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Derek
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« on: June 08, 2010, 10:57:07 PM »

There are hundreds of reasons for our deficits. At least when it's spent on weapons and missiles, our country is helping the private sector out being that they are bought from the market. I've heard stories where we blow up rocks and buildings that have already been blown up because we have such an abundance. If we keep buying and benefiting the private sector like this, then the unemployed can work making nuclear weapons and missiles.
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 02:36:39 PM »

There are hundreds of reasons for our deficits. At least when it's spent on weapons and missiles, our country is helping the private sector out being that they are bought from the market. I've heard stories where we blow up rocks and buildings that have already been blown up because we have such an abundance. If we keep buying and benefiting the private sector like this, then the unemployed can work making nuclear weapons and missiles.

I remember a guy who continuously repeated that deficits were always bad. Roll Eyes

They are if they're repeated. Look our debt is about to be greater than the entire net worth of our country soon.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 07:28:29 PM »

There are hundreds of reasons for our deficits. At least when it's spent on weapons and missiles, our country is helping the private sector out being that they are bought from the market. I've heard stories where we blow up rocks and buildings that have already been blown up because we have such an abundance. If we keep buying and benefiting the private sector like this, then the unemployed can work making nuclear weapons and missiles.

I remember a guy who continuously repeated that deficits were always bad. Roll Eyes

They are if they're repeated. Look our debt is about to be greater than the entire net worth of our country soon.

We can thnak Reagan, Bush Sr., and Bush Jr. for that.

No surprise you only blame Republicans and not democrats. As for a lock on the white house? I think Obama needs to get rid of his tough angry man who talks street before he has a chance at winning in 2012. Everyone sees it in him.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2010, 08:50:44 PM »

I think the only thing that is a "lock on the White House" are: the lobbyists, corporations, special interests, and big-industry (like BP and its ilk).

Haha well said... clap clap clap. You couldn't be more right. As for democrats; how bout a lock out of the white house is more like it.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2010, 10:24:00 PM »

     Presidential contests have so much to do with personal popularity that reading into a lock for either party just seems silly.

Only if you're talking about the MTV crowd.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2010, 01:28:31 AM »

     Presidential contests have so much to do with personal popularity that reading into a lock for either party just seems silly.

Only if you're talking about the MTV crowd.

     The more charismatic Presidential candidate has been the winner in each election going back to at least 1980. Remembering back to 2004, Kerry definitely suffered from loss from being perceived as a blueblooded New Englander as opposed to Bush, who was perceived as down-to-earth & in touch with the common man.

There have been charismatic candidates who have lost too though. I don't view Obama as charismatic as much as I do mean and cult like.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2010, 04:51:28 PM »

I think the only thing that is a "lock on the White House" are: the lobbyists, corporations, special interests, and big-industry (like BP and its ilk).

Haha well said... clap clap clap. You couldn't be more right. As for democrats; how bout a lock out of the white house is more like it.

So you agree … but it's okay for Republicans to beholden to "the lobbyists, corporations, special interests, and big-industry (like BP and its ilk)"?

Nope and the lobbyists would've been done had McCain been elected. If you read my government reform in individual politics I advocate a ban for soft money from corporations and unions as well.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2010, 08:19:15 PM »

     Presidential contests have so much to do with personal popularity that reading into a lock for either party just seems silly.

Only if you're talking about the MTV crowd.

     The more charismatic Presidential candidate has been the winner in each election going back to at least 1980. Remembering back to 2004, Kerry definitely suffered from loss from being perceived as a blueblooded New Englander as opposed to Bush, who was perceived as down-to-earth & in touch with the common man.

There have been charismatic candidates who have lost too though. I don't view Obama as charismatic as much as I do mean and cult like.

     Yes, but the more charismatic candidate has typically won general election matchups. For that matter, I don't really view Clinton or either Bush as being charismatic either. It has to do with how the bulk of the electorate views them in comparison to their opponent.

Oh I view them as charismatic but not Obama. Actually I think McCain was underrated but wasn't going to win after the financial meltdown.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2010, 02:12:39 AM »

     Presidential contests have so much to do with personal popularity that reading into a lock for either party just seems silly.

Only if you're talking about the MTV crowd.

     The more charismatic Presidential candidate has been the winner in each election going back to at least 1980. Remembering back to 2004, Kerry definitely suffered from loss from being perceived as a blueblooded New Englander as opposed to Bush, who was perceived as down-to-earth & in touch with the common man.

There have been charismatic candidates who have lost too though. I don't view Obama as charismatic as much as I do mean and cult like.

     Yes, but the more charismatic candidate has typically won general election matchups. For that matter, I don't really view Clinton or either Bush as being charismatic either. It has to do with how the bulk of the electorate views them in comparison to their opponent.

Oh I view them as charismatic but not Obama. Actually I think McCain was underrated but wasn't going to win after the financial meltdown.

     McCain was already going to have an uphill battle, but I agree that the financial meltdown sealed the deal. Had it not occurred, I think Obama would have probably won by a margin comparable to Bush's margin in 2004.

Hard to say. McCain led both Obama and Hillary until the primary was over for the dems. After that Obama took the lead for the most part until McCain picked Palin. At that point McCain had 2-3 weeks where he led in about every battleground state. Once the financial meltdown happened, McCain had nowhere to go but up.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2010, 09:58:35 PM »

Neither party has a lock.  If the country improves the incumbent party can retain the WH, if the economy falters they're gone.
If unemployment is still above 8%, GDP growth below 3%, Debt exploding, its not unreasonable to think a Daniels or Thune could beat Obama in 2012.

Also, post the census about 8-10 EVs will shift from the Democratic NE states to the Rep southern states, giving the GOP a small advantage in close elections.


Excuse me and it's not just you, but alot of people here think that 7.5 and 8% are the levels for unemployment. I seem to remember unemployment being at 5.4% and our GDP rate being 7.2% in 2003 and 2004 and Bush being blamed for a bad economy. Since when did 8% unemployment become ok?
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 11:27:53 PM »

they have as much a lock on it as they have on the U.S. Senate in Massachusetts.

Haha clap clap clap clap. Amen brother. It's ok anyone can buy a truck.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2010, 02:53:04 PM »


It's about expectations and change. Unemployment was still high in 1936, but FDR won 48 states.

And when Franklin Roosevelt had that massive landslide of a re-election, the Republicans were still being rejected thanks to their disastrous predecessor, Herbert Hoover. And that's been a lesson around here, with George W. Bush this period's Herbert Hoover, with a desperate insistence by the GOPs here who think the party can win back the White House as soon as 2012. It's bizarre and delusional.


We'll see how the 2010 elections go. If Republicans were that much in disfavor and Bush still remembered, Democrats would be picking up seats this year. 



I hope you're not serious. Even Obama and Pelosi are preparing to lose the House by asking for money from people to fight off Republican ads. That's a sign of retreat. I'm looking forward to seeing Pelosi handing over the gavel. Plus Bush will soon be more popular than Obama.
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