Opinion of the Firearms (Amendment) (No.2) Act, 1997

[k-onmmunist]

Horrible, horrible and ridiculous law. I'm glad my MP voted against it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_(Amendment)_(No._2)_Act_1997

[Franzl]

Senseless

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Don't really care. Its an interesting example of how popular pressure can result in legislative change, though. Perhaps also as the culmination of longstanding social and cultural hostility towards firearms.

[dead0man]

Yeah, if they want to be less free, it's their choice.  Not mine. 

Still, a pretty stupid law.

[opebo]

Very nice.  Nice to know that they're so sane over there (though I have to admit most Brits I meet over here are unpleasant right-wing 'earse-holes'.

[Free Palestine]

Horrible law that violates personal liberty.

[Mos Definite]

Pretty bad law, though I'm a gun nut so I'm not being entirely objective.

[Bo]

FL

[Deldem]

I have mixed feelings on this.

On one hand, pistols don't really offer anything that shotguns and rifles don't, so they are unnecessary. On the other hand, it seems like a bit of an excessive restriction. I mean, I'd support the previous bill that banned really high-powered pistols (who really needs a Desert Eagle, honestly?), but these lower strength pistols aren't all that much more dangerous than various other guns that are legal.

Also, if Britain is anything like America, a disproportionate number of gun nuts are also crazy, so maybe it's not such a bad thing...

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Makes me glad to live in the USA, so probably option 3.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

What the heck is the Ebowed option?

[RIP Robert H Bork]

What the heck is the Ebowed option?

You know what Ebowed thinks of gun control.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

What the heck is the Ebowed option?

You know what Ebowed thinks of gun control.

No I don't. Unlike some people, I don't read every thread, and it has been some time since I paid any attention to his position on any specific issue.  I was attracted to this thread more because of unusual title than any fascination with topics about gun control.

[dead0man]

(who really needs a Desert Eagle, honestly?),

Who needs a 500hp car or a $2 million dollar painting or three houses or etc.  Banning things because you don't see a need for them seems a bit authoritarian to me.

[useful idiot]

Ridiculous, like almost all gun control legislation.

[k-onmmunist]

I have mixed feelings on this.

On one hand, pistols don't really offer anything that shotguns and rifles don't, so they are unnecessary. On the other hand, it seems like a bit of an excessive restriction. I mean, I'd support the previous bill that banned really high-powered pistols (who really needs a Desert Eagle, honestly?), but these lower strength pistols aren't all that much more dangerous than various other guns that are legal.

Also, if Britain is anything like America, a disproportionate number of gun nuts are also crazy, so maybe it's not such a bad thing...

1 in 960 people owned a gun in Britain prior to this law.

[k-onmmunist]

What the heck is the Ebowed option?

Ebowed tried to pass a bill in Atlasia banning all guns without even compensating the gun owners. Basically, I put him and the NRA down as the extreme options.

[Free Palestine]

(who really needs a Desert Eagle, honestly?),

Who needs a 500hp car or a $2 million dollar painting or three houses or etc.  Banning things because you don't see a need for them seems a bit authoritarian to me.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Also, if Britain is anything like America, a disproportionate number of gun nuts are also crazy

You can probably count all the gun nuts (who aren't ex-squaddies) in Britain on your right hand. So you're probably right, but that only works out at about three people

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

What the heck is the Ebowed option?

Ebowed tried to pass a bill in Atlasia banning all guns without even compensating the gun owners. Basically, I put him and the NRA down as the extreme options.

It's been quite some time since I even looked at Atlasia, as I just don't have the time to participate on a guaranteed daily basis, so anything that's happened there, I don't know about.  Given it's position in the list, I was thinking the Ebowed option might be more extreme than the NRA, such as that the 2nd Amendment should be interpreted as allowing private ownership of weapons of mass destruction.  While that didn't quite jive with his usual leftist tendencies, the left-right political axis isn't an infallible predictor once one gets to single issues.

[Deldem]

(who really needs a Desert Eagle, honestly?),

Who needs a 500hp car or a $2 million dollar painting or three houses or etc.  Banning things because you don't see a need for them seems a bit authoritarian to me.

But those things don't present the danger that a Desert Eagle would. All I'm saying is that in America at least, I wouldn't cry too much over civilian NRA gun nuts not having a military-grade, high-powered pistol.

Besides, what is the added benefit? With 3 homes, you can spend time in many places. With a 500 hp car, you can drive faster. But what benefit does a stronger gun bring you? You can mow down somebody robbing your house with almost any gun, and you really can't hunt with high-powered pistols, so what added benefit do you get from them?

[dead0man]

Again, just because you can't think of a reason to own something doesn't mean it should be banned.  That's a very dangerous road to go down.

And do you even know what a Desert Eagle is?  It's NOT a gun criminals use.  Too expensive to buy, too expensive to use, not very dependable, not very accurate.  Banning the Desert Eagle is as stupid as Cali banning .50cal sniper rifles. 

These things are not used in crime, but they are big and scary...SO LETS BAN 'EM!

[MK]

Ridiculous, like almost all gun control legislation.

[MK]

Again, just because you can't think of a reason to own something doesn't mean it should be banned.  That's a very dangerous road to go down.

And do you even know what a Desert Eagle is?  It's NOT a gun criminals use.  Too expensive to buy, too expensive to use, not very dependable, not very accurate.  Banning the Desert Eagle is as stupid as Cali banning .50cal sniper rifles. 

These things are not used in crime, but they are big and scary...SO LETS BAN 'EM!

Yes, the desert eagle is actually one of the most heavy and inaccrate pistols ive ever shot. Good luck trying to rob someone with that thing.  You be better off taking it and beating them over the head with it.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Suffice it to say, greatly overstepping the boundaries I would like to see set on government.