Obama to propose new limits bank size, "return to the spirit of Glass-Seagall"
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« on: January 20, 2010, 11:29:16 PM »

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704320104575015910344117800.html

Hopefully he 1) Actually follows through and 2) Makes a big deal out of this and the Republicans who vote against it.

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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2010, 11:51:08 PM »

oh, that will really help the economy....example, let's see, Citigroup itself has already let go 100,000 employees, and now Obama wants them to fire another 100,000

it may be popular initially, but we'll see how popular he is when unemployment remains above 9% come Nov 2010

and where is Obama's treasury Secretary...didn't Geithner used to run the FOMC?  the dude has become a total political hack
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 03:00:30 AM »

This is great news. Glass-Steagall never should have ended in the first place.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 08:59:50 AM »

Good. Too big to fail=too big to exist.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2010, 11:11:10 AM »

I'm sure everyone will agree that the idea that the US government, in the current political climate, could actually regulate banks or other large corporations (at least in the sense of making do that which the do not wish), is laughable.  Its like saying the valet will regulate his master's choice of socks.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2010, 12:16:50 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2010, 12:20:02 PM by Torie »

I strongly agree with Obama on this. I would like to never have to see a repeat of the "too big to fail" syndrome. It has become clear that certain activities of banks cause them to incur too much risk causing them to fail when the economy takes a dump, and given the central role banks have in shaping the macro economic environment (including the size of the money supply among other things - it goes up when they lend, and down when they don't), those activities need to be separated from lending and any money which has FDIC insurance.

  I am sure most would agree with me on this, no?
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 12:17:43 PM »

I strongly agree with Obama on this. I would like to never have to see a repeat of the "too big to fail" syndrome.  I am sure most would agree with me on this, no?

Yes, duh.  Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 12:24:42 PM »

The stock market LOVES this today.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 01:25:42 PM »

This, or a hundred other things. OMG, the market's been in a two day slump since Brown was elected. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 01:32:12 PM »

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0110/Tough_week.html

This morning, the White House announces, on the front page of the Times and elsewhere, that it's headed for open conflict with the banks.

A few hours later, the Supreme Court rules that the banks can spend their money for the first time in decades campaigning against him and his candidates.


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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2010, 01:38:15 PM »

I strongly support this.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2010, 03:38:40 PM »

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0110/Tough_week.html

This morning, the White House announces, on the front page of the Times and elsewhere, that it's headed for open conflict with the banks.

A few hours later, the Supreme Court rules that the banks can spend their money for the first time in decades campaigning against him and his candidates.




It's a pretty screwed up country we live in that in November banks will be running ads against Democrats who voted to regulate them, using the money the banks were bailed out with, convincing people that are angry about bailouts and corporate control of government to vote against the "communist" Democrats. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2010, 04:18:10 PM »

This, or a hundred other things. OMG, the market's been in a two day slump since Brown was elected. Roll Eyes

dude, get real, bank's stocks were down 4-6% today and the overall market was down 2%...you can write off yesterday's activity to normal market behavior, but today was mostly about Obama.
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2010, 04:33:38 PM »

Looks like it is going to take Barney Frank to temper this.

It's amazing how Obama would risk killing the recovery just for a short term populous boost. 
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2010, 05:18:45 PM »

This is great news. Glass-Steagall never should have ended in the first place.
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2010, 05:30:09 PM »

This is great news. Glass-Steagall never should have ended in the first place.

yeah, I'm sure the 50% of Americans who own stocks are just loving it.

Interestingly, Barney Frank has come out against this today and says it would lead to a "Fire Sale".

Instead of regulating the derivatives, they're going to regulate companies.  Unbelievably STUPID!....at least Barney Frank understands.
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2010, 05:31:28 PM »

How stupid.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2010, 06:09:41 PM »

I can't believe we have to wait for Barney Frank to kill this in committee.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2010, 06:27:34 PM »

The real question here is since Glass-Steagall is only going to return in "spirit", how will it be written so that the banks can get around it?

Oh wait, Barney Frank will kill it in committee.  Never mind.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2010, 06:30:00 PM »

Never going to pass.
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2010, 06:40:50 PM »

You can't regulate the banks without changing the rules of the financial system first. They'll just get around the regulations.
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2010, 06:52:36 PM »

Good. Too big to fail=too big to exist.
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2010, 07:48:44 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2010, 09:06:52 PM by Mario Cuomo »

Good news, but not good enough. Why doesn't he just reinstate the whole act? This act has protected the U.S. from severe financial crises for 66 years before it was repealed. Or is there still too much banking influence on Capitol Hill?
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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2010, 07:59:05 PM »

The President is absolutely correct.  And yes, Glass-Steagall never should have been done away with.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2010, 01:05:22 AM »

I strongly agree with Obama on this. I would like to never have to see a repeat of the "too big to fail" syndrome. It has become clear that certain activities of banks cause them to incur too much risk causing them to fail when the economy takes a dump, and given the central role banks have in shaping the macro economic environment (including the size of the money supply among other things - it goes up when they lend, and down when they don't), those activities need to be separated from lending and any money which has FDIC insurance.

  I am sure most would agree with me on this, no?

Not me.  I just don't get what a return to Glass-Steagall has to do with the last financial crisis.  The entities that were centrally involved - Lehman, Bear Stearns, AIG, etc. - weren't consumer banks.  They were investment banks that took on too much risk.  The government didn't have to step up at all when the entities failed - and didn't do so for Bear Stearns anyway.

If anything, the repeal of Glass Steagall HELPED because Bank of America wouldn't have been able to absorb Merill Lynch under the old rules.

What Obama is proposing is like treating a virus with penicillin - it sounds like a good idea, but won't work.  He's fighting the wrong battle.
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