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« on: January 29, 2010, 09:28:06 PM »
« edited: January 29, 2010, 09:37:32 PM by Рошамбо »

I wanted to ask this question since many Republicans and conservatives are against abortion, yet also against birth control and contraception, which prevents abortion. This is a position I have never quite understood. I was just wondering what people's attitudes on birth control and contraception are on this Forum.

As for my views, Yes, I support contraception and birth control.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2010, 09:30:25 PM »

Of course. Those against both birth control and abortion seem to be in denial of the reality that leads to.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2010, 09:44:40 PM »

Of course. Who knew?  Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2010, 09:53:14 PM »

Personally yes for now, but in the long-term, no. Birthrates have fallen dramatically in every Western nation. People in Western nations need to breed more, not less.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2010, 09:55:53 PM »

Personally yes for now, but in the long-term, no. Birthrates have fallen dramatically in every Western nation. People in Western nations need to breed more, not less.

By long term, do you mean after 2050, when much more countries worldwide become developed and have even lower birthrates?
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2010, 09:57:05 PM »

Personally yes for now, but in the long-term, no. Birthrates have fallen dramatically in every Western nation. People in Western nations need to breed more, not less.

By long term, do you mean after 2050, when much more countries worldwide become developed and have even lower birthrates?

No, I mean ASAP, when looking at the bigger picture.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2010, 09:58:09 PM »

Personally yes for now, but in the long-term, no. Birthrates have fallen dramatically in every Western nation. People in Western nations need to breed more, not less.

By long term, do you mean after 2050, when much more countries worldwide become developed and have even lower birthrates?

No, I mean ASAP, when looking at the bigger picture.

Fertility rates worldwide are still above replacement level (about 2.1 children per family).
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2010, 09:59:39 PM »

Personally yes for now, but in the long-term, no. Birthrates have fallen dramatically in every Western nation. People in Western nations need to breed more, not less.

By long term, do you mean after 2050, when much more countries worldwide become developed and have even lower birthrates?

No, I mean ASAP, when looking at the bigger picture.

Fertility rates worldwide are still above replacement level (about 2.1 children per family).

In Third World nations, you mean. That's not a good thing. They could use more birth control and contraception.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2010, 09:59:52 PM »

     Yes. People will have sex anyway, so using birth control is a very good thing to do.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2010, 10:01:07 PM »

Personally yes for now, but in the long-term, no. Birthrates have fallen dramatically in every Western nation. People in Western nations need to breed more, not less.

By long term, do you mean after 2050, when much more countries worldwide become developed and have even lower birthrates?

No, I mean ASAP, when looking at the bigger picture.

Fertility rates worldwide are still above replacement level (about 2.1 children per family).

In Third World nations, you mean. That's not a good thing. They could use more birth control and contraception.

I mean on average worldwide. In third world nations, the fertility rate is higher than the world average, but both fertility rates are above replacement.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2010, 10:01:47 PM »

Personally yes for now, but in the long-term, no. Birthrates have fallen dramatically in every Western nation. People in Western nations need to breed more, not less.

By long term, do you mean after 2050, when much more countries worldwide become developed and have even lower birthrates?

No, I mean ASAP, when looking at the bigger picture.

Fertility rates worldwide are still above replacement level (about 2.1 children per family).

In Third World nations, you mean. That's not a good thing. They could use more birth control and contraception.

I mean on average worldwide. In third world nations, the fertility rate is higher than the world average, but both fertility rates are above replacement.

Not in the U.S. or Europe or Japan....
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2010, 10:02:37 PM »

Personally yes for now, but in the long-term, no. Birthrates have fallen dramatically in every Western nation. People in Western nations need to breed more, not less.

By long term, do you mean after 2050, when much more countries worldwide become developed and have even lower birthrates?

No, I mean ASAP, when looking at the bigger picture.

Fertility rates worldwide are still above replacement level (about 2.1 children per family).

In Third World nations, you mean. That's not a good thing. They could use more birth control and contraception.

I mean on average worldwide. In third world nations, the fertility rate is higher than the world average, but both fertility rates are above replacement.

Not in the U.S. or Europe or Japan....

I know that. I was talking about the whole world at large.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2010, 11:09:24 PM »

Yes.  The more men and women are able to prevent STD transmission and unwanted pregnancies, the better.

This is why, as a male, I support Planned Parenthood.  They provide advice and contraceptives to women so that those women can make their own decisions about sex and having children.

If we can prevent an abortion before the choice is ever forced, I call that a victory.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2010, 11:58:29 PM »

Personally yes for now, but in the long-term, no. Birthrates have fallen dramatically in every Western nation. People in Western nations need to breed more, not less.

