Giuliani to visit NH

[Phony Moderate]

The main difference between Obama and Giuliani on foreign policy is that Giuliani would have already invaded Iran, if he were President.

[Derek]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

[Derek]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

What makes you say that?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

What makes you say that?

Rudy Giuliani hates our freedom.

[Derek]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

What makes you say that?

Rudy Giuliani hates our freedom.

How so? I'm not a big fan of him either but I'd like to hear exactly why ppl are so against him. I have my differences with him on abortion and guns.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

What makes you say that?

Rudy Giuliani hates our freedom.

How so? I'm not a big fan of him either but I'd like to hear exactly why ppl are so against him. I have my differences with him on abortion and guns.

"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."
--Rudy Giuliani

[Tuck!]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

What makes you say that?

Rudy Giuliani hates our freedom.

How so? I'm not a big fan of him either but I'd like to hear exactly why ppl are so against him. I have my differences with him on abortion and guns.

"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."
--Rudy Giuliani

He's right.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

What makes you say that?

Rudy Giuliani hates our freedom.

How so? I'm not a big fan of him either but I'd like to hear exactly why ppl are so against him. I have my differences with him on abortion and guns.

"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."
--Rudy Giuliani

That quote is very Locke-esque, actually. We gave up our freedoms to entire society for the promise of collective security, but I'm not here to get into a philosophical discussion right now.

There's nothing wrong with that quote. In a sense, he's dead on.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

What makes you say that?

Rudy Giuliani hates our freedom.

How so? I'm not a big fan of him either but I'd like to hear exactly why ppl are so against him. I have my differences with him on abortion and guns.

"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."
--Rudy Giuliani

That quote is very Locke-esque, actually. We gave up our freedoms to entire society for the promise of collective security, but I'm not here to get into a philosophical discussion right now.

I see it as more Orwell-esque than Locke-esque actually.

[Derek]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

My that's almost as bad as Obama saying he wouldn't punish his girls with a baby if one of them got pregnant and almost as bad as Obama saying the war on terror isn't like a football game where he's worried about victory. Remember a few weeks ago when Obama said at some point he thinks someone has made enough money. Who is Obama to decide who makes what? As for Rudi Guiliani, I never did think he was a true conservative. Thanks for that quote btw!

What makes you say that?

Rudy Giuliani hates our freedom.

How so? I'm not a big fan of him either but I'd like to hear exactly why ppl are so against him. I have my differences with him on abortion and guns.

"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."
--Rudy Giuliani

[Derek]

I never was a big Rudi fan and I never thought he was a true conservative. That quote sounds almost as bad as when Obama said that he wouldn't punish his girls with a baby if one of them got pregnant, or when he said that at some point people make enough money. Who is Obama to decide who can make what? Remember when Obama said that the war on terror is not like a football game where he is worried about victory too. Ok so Rudi isn't perfect and that's why I'd be uncomfortable with him as the GOP nominee.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Perhaps you do. But you'll find in most political philosophical ideologies, we will never been in a state of freedom unless the state is destroyed. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not be out in the woods fending for myself. I don't mind ceding some of my liberties for the security I get from them. The only flaw in Locke's argument is that, in his mind, you should be free to leave civil society easily if you don't like it's laws, and you can't leave the US if you don't like it that easily.

Sorry, i had to go there. No more philosophy from me.

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Does he want to purchase another hypothetical federal Republican delegate at the low low price of $62 million?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Perhaps you do. But you'll find in most political philosophical ideologies, we will never been in a state of freedom unless the state is destroyed. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not be out in the woods fending for myself. I don't mind ceding some of my liberties for the security I get from them. The only flaw in Locke's argument is that, in his mind, you should be free to leave civil society easily if you don't like it's laws, and you can't leave the US if you don't like it that easily.

Sorry, i had to go there. No more philosophy from me.

Even if the state must exist (and I don't support it's existence), it need not exist in the radical fascist version that Il Douche supports.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Fair enough. That's the last political theory discussion you'll get out of me for a while! I hated that class when i took it last semester!

