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« Reply #475 on: January 20, 2010, 12:41:35 AM »

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2010/01/20/browns_victory_gives_republicans_surge_of_renewed_confidence/?page=2
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« Reply #476 on: January 20, 2010, 12:48:02 AM »

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2010/01/this_is_how_a_good_victory_speech_reads.php
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« Reply #477 on: January 20, 2010, 12:53:43 AM »

I admit it - I was wrong last week when I said he didn't have a chance.

I said Coakley over the weekend.

Okay, Fox reported lower Black turnout.  Can anyone confirm that?
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« Reply #478 on: January 20, 2010, 01:19:39 AM »

     Well I must admit that I didn't expect Brown to actually pull it out.
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« Reply #479 on: January 20, 2010, 01:21:22 AM »

I'm watching the FOX rerun of earlier - I just saw (for the 2nd time) Ayla Brown (Scott's daughter) pull a marker out of her bra to sign a picture.
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« Reply #480 on: January 20, 2010, 01:25:39 AM »

I'm watching the FOX rerun of earlier - I just saw (for the 2nd time) Ayla Brown (Scott's daughter) pull a marker out of her bra to sign a picture.

Nip slip, by any chance?
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« Reply #481 on: January 20, 2010, 01:27:20 AM »

I'm watching the FOX rerun of earlier - I just saw (for the 2nd time) Ayla Brown (Scott's daughter) pull a marker out of her bra to sign a picture.

Nip slip, by any chance?

No, but apparently somebody's got a copy on YouTube already.  It's weird - I happened to see it on FOX twice - the first time live and the second time just now.

http://www.twitter4groups.com//rta/a/view?f=aHR0cDovL2RpZ2cuY29tL3Blb3BsZS9BeWxhX0Jyb3duX01hc3NfU2VuYXRvcl9kYXVnaHRlcl9kaWdnaW5nX2luX2hlcl9ib29icw==
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« Reply #482 on: January 20, 2010, 01:28:52 AM »

I'm watching the FOX rerun of earlier - I just saw (for the 2nd time) Ayla Brown (Scott's daughter) pull a marker out of her bra to sign a picture.

i noticed that also on the rerun, she's definitely a wildcard, flies by the seat of her dress
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« Reply #483 on: January 20, 2010, 01:32:14 AM »


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« Reply #484 on: January 20, 2010, 01:34:32 AM »

I'm watching the FOX rerun of earlier - I just saw (for the 2nd time) Ayla Brown (Scott's daughter) pull a marker out of her bra to sign a picture.

I don't think that infra dig myself. Some of you youngs are just so straight laced.  Where did the late 60's go?  Long time passing. Sad
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« Reply #485 on: January 20, 2010, 02:00:29 AM »

I'm watching the FOX rerun of earlier - I just saw (for the 2nd time) Ayla Brown (Scott's daughter) pull a marker out of her bra to sign a picture.

I don't think that infra dig myself. Some of you youngs are just so straight laced.  Where did the late 60's go?  Long time passing. Sad

Agreed.  Also agree with jmfcst on the hotness of the daughter in black (and at least it's less strange coming from me  Tongue)
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« Reply #486 on: January 20, 2010, 02:07:10 AM »

I'm watching the FOX rerun of earlier - I just saw (for the 2nd time) Ayla Brown (Scott's daughter) pull a marker out of her bra to sign a picture.

I don't think that infra dig myself. Some of you youngs are just so straight laced.  Where did the late 60's go?  Long time passing. Sad

Agreed.  Also agree with jmfcst on the hotness of the daughter in black (and at least it's less strange coming from me  Tongue)

Oh, I didn't mind - I just found it odd to do at a campaign victory speech.
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« Reply #487 on: January 20, 2010, 02:07:35 AM »

Well congratulations Democrats, you're the only party in the world that can hold every branch of government and a supermajority in the upper house....and still  up your agenda.

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« Reply #488 on: January 20, 2010, 02:11:16 AM »

Middlesex County ended up just like Bergen Co in NJ a swing County we thought the GOP candidate would need to win, who lead in for most of the night but had slip away at the end and end up not being so important to the Republican after all.

I am surprised that Worcester went so Republican. I was expected 55-45 in that county not 60-40. among other surprises, who would have thought that the city whose machine kept Jim Ogonoski out of the House would end up going to Brown by 5 points? 
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« Reply #489 on: January 20, 2010, 02:37:03 AM »

Request - Can I get a county/town template for Massachusetts?  I'd like to at least make a county map tonight..  Thanks!
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« Reply #490 on: January 20, 2010, 03:02:06 AM »

Alright -looks like I'm not going to get any help tonight and going to bed, so if someone wants to input the preliminary figures.

