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« on: February 27, 2010, 12:49:47 AM »

I have worked cheek-by-jowl alongside African-Americans for nearly four years now, and appealing to their victim complex and paranoia is a very smart (though cynical) strategy.  There are many otherwise sensible blacks who believe that the HIV-AIDS virus was hatched in an apartheid-era Africaaner lab with the intent of infecting as many black people as possible with the hope of eventually wiping them out.  That is only one of many conspiracy theories flourishing within the black community.  Given this backdrop, I would be very much surprised if the proponents of this strategy do not succeed as well as I think they could:

To Court Blacks, Foes of Abortion Make Racial Case

By SHAILA DEWAN
Published: February 26, 2010

 
ATLANTA — For years the largely white staff of Georgia Right to Life, the state’s largest anti-abortion group, tried to tackle the disproportionately high number of black women who undergo abortions. But, staff members said, they found it difficult to make inroads with black audiences.

So in 2009, the group took money that it normally used for advertising a pregnancy hot line and hired a black woman, Catherine Davis, to be its minority outreach coordinator.

Ms. Davis traveled to black churches and colleges around the state, delivering the message that abortion is the primary tool in a decades-old conspiracy to kill off blacks.

The idea resonated, said Nancy Smith, the executive director.

“We were shocked when we spent less money and had more phone calls” to the hot line, Ms. Smith said.

This month, the group expanded its reach, making national news with 80 billboards around Atlanta that proclaim, “Black children are an endangered species,” and a Web site, www.toomanyaborted.com.

Across the country, the anti-abortion movement, long viewed as almost exclusively white and Republican, is turning its attention to African-Americans and encouraging black abortion opponents across the country to become more active.

A new documentary, written and directed by Mark Crutcher, a white abortion opponent in Denton, Tex., meticulously traces what it says are connections among slavery, Nazi-style eugenics, birth control and abortion, and is being regularly screened by black organizations.

Black abortion opponents, who sometimes refer to abortions as “womb lynchings,” have mounted a sustained attack on the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, spurred by a sting operation by young white conservatives who taped Planned Parenthood employees welcoming donations specifically for aborting black children.

“What’s giving it momentum is blacks are finally figuring out what’s going down,” said Johnny M. Hunter, a black pastor and longtime abortion opponent in Fayetteville, N.C. “The game changes when blacks get involved. And in the pro-life movement, a lot of the groups that have been ignored for years, they’re now getting galvanized.”

The factors fueling the focus on black women — an abortion rate far higher than that of other races and the ties between the effort to legalize and popularize birth control and eugenics — are, at heart, old news. But they have been given exaggerated new life by the Internet, slick repackaging, high production values and money, like the more than $20,000 that Georgia Right to Life invested in the billboards.

Data from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that black women get almost 40 percent of the country’s abortions, even though blacks make up only 13 percent of the population. Nearly 40 percent of black pregnancies end in induced abortion, a rate far higher than for white or Hispanic women.
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2010, 12:53:47 AM »

Horay for racialist stupidity.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2010, 12:59:03 AM »

It would be nice if pro-lifers also promoted contraception among the black community, perhaps by making it hip and cool.
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2010, 12:59:55 AM »

So? It's accurate. Many of abortion's earliest advocates were big time racists, and abortion has had a devastating impact on the black community.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2010, 01:07:45 AM »

It would be nice if pro-lifers also promoted contraception among the black community, perhaps by making it hip and cool.

Yeah, you can have T-Pain, Kanye and Beyonce in it.  A really nice production budget.  Lots of lights, banging music and ladies shaking it. Trojan-enz needs an ad man, you know.


Pardon me, your post was condescending.
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 01:15:33 AM »

It would be nice if pro-lifers also promoted contraception among the black community, perhaps by making it hip and cool.

Yeah, you can have T-Pain, Kanye and Beyonce in it.  A really nice production budget.  Lots of lights, banging music and ladies shaking it. Trojan-enz needs an ad man, you know.

Great idea.

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I'm sorry if it seemed that way, but I was being serious and wanted to add to what was written in the article.
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2010, 01:17:38 AM »

     What's new? Most people will believe in something off the wall.
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2010, 01:30:06 AM »

It would be nice if pro-lifers also promoted contraception among the black community, perhaps by making it hip and cool.

