He deserved to get relected for that. It's a huge tragedy he was assainted, though. Our country would have been much better off right now if it wasn't for that.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 08:25:40 PM »


Lincoln won the Civil War and abolsihed slavery. He deserved to get relected for that. It's a huge tragedy he was assainted, though. Our country would have been much better off right now if it wasn't for that.

Lincoln was psychotic and a manipulative sociopath. You learn about slavery in schools today but really the civil war had little to do with slavery until almost the end. Remember it's the victors who write history and not the victims.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2010, 12:42:31 AM »


Lincoln won the Civil War and abolsihed slavery. He deserved to get relected for that. It's a huge tragedy he was assainted, though. Our country would have been much better off right now if it wasn't for that.

I doubt it. The period of congressional rule that followed the election of 1866 was good for America.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2010, 11:12:16 AM »

You mean the radical Republicans? ^^ Those were the glory days of the party but like anyone who is in power for too long they became corrupt and were nonexistent between 1929 and 1952. In fact I would even say it wasn't until 1980 that they were fully recovered.
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2010, 11:34:52 AM »

Lincoln won the Civil War and abolished slavery. He deserved to get reelected for that. It's a huge tragedy he was assainted, though. Our country would have been much better off right now if it wasn't for that.

I doubt it. The period of congressional rule that followed the election of 1866 was good for America.

If Reconstruction hadn't been so Radical, maybe it would have survived past 1876.
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2010, 02:32:58 PM »

     Jackson should have been imprisoned for the forced removal & subsequent deaths of many of the Cherokee, forget about re-election. Bush gets an honorable mention for the activities of his administration in trying to convince the public to support war with Iraq.
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2010, 10:49:42 AM »


Lincoln won the Civil War and abolsihed slavery. He deserved to get relected for that. It's a huge tragedy he was assainted, though. Our country would have been much better off right now if it wasn't for that.

Lincoln didnt abolish slavery the 13th amendment did. Lincoln destroyed the constitution and would not allow the south to legally succeed from the union, which it had every right to do.
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2010, 11:38:38 AM »

Even though Teddy Roosevelt wasn't didn't technically serve 2 terms, he should have been on the list.  By the time of the 1904 election Americans had had almost 4 years of his presidency.  If he were included on the list I would have voted for him, Mark Hanna would make such a better Republican nominee.

Since he isn't on the list I voted for Wilson, who barley won 1916.  His isolationist policies in regards to WWI and his extremley-socialist economic polices and his blunt bigotry just don't make him deserving of being called a "two-term president". 
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2010, 04:31:39 PM »


Lincoln won the Civil War and abolsihed slavery. He deserved to get relected for that. It's a huge tragedy he was assainted, though. Our country would have been much better off right now if it wasn't for that.

Lincoln didnt abolish slavery the 13th amendment did. Lincoln destroyed the constitution and would not allow the south to legally succeed from the union, which it had every right to do.

That's true. You never learn the other side of the civil war because democrats don't want it in our text books. Just like they don't want you to know about the black founding fathers. Instead you're taught about America's racist history that is a figment of the left's imagination.
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2010, 05:45:35 AM »

Jackson, without the slightest hint of doubt.
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2010, 07:22:44 AM »

Bush (normal).

If you weigh the margin by which they were reelected, the least deserved result is Reagan's in 1984.
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2010, 11:40:29 AM »


Lincoln won the Civil War and abolsihed slavery. He deserved to get relected for that. It's a huge tragedy he was assainted, though. Our country would have been much better off right now if it wasn't for that.

Lincoln didnt abolish slavery the 13th amendment did. Lincoln destroyed the constitution and would not allow the south to legally succeed from the union, which it had every right to do.

That's true. You never learn the other side of the civil war because democrats don't want it in our text books. Just like they don't want you to know about the black founding fathers. Instead you're taught about America's racist history that is a figment of the left's imagination.
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2010, 01:11:07 PM »
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Lincoln won the Civil War and abolsihed slavery. He deserved to get relected for that. It's a huge tragedy he was assainted, though. Our country would have been much better off right now if it wasn't for that.

Lincoln didnt abolish slavery the 13th amendment did. Lincoln destroyed the constitution and would not allow the south to legally succeed from the union, which it had every right to do.

That's true. You never learn the other side of the civil war because democrats don't want it in our text books. Just like they don't want you to know about the black founding fathers. Instead you're taught about America's racist history that is a figment of the left's imagination.

Are you seriously suggesting that 19th century America wasn't a racist society?


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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2010, 01:16:12 PM »

Even though Teddy Roosevelt wasn't didn't technically serve 2 terms, he should have been on the list.  By the time of the 1904 election Americans had had almost 4 years of his presidency.  If he were included on the list I would have voted for him, Mark Hanna would make such a better Republican nominee.

Since he isn't on the list I voted for Wilson, who barley won 1916.  His isolationist policies in regards to WWI and his extremley-socialist economic polices and his blunt bigotry just don't make him deserving of being called a "two-term president". 

Teddy Roosevelt served almost two full terms, but he was only elected once. Thus, he doesn't belong on this list, just like Truman doesn't belong on this list. As for Wilson, I agree with you that he screwed up a lot but I still think Bush Jr. screwed up even more.
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2010, 10:37:37 PM »


Lincoln won the Civil War and abolsihed slavery. He deserved to get relected for that. It's a huge tragedy he was assainted, though. Our country would have been much better off right now if it wasn't for that.

Lincoln didnt abolish slavery the 13th amendment did. Lincoln destroyed the constitution and would not allow the south to legally succeed from the union, which it had every right to do.

That's true. You never learn the other side of the civil war because democrats don't want it in our text books. Just like they don't want you to know about the black founding fathers. Instead you're taught about America's racist history that is a figment of the left's imagination.

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No its not true. Lincoln saved the Constitution. As I already over in the Civil War thread. Secession was not legal or legitimate as there is no basis based on intepretations of the Constitution either now or back then that make it legal. The South was destroying the Constitution because it lost a political fight. Lincoln and the Republican party fought to preserve the Constitution and make sure that it applied to everyone regardless of who had 51% of the vote as it clearly evidenced in the Lincoln-Douglas debates where Douglas claims that a majority in any area, town, county, and state can deny the protections of the Constitution from the minority. Which is one of the reason's the party took the name Republican, was because it opposed majoritarian dictatorship. The south still had everyone of its constitutional protections in place in 1861, it lost a political debate and an election. This was not justification for secession and certainly not arising to the standards laid out by Jefferson in the Declaration for overthrowing the gov't once it no longer protects those constitutional rights.

The other statement about racisim is just ridiculous. You should read Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the US". Though I disagree with the overall anti-US bias, it none-the-less illustrates where we went wrong and thus know how to avoid those mistakes.


The answer is Jackson without a doubt. The guy was a corrupt, egotistical, dictatorial, and irresponsible crook.   
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2010, 02:29:29 AM »

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