WinDis Polls - 1: Abortion

[k-onmmunist]

Though ben's reputation has just gone up in my eyes.

I'm surprised so many people thought I was pro-life.

I don't know... I mean, aren't most Jews pro-life? Or is it just Christians?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I don't know... I mean, aren't most Jews pro-life? Or is it just Christians?

Christians, although I disagree even with that generalization.  Reform Jews, at least, are decidedly liberal, economically and socially.

[k-onmmunist]

I don't know... I mean, aren't most Jews pro-life? Or is it just Christians?

Christians, although I disagree even with that generalization.  Reform Jews, at least, are decidedly liberal, economically and socially.

Plus, alot of otherwise socially liberal people in America are against abortion. Given your social score, I just thought you'd be pro-life.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

While I agree with the premise that if a fetus is not human being, then there should be no restrictions on whether a fetus may be terminated, there is no objective way of determining that a fetus is not a human being.  Given a particular set of subjective standards for being human, it is possible to objectively determine if that standard is met.

Since the standard for being a human being is subjective, it follows that setting that standard is a legislative function of government (unless one is an anarchist who believes that there should not be any such thing as government).

That is my objection to Roe v. Wade and its successor decisions.  They treat a legislative (i.e., subjective)  matter as if it were judicial (i.e., objective).

 Good luck getting people to realize that their position on abortion (or any other issue, really) is not inherently & objectively the just & correct position to hold.

I don't expect my argument to sway the zealots on either side.  Still it is the one I will hold to.

[canadian1]

Very pro-life, but socially liberal on every other issue.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Though ben's reputation has just gone up in my eyes.

I'm surprised so many people thought I was pro-life.

Could be because you are an extreme authoritarian on every other issue.

I don't know... I mean, aren't most Jews pro-life? Or is it just Christians?

Christians, although I disagree even with that generalization.  Reform Jews, at least, are decidedly liberal, economically and socially.

Plus, alot of otherwise socially liberal people in America are against abortion.

Uh, no.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I don't know... I mean, aren't most Jews pro-life? Or is it just Christians?

Christians, although I disagree even with that generalization.  Reform Jews, at least, are decidedly liberal, economically and socially.

Plus, alot of otherwise socially liberal people in America are against abortion. Given your social score, I just thought you'd be pro-life.

     As I've found, Social PM score does a surprisingly poor job of predicting one's opinion of abortion.

[true liberty]

does anyone wanna guess my position?

[paul718]

does anyone wanna guess my position?

Based on...??

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Well his username is "true liberty", so I'm guessing pro-life.

[Joe Republic]

Well his username is "true liberty", so I'm guessing pro-life.

You never give up, do you? 

[k-onmmunist]

Well his username is "true liberty", so I'm guessing pro-life.choice.

[segwaystyle2012]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

     In other words our euphemisms for policy positions are imperfect.

[segwaystyle2012]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

     In other words our euphemisms for policy positions are imperfect.

I don't consider pro-abortionists anything more than anti-life, really. Pro-choice is a euphemism but pro-life is a more proper term for what we do consider pro-life.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

     In other words our euphemisms for policy positions are imperfect.

I don't consider pro-abortionists anything more than anti-life, really. Pro-choice is a euphemism but pro-life is a more proper term for what we do consider pro-life.

     Good for you. Just don't expect to convince anyone of the correctness of your position by telling them that the alternative is "anti-life" & that your position is really "pro-choice" as well.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

     In other words our euphemisms for policy positions are imperfect.

I don't consider pro-abortionists anything more than anti-life, really. Pro-choice is a euphemism but pro-life is a more proper term for what we do consider pro-life.

     Good for you. Just don't expect to convince anyone of the correctness of your position by telling them that the alternative is "anti-life" & that your position is really "pro-choice" as well.

But segwaystyle is 100% correct. The pro-life position is also the 'pro-choice' position.

Support for abortion-on-demand is pro-death and anti-life.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Pro-choice.

[Scam of God]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

     In other words our euphemisms for policy positions are imperfect.

I don't consider pro-abortionists anything more than anti-life, really. Pro-choice is a euphemism but pro-life is a more proper term for what we do consider pro-life.

     Good for you. Just don't expect to convince anyone of the correctness of your position by telling them that the alternative is "anti-life" & that your position is really "pro-choice" as well.

But segwaystyle is 100% correct. The pro-life position is also the 'pro-choice' position.

Support for abortion-on-demand is pro-death and anti-life.

Just like support for the Catholic Church is support for paedophilia.

[HappyWarrior]

Moderate/Pro-life.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Moderate/Pro-life.

At least you are a consistent liberal.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

     In other words our euphemisms for policy positions are imperfect.

I don't consider pro-abortionists anything more than anti-life, really. Pro-choice is a euphemism but pro-life is a more proper term for what we do consider pro-life.

     Good for you. Just don't expect to convince anyone of the correctness of your position by telling them that the alternative is "anti-life" & that your position is really "pro-choice" as well.

But segwaystyle is 100% correct. The pro-life position is also the 'pro-choice' position.

Support for abortion-on-demand is pro-death and anti-life.

     In your final vocabulary, not mine. Quit pretending that your views can be generalized to other people, please.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

     In other words our euphemisms for policy positions are imperfect.

I don't consider pro-abortionists anything more than anti-life, really. Pro-choice is a euphemism but pro-life is a more proper term for what we do consider pro-life.

     Good for you. Just don't expect to convince anyone of the correctness of your position by telling them that the alternative is "anti-life" & that your position is really "pro-choice" as well.

But segwaystyle is 100% correct. The pro-life position is also the 'pro-choice' position.

Support for abortion-on-demand is pro-death and anti-life.

     In your final vocabulary, not mine. Quit pretending that your views can be generalized to other people, please.

This is universal truth, not just 'my' views.

[useful idiot]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

     In other words our euphemisms for policy positions are imperfect.

I don't consider pro-abortionists anything more than anti-life, really. Pro-choice is a euphemism but pro-life is a more proper term for what we do consider pro-life.

     Good for you. Just don't expect to convince anyone of the correctness of your position by telling them that the alternative is "anti-life" & that your position is really "pro-choice" as well.

But segwaystyle is 100% correct. The pro-life position is also the 'pro-choice' position.

Support for abortion-on-demand is pro-death and anti-life.

Just like support for the Catholic Church is support for paedophilia.

With all due respect, i don't see what's wrong with paedophilia....i mean, as long as the child is happy with it....

I don't know whether this is trolling or just disgusting...

[Associate Justice PiT]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

     In other words our euphemisms for policy positions are imperfect.

I don't consider pro-abortionists anything more than anti-life, really. Pro-choice is a euphemism but pro-life is a more proper term for what we do consider pro-life.

     Good for you. Just don't expect to convince anyone of the correctness of your position by telling them that the alternative is "anti-life" & that your position is really "pro-choice" as well.

But segwaystyle is 100% correct. The pro-life position is also the 'pro-choice' position.

Support for abortion-on-demand is pro-death and anti-life.

     In your final vocabulary, not mine. Quit pretending that your views can be generalized to other people, please.

This is universal truth, not just 'my' views.

     Universal truth is a theistic notion. I have no interest in such wares.