[Derek]

Perhaps you do. But you'll find in most political philosophical ideologies, we will never been in a state of freedom unless the state is destroyed. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not be out in the woods fending for myself. I don't mind ceding some of my liberties for the security I get from them. The only flaw in Locke's argument is that, in his mind, you should be free to leave civil society easily if you don't like it's laws, and you can't leave the US if you don't like it that easily.

Sorry, i had to go there. No more philosophy from me.

This is very true. We are free in the sense that we elect our own leaders but that is about it. However, I'm for states almost completely self governing. This would mean that if you don't like the laws in Rhode Island, then you could move to Texas. Yes, I know that is the case now, but most laws imposed on us today are from the federal government and that is not what the founders intended. Locke did not see the US that we live in today keep in mind and the founders would never reognize America today.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I just realized how bad some of the sentences are that i typed. This iPad is a piece of work, and it makes me seem crazy with some of the wording i used thanks to the intelligent typing corrector.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I just realized how bad some of the sentences are that i typed. This iPad is a piece of work, and it makes me seem crazy with some of the wording i used thanks to the intelligent typing corrector.

Right, blame the iPad.

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The founders are not a single entity with identical opinions on every issue. There certainly were founders who wanted and approved of a strong Federal Government if not identical to the one we have today. The constitution is made up of compromises on these issues.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

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There certainly were founders who wanted and approved of a strong Federal Government if not identical to the one we have today.

Yes, counterrevolutionary traitors.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Perhaps you do. But you'll find in most political philosophical ideologies, we will never been in a state of freedom unless the state is destroyed. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not be out in the woods fending for myself. I don't mind ceding some of my liberties for the security I get from them. The only flaw in Locke's argument is that, in his mind, you should be free to leave civil society easily if you don't like it's laws, and you can't leave the US if you don't like it that easily.

Sorry, i had to go there. No more philosophy from me.

This is very true. We are free in the sense that we elect our own leaders but that is about it. However, I'm for states almost completely self governing. This would mean that if you don't like the laws in Rhode Island, then you could move to Texas. Yes, I know that is the case now, but most laws imposed on us today are from the federal government and that is not what the founders intended. Locke did not see the US that we live in today keep in mind and the founders would never reognize America today.

That's why it is important that states begin seceding from the U.S. federal regime.

[Derek]

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The founders are not a single entity with identical opinions on every issue. There certainly were founders who wanted and approved of a strong Federal Government if not identical to the one we have today. The constitution is made up of compromises on these issues.

Very true, the federalists and anti-federalists differed on alot but when it came time to defend this country from the beginning, they were all there together.

[Derek]

Perhaps you do. But you'll find in most political philosophical ideologies, we will never been in a state of freedom unless the state is destroyed. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not be out in the woods fending for myself. I don't mind ceding some of my liberties for the security I get from them. The only flaw in Locke's argument is that, in his mind, you should be free to leave civil society easily if you don't like it's laws, and you can't leave the US if you don't like it that easily.

Sorry, i had to go there. No more philosophy from me.

This is very true. We are free in the sense that we elect our own leaders but that is about it. However, I'm for states almost completely self governing. This would mean that if you don't like the laws in Rhode Island, then you could move to Texas. Yes, I know that is the case now, but most laws imposed on us today are from the federal government and that is not what the founders intended. Locke did not see the US that we live in today keep in mind and the founders would never reognize America today.

That's why it is important that states begin seceding from the U.S. federal regime.

Well making it a crime doesn't stop anything. Once a state secedes, it is no longer illegal. What are you going to do if Texas secedes? Send tanks in there? I wonder how that would make America look. That's like saying the Revolutionary War was illegal.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I strongly dislike Giuliani's policies, but I must say it would be interesting to see him run again. I cannot think of another candidate who polled so strongly for so long, yet was ultimately so irrelevant to the outcome of the campaign. Maybe he would hire more competent advisors the second time around, but I also suspect his brand might be rather...damaged from his dismal 2008 run.