Republicans Finally Fight Back Today on 380 tons

[Pollwatch99]

Happy to see Bush speak out but he should hit him harder.

John Kerry always willing to accept the words of the International Community and the UN even without proof.  Never willing to accept the words of our miltary personnel and commanders despite proof.  Wrong in 1991 and Wrong in 2004.

[J. J.]

Here is a link about the improbability of the explosives being looted:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6323933/

There may be satellite imaging of trucks around the bunkers prior to the US invasion.  If such imaging exists and is released, that will pretty much kill any chance Kerry has.

[Pollwatch99]

Kerry had a choice to make.  The report came out.  The embedded reporters contradicted. Our miltary has said they weren't at the site.

Kerry decided to go ahead with a commerical.  He made his choice, accept UN report or accept our miltary.  Let's decide the election on this issue.  He made his choice   

[J. J.]

Ah, you better take a look at Drudge.

[Pollwatch99]

I saw it but it doesn't matter. 

It's far worse in my opinion that the man who wants to sit in the Oval Office is willing to accept UN sources over our miltary leaders even after getting contradictory information.  Let him run for UN Secretary     

[J. J.]

The new story strikes at Kerry's intellectual honesty, or dishonesty, in this case.  He chose to believe, and exploit something that wasn't true.

If the story is true, Kerry is dead.

[Pollwatch99]

Kerry just used up the last of his 9 lives

[J. J.]

MSNBC is reporting it.  The DoD believes the explosives were removed (with Russian assistence) prior to the start of the war.  There may be pictures.

Kerry made the claim, without proof, that the explosives were looted; he then exploited it, even making a commecial about it.  The truth looks like that the explosives were not looted.  This could be another example of KERRY'S INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY!

[khirkhib]

Jury is still out on this one.

It really sound like the administration is just trying to cover its but because the official spin keeps on changing.  Maybe when I see the pictures of it being trasnported out I'll believe but as for now.

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Mohammed al-Sharaa, who heads the science ministry's site monitoring department and worked with UN weapons inspectors under Saddam, said "it is impossible that these materials could have been taken from this site before the regime's fall."

He said he and other officials had been ordered a month earlier to insure that "not even a shred of paper left the sites."

"The officials that were inside this facility (Al-Qaqaa) beforehand confirm that not even a shred of paper left it before the fall and I spoke to them about it and they even issued certified statements to this effect which the US-led coalition was aware of."


http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=31993

[Pollwatch99]

If Russia moved them it was because they were banned weapons and they didn't want them tracked to them.  So, Mr. Kerry would you like to criticize the UN for allowing IRAQ to continue to have banned weapons instead of criticizing Bush and out miltary commanders for not getting to them fast enough.  So much for the global test.

[A18]

Alright, that's it! Where did this "intellectual dishonesty" stuff originate?!

Just say LIE. Much easier.

[Pollwatch99]

Jury is still out on this one.

Mohammed al-Sharaa, who heads the science ministry's site monitoring department and worked with UN weapons inspectors under Saddam, said "it is impossible that these materials could have been taken from this site before the regime's fall."

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=31993

Cool, so you want to join the Kerry bandwagon also. Let's trust the UN without proof and distrust our miltary despite the proof. 

I hope we spend the next 5 days discussing the creditibility of UN Weapons Inspectors who let a mass murder and dictator keep dangerous weapons.  Gee, what an impressive start, let's hear from the inspectors who really blundered and are blaming the Bush adminstration from not getting to the weapons quick enough.  Our miltary moved more distance in a shorter point in time than any time in history. 

[J. J.]

Alright, that's it! Where did this "intellectual dishonesty" stuff originate?!

Just say LIE. Much easier.

I'm entirely too polite to say that.

Kerry's intellectual dishonesty much better describes him overall.  It shows not only dishonesty but his inability to think through the issues and to make judgments based on the facts.  It also illustrates Kerry's inabilitity to be consistent and his lack of core values, overall.

[J. J.]

Jury is still out on this one.

It really sound like the administration is just trying to cover its but because the official spin keeps on changing.  Maybe when I see the pictures of it being trasnported out I'll believe but as for now.

The story was fishy from the start, but a satellite image of trucks around the bunkers would be icing on the cake! 

The story was fishy from the start, as I've posted.  Too much weight to be easily smuggled out.  It's likely that the troops securing the area would have noticed the seals.  The US Army traffic on the road would make it hard to get 40 truckloads of material out of there; certainly, three or four women didn't smuggle 360 metric tons out under a burka!

