Obama/Biden vs. Paul/Johnson

[The Mikado]

Discuss with maps.

[Psychic Octopus]

The core Republican base likely reacts much like their representatives at CPAC, and stay home.

[Lief 🗽]

If Paul is lucky...

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

If Obama is lucky...

[Oakvale]

Paul appeals to a small, radical segment of the population and no-one else. The 'base' stays home, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was strong showing for a right-wing third party in a state like Oklahoma, where Paul would be about as unpalatable as Obama to the evangelical crowd.

EDIT: Give NE-3 to Paul.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Paul appeals to a small, radical segment of the population and no-one else. The 'base' stays home, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was strong showing for a right-wing third party in a state like Oklahoma, where Paul would be about as unpalatable as Obama to the evangelical crowd.

EDIT: Give NE-3 to Paul.

You mean that "small, radical segment of the population" who actually cares about fixing the economy?

[Oakvale]

Paul appeals to a small, radical segment of the population and no-one else. The 'base' stays home, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was strong showing for a right-wing third party in a state like Oklahoma, where Paul would be about as unpalatable as Obama to the evangelical crowd.

EDIT: Give NE-3 to Paul.

You mean that "small, radical segment of the population" who actually cares about fixing the economy?

However you guys define yourself. *shrug*

[California8429]

Paul as long as current trends continue. I wouldn't say Paul would choose a moderate, but he would choose a more conservative big name then libertarian Gary Johnson to balance the ticket

[CatoMinor]

[Conservative frontier]

I stay home, Obama wins by a lot.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I stay home, Obama wins by a lot.

Why do you hate Paul so much? You think Obama is better?

[Eraserhead]

Anyone who seriously believes that Paul would win has no real understanding of American politics.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Anyone who seriously believes that Paul would win has no real understanding of American politics.

You must be living in the past.

[Eraserhead]

Anyone who seriously believes that Paul would win has no real understanding of American politics.

You must be living in the past.

Explain to me how he actually wins.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Anyone who seriously believes that Paul would win has no real understanding of American politics.

You must be living in the past.

Explain to me how he actually wins.

In 2012, the economy is in the toilet and the U.S. is still engulfed in multiple Middle Eastern wars. Obama's corporate healthcare takeover scheme thankfully fails to ever get approval. Ron Paul has been right on the economy and on foreign policy from the beginning. Opposing the Fed and NAFTA wins over working class voters, while his commitment to low taxes and balanced budgets wins over upper-class and fiscal conservative voters.

Being committed to actually ending the perpetual wars against Iraq and Afghanistan makes him the choice of wide swaths of American voters considering Obama has proven himself a warmonger.

After 12 years of unbroken BushBama rule, Americans are craving real change.

[Phony Moderate]

Anyone who seriously believes that Paul would win has no real understanding of American politics.

You must be living in the past.

Explain to me how he actually wins.

In 2012, the economy is in the toilet and the U.S. is still engulfed in multiple Middle Eastern wars. Obama's corporate healthcare takeover scheme thankfully fails to ever get approval. Ron Paul has been right on the economy and on foreign policy from the beginning. Opposing the Fed and NAFTA wins over working class voters, while his commitment to low taxes and balanced budgets wins over upper-class and fiscal conservative voters.

Being committed to actually ending the perpetual wars against Iraq and Afghanistan makes him the choice of wide swaths of American voters considering Obama has proven himself a warmonger.

After 12 years of unbroken BushBama rule, Americans are craving real change.

And you say all that despite the fact that virtually every President (and major party Presidential Nominee) in the last 100 years has been war mongering, pro-Fed, etc. Not to mention that the economy has "been in the toilet" on more than a few occasions. What makes you think that people will want a different approach in 2012?

[Iosif]

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Afghanistan is not the Middle East. But that's the least wrong thing about your post.

[SvenssonRS]

At this point, I feel that any well-known Republican could beat the president. Paul's only real challenge would be getting through the primaries.

[Oakvale]

At this point, I feel that any well-known Republican could beat the president. Paul's only real challenge would be getting through the primaries.

And the fact that his views are batsh**t insane. That might be a challenge, too.

[Zarn]

At this point, I feel that any well-known Republican could beat the president. Paul's only real challenge would be getting through the primaries.

Obama is very closely aligned with the neo-con agenda. If they cannot have one of their own in the GOP, they could jump to the so-called 'liberal' or stay home. I could see them arguing that it would teach the GOP 'establishment' a lesson.

[ej2mm15]

At this point, I feel that any well-known Republican could beat the president. Paul's only real challenge would be getting through the primaries.

And the fact that his views are batsh**t insane. That might be a challenge, too.

[SvenssonRS]

At this point, I feel that any well-known Republican could beat the president. Paul's only real challenge would be getting through the primaries.

And the fact that his views are batsh**t insane. That might be a challenge, too.

No more than John Thune's. I'd still support Johnson over him, I'll grant that.

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