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« on: January 31, 2010, 02:22:07 PM »
He was a 19th Century theologian and creator of the "Calvinism" theology that dismisses the idea of free will and really hones in on predestination and the "election" of the saints who will go to heaven.

Personally, I will vote FF, though I don't agree with his doctrine in full.  I follow some of his theology, such as the TULIP doctrine, but I believe there is free will.
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2010, 03:10:07 PM »
16th Century, Jeff.  Big difference.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2010, 03:10:20 PM »
Quote from: Determined Voter on January 31, 2010, 02:22:07 PM
He was a 19th Century theologian and creator of the "Calvinism" theology that dismisses the idea of free will and really hones in on predestination and the "election" of the saints who will go to heaven.

Personally, I will vote FF, though I don't agree with his doctrine in full.  I follow some of his theology, such as the TULIP doctrine, but I believe there is free will.

I'd check the history book twice Wink


You beat me to it.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2010, 03:13:52 PM »

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And you're a preacher? Jesus Christ.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2010, 03:25:17 PM »
HP. I dislike Calvinism as much as Catholicism.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2010, 03:25:36 PM »
Cut B.O. some slack, guys.  We all know time moves exceptionally slowly in Oklahoma...
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2010, 05:15:58 PM »
Calvin, 19th century? And you're one to be spreading the word of God to the people? Fantastic, this... Tongue

And HP.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2010, 06:08:41 PM »
FF. Despite disagreeing with him on many things, I think that the fact that Calvinism encouraged hard work (to demonstrate that God chose you to go to Heaven) was a good thing since many Calvinist countries (the Netherlands, Switzerland, etc.) became some of the most prosperous in Europe soon afterwards.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2010, 06:26:26 PM »
Quote from: Governor Swedish Cheese on January 31, 2010, 03:10:20 PM
Quote from: Determined Voter on January 31, 2010, 02:22:07 PM
He was a 19th Century theologian and creator of the "Calvinism" theology that dismisses the idea of free will and really hones in on predestination and the "election" of the saints who will go to heaven.

Personally, I will vote FF, though I don't agree with his doctrine in full.  I follow some of his theology, such as the TULIP doctrine, but I believe there is free will.

I'd check the history book twice Wink


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He beat everybody to it. Anyhow, Calvin was a major HP.
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2010, 06:29:24 PM »
HP. Thanks to, among other things, the fate of Michael Servetus.
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2010, 07:12:58 PM »

Oops!! I stand corrected.  I thought 19th century sounded a bit too modern, LOL!!
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2010, 02:06:29 AM »
I find more cause with Arminius and Wesley if we're talking theology. 
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2010, 09:36:34 AM »
Quote from: afleitch on January 31, 2010, 06:29:24 PM
HP. Thanks to, among other things, the fate of Michael Servetus.
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2010, 10:15:38 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2010, 11:20:27 AM »
Quote from: afleitch on January 31, 2010, 06:29:24 PM
HP. Thanks to, among other things, the fate of Michael Servetus.



This.  The logical result of theocracy, which always ends with murder and blood.  Make no mistake.  Calvin was a soaring intellect and no theological bookshelf is complete without his work which, at times, could actually be quite inspiring and even tender. 

I could actually be quite at home with four of his five points.  But he lost me completely with "limited atonement".  In any regard, HP.
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2010, 12:59:10 AM »
Calvin was undoubtedly a terrible person, but his idea of predestination is fascinating from a theological and philosophical viewpoint.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2010, 03:28:37 AM »
H/P. Even most modern Calvinists are tops a 3 or 4 point Calvinist.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2010, 03:41:13 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2010, 05:21:29 PM »
Huegenots! I've always loved that word.

The man basically caused a civil war in France.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2010, 10:55:52 PM »
HP.

Seriously, how can somebody who created a theocracy like his be anything but?
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