I'm kind of old-school and calculate by hand everything.  Coakley's number is off by about 100 votes somewhere in my maths, but it won't matter to the map:

County tonight/Town tomorrow

CountyBrownBrown%CoakleyCoakley%Total Votes
Barnstable59,99057.41%43,60941.73%104,500
Berkshire13,29430.50%29,84768.48%43,584
Bristol93,47456.01%71,49342.84%166,897
Dukes2,64134.10%4,91563.45%7,746
Essex143,89756.53%108,35442.57%254,556
Franklin9,87635.73%17,31862.65%27,644
Hampden71,64154.52%57,81344.00%131,404
Hampshire 21,10737.30%34,77061.45%56,585
Middlesex 259,76847.43%283,25951.72%547,654
Nantucket2,03248.05%2,13950.58%4,229
Norfolk152,78455.56%120,04143.65%274,979
Plymouth119,97962.77%69,56536.39%191,143
Suffolk57,35032.78%115,83466.22%174,931
Worcester160,27460.90%99,80337.92%    263,164
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« Reply #491 on: January 20, 2010, 04:09:41 AM »
« Edited: January 20, 2010, 04:11:42 AM by Guderian »

dang, his daughters are good looking

I totally just sent some Facebook friend requests.

On the serious note, congratulations to Scott Brown on a perfectly executed political campaign. Two weeks ago when Rasmussen had him 50-41 down, that poll seemed too generous to him and yet he's now a US Senator-elect. At least once the old adage about favorite being vulnerable if he/she can't clear 50% in polls proved to be true.

Of course, Brown was helped by Coakley going auto-pilot too early and by general voter dissatisfaction with Washington Democrats, but still he deserves a huge hat tip. Whoever managed his campaign should be getting calls from Republican 2012 contenders ASAP.
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« Reply #492 on: January 20, 2010, 04:23:02 AM »




ain't no flies on those girls
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« Reply #493 on: January 20, 2010, 06:21:26 AM »


lmao.
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« Reply #494 on: January 20, 2010, 07:05:28 AM »
« Edited: January 20, 2010, 07:15:18 AM by Send in the Clowns »


Yes.

Um... working class Bay Staters hate a black?

No. But I think you need to understand the extent to which much of the traditional 'ethnic' working class is (for now) no longer loyal to either party; they've been totally excluded from the political process for decades and have, it appears, finally noticed (we can probably date this from 2006, actually. Why, it may even be possible that the some of pattern of support for Clinton in the primaries reflected disillusion with politics-as-usual as much as the pattern of support for Obama).
This isn't unprecendented of course; the same was true of the 1970s and early 1980s. The voters that sunk Coakley last night are the same sort (in some cases almost certainly the same ones) that did for Carter in 1980 and then swung violently against congressional Republicans in 1982. Which of course doesn't mean that mean we can say that Obama will meet Carter's fate or anything like that, but it does mean that the Democratic Party has to wake up unless it wants to suffer huge losses later in the year.

I mean, there's a limit to the amount that you can extract from by-elections (or special elections or whatever), but sometimes certain patterns are too striking to be ignored.
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« Reply #495 on: January 20, 2010, 07:07:16 AM »

Screw you, Massachusetts.
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« Reply #496 on: January 20, 2010, 07:15:14 AM »


Yay, Massachusetts.
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« Reply #497 on: January 20, 2010, 07:23:16 AM »


Enjoy rare moment, my friend, because you will not get it ever again
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« Reply #498 on: January 20, 2010, 08:44:16 AM »

Folks - take a second to study those Clinton-Obama 2008 numbers and this election and tell me what you see....  I know Al already sees it.

Democrats had better pay attention.  

Clintonistas bailed in large numbers?  That is hardly shocking.

Working-class revolt centered against those in power.

It will take some work to see the differential swings to see just who "revolted" the most, and by how much. What we do know, is that academic areas, and rich liberal areas, hardly revolted at all vis a vis Obama.  Some, but not much, relatively speaking, as to the rich liberal areas.

The New York Times has a swing map by town (from 2008 presidential) this morning:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/01/19/us/politics/massachusetts-election-map.html?hp

I don't want to get into another class-definition argument, but what the map suggests to me is that much as we like to pay attention to ye olde mill towns Wink, the Dems have at least as much of a problem is in sort of lower-middle areas - the "exurbs" and the like, where people have never been too loyal to either party.
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« Reply #499 on: January 20, 2010, 08:45:10 AM »

I admit it - I was wrong last week when I said he didn't have a chance.

I said Coakley over the weekend.

Okay, Fox reported lower Black turnout.  Can anyone confirm that?

I already did.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=109228.msg2323757#msg2323757
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