[Silent Hunter]

Yep. Jury's still out on this one. We can't be sure when it was stolen.

I'll wait for confirmation from other sources.

If true, the fat lady can start warming up.

Slate's questions on the whole story:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2108771/

[Pollwatch99]

Yep. Jury's still out on this one. We can't be sure when it was stolen.

I'll wait for confirmation from other sources.

She is signing now.  You are wise enough to know that we don't know.  I understand Kerry is still running his ad.  I know, it hasn't been proven but I'd counter Kerry really hard for his jumping to a postion.

Kerry willing to accept the word of the UN without proof.  Kerry unwilling to accept the word of the US even with proof.

[Silent Hunter]

Yep. Jury's still out on this one. We can't be sure when it was stolen.

I'll wait for confirmation from other sources.

She is signing now.  You are wise enough to know that we don't know.  I understand Kerry is still running his ad.  I know, it hasn't been proven but I'd counter Kerry really hard for his jumping to a postion.

Kerry willing to accept the word of the UN without proof.  Kerry unwilling to accept the word of the US even with proof.

Surely she's singing, not singing?

[Pollwatch99]

Yep. Jury's still out on this one. We can't be sure when it was stolen.

I'll wait for confirmation from other sources.

She is signing now.  You are wise enough to know that we don't know.  I understand Kerry is still running his ad.  I know, it hasn't been proven but I'd counter Kerry really hard for his jumping to a postion.

Kerry willing to accept the word of the UN without proof.  Kerry unwilling to accept the word of the US even with proof.

Surely she's singing, not singing?

yes singing

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Yep. Jury's still out on this one. We can't be sure when it was stolen.

I'll wait for confirmation from other sources.

She is signing now.  You are wise enough to know that we don't know.  I understand Kerry is still running his ad.  I know, it hasn't been proven but I'd counter Kerry really hard for his jumping to a postion.

Kerry willing to accept the word of the UN without proof.  Kerry unwilling to accept the word of the US even with proof.

Surely she's singing, not singing?

yes singing

Just don't check the news, or read my sig.

[khirkhib]

Oh Bush has never run to a conclusion.  In this no matter how you look at it somebody in the whitehouse screwed up.  And right now they have given 10 different messages so you have to know that somebody in the white house is lying to you.

[J. J.]

Oh Bush has never run to a conclusion.  In this no matter how you look at it somebody in the whitehouse screwed up.  And right now they have given 10 different messages so you have to know that somebody in the white house is lying to you.

There are some problems with this, aside from the longistics, that the pictures jfool has on his sig are from an area that was within the security of an encampment of the 101 Airborne.

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Oh Bush has never run to a conclusion.  In this no matter how you look at it somebody in the whitehouse screwed up.  And right now they have given 10 different messages so you have to know that somebody in the white house is lying to you.

There are some problems with this, aside from the longistics, that the pictures jfool has on his sig are from an area that was within the security of an encampment of the 101 Airborne.

You guys lost.

[J. J.]

Oh Bush has never run to a conclusion.  In this no matter how you look at it somebody in the whitehouse screwed up.  And right now they have given 10 different messages so you have to know that somebody in the white house is lying to you.

There are some problems with this, aside from the longistics, that the pictures jfool has on his sig are from an area that was within the security of an encampment of the 101 Airborne.

You guys lost.

No, that is an admission that we won.  There is circumstantial evidence that the explosives were moved prior to the start.  You have failed because you cannot produce even circumstantial evidence that they were there.

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Oh Bush has never run to a conclusion.  In this no matter how you look at it somebody in the whitehouse screwed up.  And right now they have given 10 different messages so you have to know that somebody in the white house is lying to you.

There are some problems with this, aside from the longistics, that the pictures jfool has on his sig are from an area that was within the security of an encampment of the 101 Airborne.

You guys lost.

No, that is an admission that we won.  There is circumstantial evidence that the explosives were moved prior to the start.  You have failed because you cannot produce even circumstantial evidence that they were there.

Inspectors say HMX.
It had IAEA seals.
All lost because of Bush's decision to invade Iraq.

Spin spin spin.

[J. J.]

Inspectors say HMX.
It had IAEA seals.
All lost because of Bush's decision to invade Iraq.

Spin spin spin.

Spunout and flop flop floppppped! 

How did they move the explosives?  Did some Iraqi women hide it under thier burkas?

Why don't you answer the question?