Yeah, you can have T-Pain, Kanye and Beyonce in it.  A really nice production budget.  Lots of lights, banging music and ladies shaking it. Trojan-enz needs an ad man, you know.

Great idea.

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Yes, let's appeal to the Schwarze's superior sense of style because un-hip, intelligent arguments won't stick....
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2010, 01:44:55 AM »

It would be nice if pro-lifers also promoted contraception among the black community, perhaps by making it hip and cool.

Yeah, you can have T-Pain, Kanye and Beyonce in it.  A really nice production budget.  Lots of lights, banging music and ladies shaking it. Trojan-enz needs an ad man, you know.

Great idea.

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I'm sorry if it seemed that way, but I was being serious and wanted to add to what was written in the article.

Yes, let's appeal to the Schwarze's superior sense of style because un-hip, intelligent arguments won't stick....

I'm not saying that un-hip arguments won't work, I'm saying that hip style should also be used to promote birth control since that might create more success in reducing the number of abortions performed on black women.
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2010, 02:00:52 AM »
« Edited: February 27, 2010, 02:05:44 AM by MK rep NC »

This is why I cringe when i hear white posters ( or posters on atlas in general) try to debate or mention black issues.    Bigotry is soon to follow.
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2010, 02:02:29 AM »

It would be nice if pro-lifers also promoted contraception among the black community, perhaps by making it hip and cool.

Yeah, you can have T-Pain, Kanye and Beyonce in it.  A really nice production budget.  Lots of lights, banging music and ladies shaking it. Trojan-enz needs an ad man, you know.

Great idea.

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I'm sorry if it seemed that way, but I was being serious and wanted to add to what was written in the article.

Yes, let's appeal to the Schwarze's superior sense of style because un-hip, intelligent arguments won't stick....

I'm not saying that un-hip arguments won't work, I'm saying that hip style should also be used to promote birth control since that might create more success in reducing the number of abortions performed on black women.

I'm assuming your racism is unintentional.
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2010, 02:08:13 AM »

It would be nice if pro-lifers also promoted contraception among the black community, perhaps by making it hip and cool.

Yeah, you can have T-Pain, Kanye and Beyonce in it.  A really nice production budget.  Lots of lights, banging music and ladies shaking it. Trojan-enz needs an ad man, you know.

Great idea.

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I'm sorry if it seemed that way, but I was being serious and wanted to add to what was written in the article.

Yes, let's appeal to the Schwarze's superior sense of style because un-hip, intelligent arguments won't stick....

I'm not saying that un-hip arguments won't work, I'm saying that hip style should also be used to promote birth control since that might create more success in reducing the number of abortions performed on black women.

I'm assuming your racism is unintentional.

I wasn't trying to sound racist. I also would suggest making contraception seem cool among all young people regardless of race.
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2010, 02:15:04 AM »

Far as the issue of abortions in the black community - if you cant attain the means or don't have them to care for a child then i see nothing wrong with the abortions.  We already make up most the the unemployed in this country, and theres no need in bring a child into this waste land of nothing ( if you are already poor).   

Certain animals will forgo having its young if the conditions are not suitable.   Not comparing people to animals, but just pointing out nature.

I know some will say " use a condom"  " don't have one to start with"   blah blah.     Hey sh**t happens people.
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2010, 02:15:33 AM »

One can just imagine how many more criminals that we'd have if that many more unwanted babies were born.
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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2010, 02:18:05 AM »

Far as the issue of abortions in the black community - if you cant attain the means or don't have them to care for a child then i see nothing wrong with the abortions.  We already make up most the the unemployed in this country, and theres no need in bring a child into this waste land of nothing ( if you are already poor).    

Certain animals will forgo having its young if the conditions are not suitable.   Not comparing people to animals, but just pointing nature.

I know some will say " use a condom"  " don't have one to start with"   blah blah.     Hey sh**t happens people.

So, though you said you didn't, you basically did just equate your own race of human beings to animals. Do you think it is okay to kill one's children solely as matter of utility?
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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2010, 02:19:12 AM »

One can just imagine how many more criminals that we'd have if that many more unwanted babies were born.


