Populares Convention, Feb. 2010

[segwaystyle2012]

I'd like all Populares to read this...


You have just crossed the line. These claims are false and defamatory. You don't deserve the respect of any Atlasians after this post.

My first issue is that you refer to the HAEV as "group of prestigious and respected Atlasians." It is not. I don't care which individuals the HAEV is composed of. It is institutionally biased and you can put ing God on the HAEV and that won't make it any better. The only HAEV member I actually have an issue with is Meeker, whose philosophy is "oh, he makes good posts so he can stay, but he doesn't and was obviously recruited just to vote", which is basically a skewed and subjective mindset that is biased against political dissent. He has no way to determine who was "trucked in just to vote."

Furthermore, your blatant lie that "the people politicizing the HAEV and using it as a "cudgel" are a few members of one party and their stream of recruits" is just wrong and misleading and offensive. The main "creator" of the HAEV introduced an initial list of nominations. You'd have to be the stupidest man alive to not think this entire organization was politically motivated. If Antonio believed there was a legitimate zombie problem, why not weed out the left wing zombies as well? Not that this is just about him, because Meeker doesn't care to assess the qualifications of JCP voters (zombies) anyways. I'd like to point out that the Popular Party had more convention participants than any other single party in Atlasia. We have, hands down, the most active party. It's not about who has zombies or not. It's about the quality of the game. Eliminating people who don't participate regularly is dangerous, not only because it can be used to manipulate elections, but because when only the officeholders and a few others are voting, the coalitions are so tight that elections are foregone conclusions and it eliminates the exciting parts of the game: turnout competition and intense legislative debate. It will be harder to "offend" and even disagree and it will make most elections even more pointless. I also would like to point out that the noise being made is not tied to our party. Our party opposes it but so does the JCP, many Senators who supported it like NC Yankee and tmthforu94 (which is why I voted to endorse him) and even Presiding Officer of the HAEV, Peter Bell. Don't give the Senate your crap.

The idea you offer is that opposition is simply "Libertas, Winston, Giovanni and a stream of obviously recruited trolls." Winfield was registered here in the year 2004. He is an obviously recruited troll? Jamespol is recruited? Badger and Fritz were recruited by the Popular Party?

The HAEV has already started operating. The people don't like what they see. Polls and public debate offer us proof. Of course, the party that comes in a distant 4th may benefit from the HAEV eliminating voters, especially those of conservative leanings. But you don't happen to be a member, do you? Oh wait...

[Badger]

I Nominate Hashemite for HAVE

Wrong thread.

the Cowboys suck. Go Tiatns

Wrong "Dallas".

Finally someone's gotten it right on the first guess. Thank you Badger

You're welcome, but honesty requires me to admit that I only knew because you'd previously mentioned in another thread your screen name refers to the singer of some band (can't remember which one). Otherwise I would've inevitably stooped to some shot about the Cowboys too.

[President Mitt]

[X] tmthforu94 (DA)
[ ] Joe Republic (JCP)
[ ] Al Widdershins (SDP)
[X] None of the Above

I hate to go flippy floppy, but recent events have elevated some issues ahead of others, and I must change my endorsement. I encourage my fellow Populares to do the same.

[ARescan]

[X] tmthforu94 (DA)
[ ] Joe Republic (JCP)
[ ] Al Widdershins (SDP)
[X] None of the Above

I hate to go flippy floppy, but recent events have elevated some issues ahead of others, and I must change my endorsement. I encourage my fellow Populares to do the same.

I will do the same.

[President Mitt]

I'm concerned that our apparent Presidential Candidate is absent.

[segwaystyle2012]

I say we should endorse afleitch if he picks an acceptable running-mate. Duke would be a good choice but other than that I will probably vote the way I previously intended regardless of activity.

[President Mitt]

We should probably redo our presidential endorsement in light of recent events.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Alright, once again, due to recent changes, let us hear what the people of our party prefer with regard to presidential endorsements...

[ ]afleitch/Smid
[ ]Bacon King/Write-In:_______
[ ]SPC/Brandon H
[ ]Xahar/Write-In:_______

[The Age Wave]

Abstain.

[CatoMinor]

Abstain.

[RosettaStoned]

Abstain.

[ARescan]

Abstain.

[Jensen]

Abstain.

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

Abstain.

[SvenssonRS]

Abstain.

[Хahar 🤔]

Me running mate be Al.

[true liberty]

Abstain.

[segwaystyle2012]

I motion to EXPEL JSojourner from the party. Or KeepTheChange. Whoever he is.

[Brandon H]

Though not a member of this party, as I was part of the ticket endorsed by this party, I believe Afleitch and Smid would be the best of the other three choices.

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

We should hold an endorsement vote on the Special election.

[CatoMinor]

We should hold an endorsement vote on the Special election.

Agreed, who all is running?

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

We should hold an endorsement vote on the Special election.

Agreed, who all is running?

RosettaStoned, Al, Bacon King, Happy Warrior, Vepres... I think that's it.

I'm of the opinion that we should all support our own candidate (RosettaStoned) but a convention vote should be made to solidify the decision.

[k-onmmunist]

I concur, and my support goes to RosettaStoned.

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

I think an endorsement vote is needed even more considering sbane, a Populare, has entered the race. There will be stiff competition for this race as is, we need'nt create more for ourselves.

[ARescan]

I motion to EXPEL JSojourner from the party. Or KeepTheChange. Whoever he is.

Second this motion