"Start over on healthcare reform?"

[pbrower2a]

I have seen one stock phrase emanate from Republicans on healthcare reform:

"Start over".

Such would be political suicide for President Obama, the dream of the GOP, and the chance for the GOP to have control of government as complete as that of a Commie, Fascist, or Ba'ath party for an indefinite time. Think about it: the House and Senate both voted for it, and Reconciliation  is a legitimate process. Starting over would require that President Obama veto legislation that he introduced and promoted -- erratic behavior that would ensure his defeat in 2012. Such would obviate any "need" for Republicans to win a majority in 2010 to make possible a repeal of healthcare reform in favor of the preferred choice of Republicans -- that if one gets a costly ailment and doesn't have adequate profits-first insurance one DIES.

[Mr.Phips]

"Starting over" is just another term for killing healthcare reform.  Obama simply has to pass a bill.  Even if it takes doing it in the lame duck session at the end of the year.  The base would never forgive him like they did Clinton.  Enough is enough for the liberal base. 

[21st Century Independent]

At this point, Dems have to go forward. They are between a rock and a hard place with this issue. They may lose congress either way. However, Obama has to be looking to 2012 with this crucial decision.

[Derek]

Here is my plan:

1. restrict preexisting conditions that can be used against lower rates
2. possibly raise the age of dependency to 25 (that is the invincible age group though)
3. allow companies to compete anywhere in the U.S.
4. health or medical savings accounts that work like social security or medicare

Tell Obama I just wrote that plan on my hand and it's better than his 2,500 page death to freedom book that is longer than the Bible and the U.S. constitution.

[© tweed]

"hopeless reactionaries" (emphasis added)

[Хahar 🤔]

Here is my plan:

1. restrict preexisting conditions that can be used against lower rates
2. possibly raise the age of dependency to 25 (that is the invincible age group though)
3. allow companies to compete anywhere in the U.S.
4. health or medical savings accounts that work like social security or medicare

Tell Obama I just wrote that plan on my hand and it's better than his 2,500 page death to freedom book that is longer than the Bible and the U.S. constitution.

Appeal to Brevity

[ARescan]

No Insurance=Cheaper Health Care

Health care is not the same as auto care. Without health insurance, hospitals would have to compete against each other, thus lowering the costs of procedures.

[milhouse24]

No Insurance=Cheaper Health Care

Health care is not the same as auto care. Without health insurance, hospitals would have to compete against each other, thus lowering the costs of procedures.

Govt run "non-profit" health care is really the only solution.  No more publicly-traded for-profit HMO's.  If you have a problem with the health care, call up your congressman!  He's far more responsible than a CEO. 

Health Care is far more important than utilities and deregulation of utilities only ended up with more fraud, enron, and blackouts. 

The Free Market is for non-essential goods, only the govt should provide stable life-saving services.

[Zarn]

We have to start over.

Actually making a god bill is more important than any politician getting re-elected.

[Poundingtherock]

Derek: poor man's teleprompter?

[pbrower2a]

No Insurance=Cheaper Health Care

Health care is not the same as auto care. Without health insurance, hospitals would have to compete against each other, thus lowering the costs of procedures.

Auto insurance is competitive. Homeowners' insurance is competitive. Life insurance is competitive.

I believe that the public option is the right way to deal with the basic needs of insurance, including "pre-existing conditions" like gout, asthma, diabetes (a huge medical cost), and lupus --  and catastrophic circumstances, but excluding occupational risks (should be passed onto the consumer) and bad habits (alcohol and cancerweed). If you smoke or drink you should reasonably have to pay more because such behavior is a choice.

Social security did not kill the life-insurance industry, and Medicare did not kill the medical insurance industry.  Maybe the public option must have a high deductible but cover preventive care.   

Health insurance companies could sell supplemental, "luxury" coverage, including coverage for risky occupations (employers should pay more for high-risk occupations such as coal mining)  and for low-deductible supplements.

 

[California8429]

No Insurance=Cheaper Health Care

Health care is not the same as auto care. Without health insurance, hospitals would have to compete against each other, thus lowering the costs of procedures.

and also=you are screwed if you need a huge operation and have no money