This is a bigoted remark, but in all honesty true.

Being born into a world of poverty does that to you.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2010, 02:23:49 AM »
« Edited: February 27, 2010, 02:28:28 AM by MK rep NC »

Far as the issue of abortions in the black community - if you cant attain the means or don't have them to care for a child then i see nothing wrong with the abortions.  We already make up most the the unemployed in this country, and theres no need in bring a child into this waste land of nothing ( if you are already poor).   

Certain animals will forgo having its young if the conditions are not suitable.   Not comparing people to animals, but just pointing nature.

I know some will say " use a condom"  " don't have one to start with"   blah blah.     Hey sh**t happens people.

So, though you said you didn't, you basically did just equate your own race of human beings to animals. Do you think it is okay to kill one's children solely as matter of utility?


I think its the mothers right to chose if she wants the fetus/child/ whatever you want to call it at that stage brought into this world.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2010, 04:36:09 AM »

Far as the issue of abortions in the black community - if you cant attain the means or don't have them to care for a child then i see nothing wrong with the abortions.  We already make up most the the unemployed in this country, and theres no need in bring a child into this waste land of nothing ( if you are already poor).   

Certain animals will forgo having its young if the conditions are not suitable.   Not comparing people to animals, but just pointing nature.

I know some will say " use a condom"  " don't have one to start with"   blah blah.     Hey sh**t happens people.

So, though you said you didn't, you basically did just equate your own race of human beings to animals.

It's always about race, isn't it, you simple-minded prick.

(Goes for many of the same people who promote these conspiracy theories in the black community.)
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2010, 05:51:15 AM »

Far as the issue of abortions in the black community - if you cant attain the means or don't have them to care for a child then i see nothing wrong with the abortions.  We already make up most the the unemployed in this country, and theres no need in bring a child into this waste land of nothing ( if you are already poor).   

Certain animals will forgo having its young if the conditions are not suitable.   Not comparing people to animals, but just pointing nature.

I know some will say " use a condom"  " don't have one to start with"   blah blah.     Hey sh**t happens people.

So, though you said you didn't, you basically did just equate your own race of human beings to animals.

It's always about race, isn't it, you simple-minded prick.

(Goes for many of the same people who promote these conspiracy theories in the black community.)

?  Enlighten me on this assumption?     I don't believe in "conspiracy theories" in the black community , however I do believe inInstitutional racism .
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2010, 06:38:13 AM »

?  Enlighten me on this assumption?     I don't believe in "conspiracy theories" in the black community , however I do believe inInstitutional racism .

I'm mostly referring to the tone in which he writes "you basically did just equate your own race of human beings to animals."  Now, while you may have been addressing the plight of some African Americans in your post, the way this guy read it, you may as well have been decrying the very existence of blacks in the first place.

Language always gives you away.

As for conspiracy theories, I am referencing some of the stuff touched on in the original article, like the idea that legalized abortion is a concerted effort to reduce the number of blacks in society.
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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2010, 07:32:01 AM »

I have to say that this may be the most racist thread ever posted on the forum.
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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2010, 08:30:25 AM »

I have to say that this may be the most racist thread ever posted on the forum.

I had a hand in pushing it towards that direction and for that I apologize.  Roch's comment was just really irritating to me and I responded with a sarcastic caricature.  The intent was to hold a mirror up- it failed or I was trolled??
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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2010, 08:34:41 AM »

One can just imagine how many more criminals that we'd have if that many more unwanted babies were born.

This. I've never understood why 'conservatives' who are supposed to be so concerned with keeping crime down and order maintained are so against abortion.
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2010, 12:11:16 PM »

So let's suppose that the pro-life movement succeeds in galvanizing an anti-abortion movement within key racial and ethnic constituencies within the Democratic Party (e.g. African-Americans, Hispanics, Native Americans, etc.) -how would that affect the party as a whole?  What would be the ramifications of a newly active socially conservative wing within the party?  
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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2010, 01:09:12 PM »

I thought this thread was about Trent Franks' recent comments.
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