That seems to conflict with your libertarian views.  That sounds a bit collectivist.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2010, 11:59:27 PM »

Personally yes for now, but in the long-term, no. Birthrates have fallen dramatically in every Western nation. People in Western nations need to breed more, not less.

That seems to conflict with your libertarian views.  That sounds a bit collectivist.

How so? I don't want our countries to die out.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2010, 12:02:31 AM »

Well at least you've finally given up on your "anarchism".
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2010, 12:47:52 AM »

Countries won't 'die out'. People will have sex without protection. But if you are young and gonna have sex or you dont want to have a kid then protection is good. the dieing out is just bull.
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2010, 01:05:17 AM »

Countries won't 'die out'. People will have sex without protection. But if you are young and gonna have sex or you dont want to have a kid then protection is good. the dieing out is just bull.

Um, if we don't have enough children to replace the workforce, support the retirees, and keep the economy running, this country will be in for a world of hurt.

Red China will colonize North America atop our ruins.
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2010, 01:09:09 AM »

Countries won't 'die out'. People will have sex without protection. But if you are young and gonna have sex or you dont want to have a kid then protection is good. the dieing out is just bull.

Um, if we don't have enough children to replace the workforce, support the retirees, and keep the economy running, this country will be in for a world of hurt.

Red China will colonize North America atop our ruins.

China's population is currently rapidly aging and is projected to begin declining in the 2030s.
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2010, 01:09:57 AM »

Countries won't 'die out'. People will have sex without protection. But if you are young and gonna have sex or you dont want to have a kid then protection is good. the dieing out is just bull.

Um, if we don't have enough children to replace the workforce, support the retirees, and keep the economy running, this country will be in for a world of hurt.

Red China will colonize North America atop our ruins.

China's population is currently rapidly aging and is projected to begin declining in the 2030s.

Um, China's population is already bursting at the seams.
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2010, 01:11:03 AM »

Countries won't 'die out'. People will have sex without protection. But if you are young and gonna have sex or you dont want to have a kid then protection is good. the dieing out is just bull.

Um, if we don't have enough children to replace the workforce, support the retirees, and keep the economy running, this country will be in for a world of hurt.

Red China will colonize North America atop our ruins.

China's population is currently rapidly aging and is projected to begin declining in the 2030s.

Um, China's population is already bursting at the seams.

Then why did you say China will colonize us if we promote contraception and birth control?
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2010, 01:12:01 AM »

Countries won't 'die out'. People will have sex without protection. But if you are young and gonna have sex or you dont want to have a kid then protection is good. the dieing out is just bull.

Um, if we don't have enough children to replace the workforce, support the retirees, and keep the economy running, this country will be in for a world of hurt.

Red China will colonize North America atop our ruins.

China's population is currently rapidly aging and is projected to begin declining in the 2030s.

Um, China's population is already bursting at the seams.

Then why did you say China will colonize us if we promote contraception and birth control?

China will need somewhere for all of its people to go, while the U.S. population will have been in decline.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2010, 01:13:33 AM »

Countries won't 'die out'. People will have sex without protection. But if you are young and gonna have sex or you dont want to have a kid then protection is good. the dieing out is just bull.

Um, if we don't have enough children to replace the workforce, support the retirees, and keep the economy running, this country will be in for a world of hurt.

Red China will colonize North America atop our ruins.
oh please. You ever heard of orphans? There is reason reason as to why. and boy you look at this so oddly. The human race will not die buddy. trust me.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2010, 01:14:07 AM »

Countries won't 'die out'. People will have sex without protection. But if you are young and gonna have sex or you dont want to have a kid then protection is good. the dieing out is just bull.

Um, if we don't have enough children to replace the workforce, support the retirees, and keep the economy running, this country will be in for a world of hurt.

Red China will colonize North America atop our ruins.

China's population is currently rapidly aging and is projected to begin declining in the 2030s.

Um, China's population is already bursting at the seams.

Then why did you say China will colonize us if we promote contraception and birth control?

China will need somewhere for all of its people to go, while the U.S. population will have been in decline.

Even if more people use birth control, I doubt it will have much of an impact on American birthrates as people who don't want their babies after they get preganant just get an abortion, so the babies wouldn't exist either way. Besides, immigration is currently a very large factor in fueling U.S. population growth.
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2010, 02:17:31 AM »

I was thinking about this the other day and there are two different but related issues.

Liberals are looking at just teen birth rates as a problem. Conservatives are looking at sexually active teens as a the first problem and that leads to teens having children which is the second problem. Do those on the left look at sexually active teens being a problem, or is it only a problem if it leads to pregnancy?
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