The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature

[Yelnoc]

Very good.  I'll have to add the Marijuana tax to the list.

I'm going to try and focus on the budget project until it is over with but if anyone has a bill please propose it (if you aren't a legislator shoot me a PM and I'll sponsor it).

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I've been very busy lately, but I should have time to commit to the budget project after the weekend is over.

[Dancing with Myself]

Thanks to everyone for passing the bill

[Yelnoc]

     I've been very busy lately, but I should have time to commit to the budget project after the weekend is over.

Same here.  I seem to have enough time to pop in on this site every now and again but not enough to work.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I've been very busy lately, but I should have time to commit to the budget project after the weekend is over.

Same here.  I seem to have enough time to pop in on this site every now and again but not enough to work.

     Same here. I browse this site to keep sane in the middle of reading about old Welsh sots.

[Yelnoc]

Proposed for Emperor PiT

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I haven't read any of these laws but, judging by the names, most of them can safely go.  Any thoughts?

Also, if anyone wants to do for our revenues like I did for our expenses over in the Budget Committee thread I would be very appreciative.  I'm going to be in and out for a while again.

[Dancing with Myself]

would someone post links to these laws?

Yes, I would like to see what the laws are about before I can vote

[Associate Justice PiT]

-Southeast Forum Elite Conspiracy Initiative, superseded by the Disbanding of Forum Elite Conspiracy Research Committee Initiative.
-Southeast Treasurer Position Creation Initiative, superseded by the Elimination of the Position of Southeast Treasurer Initiative.
-Ballot Editing Initiative, invalid for reasons explicated within the link & also partially superseded by a later amendment anyway.
-Speling Corectshun Act OR, Making Sure Nobody Makes any Jokes About Us Act, superseded by the Act to Effect the Process of Restoration of Normality in the Southeastern Region, No. 2.
-Initiative to Restore the Intent of the Founders, superseded by the Restore the Revolution Act.
-Amendment to the Abortion Initiative, superseded by the Unborn Child Protection Act.

[Mr. Taft Republican]

Seeing the laws, its clear they're already repealed, so do we need an act to get them off the books?

[Associate Justice PiT]

Seeing the laws, its clear they're already repealed, so do we need an act to get them off the books?

     The problem is that they have only been repealed implicitly, not explicitly. Tradition has been to leave such laws under the "passed initiatives" section, which gums it up with unnecessary entries.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I believe that some of the acts should remain in law and some should be repealed...for instance, I believe that we should have a secertary of the treasury...with the one strike your out act, I believe that the content of the bill should remain in law but the title could change...initiative to restore intent of fouders...I don't think it is the intent of the founders, I believe that bill is the intent of those that lead the legislature...I do not support the region being known as the "dirty south"...what is so dirty about us? I think the region should be known simply as the southeast region...another comment (this ones a question) was the southeast forum elite conspiracy initiative just put in place for something at the current time?...did it have any long term effects?...

     They're not in law, however. Those are all laws that are no longer in force. Of course we could discuss bringing them back, which would involve repealing the laws that superseded them.

     As for the Forum Elite Conspiracy, I know very little about it, except that it was a major issue in Atlasia back in 2005-2006. You'd have to ask somebody who was involved in Atlasia during that time.

[Dancing with Myself]

I support eliminating all of these except the voting act, which should not be eliminated, because the voter's right should not be tampered with

[Associate Justice PiT]

I support eliminating all of these except the voting act, which should not be eliminated, because the voter's right should not be tampered with

     As the notes in the link specify, it would require an amendment to actually enact the provisions of that initiative, so we might as well eliminate the initiative anyway. No matter what we do, it's useless in its current state.

     I'd suggest giving the responsibility to the Emperor, Viceroy, Attorney General, or Judicial Overlord as any of them see fit, since leaving it with one very specific office alters someone's right to vote based on whether the relevant authority happens to be online at the time. This helps reduce it. Also, I would note that currently voters have an hour after they vote to edit their ballot in all regional elections.

     This brings up another thought that I had recently, which is to change the amendment procedure to mandate that any amendment proposed first be approved by the Legislature. It seems quite odd to me that the Legislature currently plays no role in passing amendments.

[Yelnoc]

As PiT explicitly noted, every single one of those laws have been superseded.  Their only remaining function is taking up bandwith.  I don't see why we should keep any of them around.

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Sounds good, I will propose that in bill format after we vote on the current proposal.  Taft, I'm ready to vote whenever tb75 and GPORTER are.

[Yelnoc]

As PiT explicitly noted, every single one of those laws have been superseded.  Their only remaining function is taking up bandwith.  I don't see why we should keep any of them around.

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Sounds good, I will propose that in bill format after we vote on the current proposal.  Taft, I'm ready to vote whenever tb75 and GPORTER are.

Yes I'm ready 2 vote...not sayin how I will vote yet...but Mr. Speaker don't get angry if I vote in the negative lol...

You could always proofread before posting.  And we're not texting, laddy.

[Associate Justice PiT]

As PiT explicitly noted, every single one of those laws have been superseded.  Their only remaining function is taking up bandwith.  I don't see why we should keep any of them around.

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Sounds good, I will propose that in bill format after we vote on the current proposal.  Taft, I'm ready to vote whenever tb75 and GPORTER are.

     Though the point of my comment is that proposing it in bill format does nothing currently. I suppose it's good to start on doing it in such a fashion, for symbolic reasons.

[Dancing with Myself]

I support eliminating all of these except the voting act, which should not be eliminated, because the voter's right should not be tampered with

     As the notes in the link specify, it would require an amendment to actually enact the provisions of that initiative, so we might as well eliminate the initiative anyway. No matter what we do, it's useless in its current state.

     I'd suggest giving the responsibility to the Emperor, Viceroy, Attorney General, or Judicial Overlord as any of them see fit, since leaving it with one very specific office alters someone's right to vote based on whether the relevant authority happens to be online at the time. This helps reduce it. Also, I would note that currently voters have an hour after they vote to edit their ballot in all regional elections.

     This brings up another thought that I had recently, which is to change the amendment procedure to mandate that any amendment proposed first be approved by the Legislature. It seems quite odd to me that the Legislature currently plays no role in passing amendments.

Oh, i'm ready to vote then

[Mr. Taft Republican]

Sorry, late day, this bill is now available for voting.

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[Yelnoc]

Aye.

[Dancing with Myself]

Aye

[Mr. Taft Republican]

The bill is unanimously approved, up for signature!

[Associate Justice PiT]

     On the End To Superseded And Unenforceable Laws Gumming Up The Books Act: by the powers vested in me as Emperor of this region, I thus sign it into law.

     Be it resolved, X Emperor PiT

[Associate Justice PiT]

     On the issue of the postulated amendment, here's my idea: we 1) allow the Legislature to propose an amendment, which will then go to a region-wide vote & pass with 2/3rds voting in the affirmative, or 2) allow the Emperor, Viceroy, or any three private citizens propose an amendment, which will then go to a region-wide vote & pass with 3/4ths voting in the affirmative. How does that sound?

[Yelnoc]

Option 1 sounds good.  I'll edit this with a proposal in a sec.

[Yelnoc]

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I'm sure this could use some editing but I got to go.