What has happened to the GOP in New York state

[hotpprs]

I can't believe Rick Lazio is the best GOP choice we have for NY Governor. Maybe it is just such a horrible job that Lazio is the only one willing to run for it.
I don't know much about Lazio or his policies, but from the disaster of 10 years ago against Hillary Clinton, and the fact that he spent the last several years as a VP for a big NY bank, I don't even have to know his policies. Even if the winds are changing in politics due to the Democratics destroying this country, especially the middle class, I don't think Lazio has any chance for a comeback for any major seat in this state. What will fly in Long Island, necessarily doesn't fly upstate or in NYC. It's kind of like it's own little world.
We need a fresh face, and there must be someone in this state who can rebuild this party.
Maybe a non-politician who has name recognition in the state. But I don't think it can come from any industry that people feel have had anything to do with lowering their standard of living, or with the mortgage mess or having seen their 401k's shrink.
I just don't think it's in the cards for the NY Governor seat this year. The Senate seat is a different story, but it looks like the NY state GOP party is screwing that up also. There should be a clear front runner they are standing behind and pumping up, but I don't even know who is thinking of running. All I hear about is who is not running.
Wake up people.

[cinyc]

Cuomo will ultimately run for governor, making his Republican opponent a sacrificial lamb, anyway.  Lazio can do that.

Who the Republicans are running for the Senate seat is a mystery.  The Republican bench in New York is pretty thin.  There are only 2 Republican congressmen left - one is a freshman, the other doesn't want the job.  Most State Senators are too old and unknown.  Most of the large county execs were Democrats until this cycle.  The bench got replenished a bit in the last cycle - but it's not soon enough for the next election.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The Conservative Party, Gun Control mania in the suburbs, population decline in the Southern Tier, Pataki's unpopularity in his third term. The rapid decent to marginalism upstate from being strongly GOP. The fall of Alphonse D'Amato wiped out the influence of someone that could control and actually get the Conservative Party to back a moderate(Pataki). The failure to create a new generation of Republican candidates resulting in the State Senate becoming filled with elderly Republicans who should have been put out to pasteur long ago but fear of losing the seats or lack of a bench to replace them has kept them from leaving. How is that for starters?

[redcommander]

They better find someone to run against Gillibrand at least. It better not be Bruce Blakeman either, if that's the best the NY GOP can do, than the races in November may actually be a bright spot for Democrats. There has got to be some good candidates that will eventually announce a challenge to Gillibrand, Cuomo, or Patterson.

[Bo]

It collapsed and became greatly weakened since many New Yorkers realized that the current GOP is too conservative for them.

[live free or die]

NY is in a pretty bad position, I must say. It is funny that Democrats can't get elected NYC mayor though.

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

NY is in a pretty bad position, I must say. It is funny that Democrats can't get elected NYC mayor though.

They will after Bloomberg most likely.

[Eraserhead]

It's a hallowed out, mostly dead party. I was kind of hoping that the same would happen to the GOP nationally but we didn't get that lucky, apparently.

[Smash255]

To those who thought that some of the wins the GOP had last year in some local races may help them in the future statewide.  Well this kind of crap won't help....

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[Lunar]

read the comments section on this article:
http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2010/01/28/whats-the-matter-with-the-new-york-state-gop/

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Bush killed the party. He got his 9/11 boost in 2004, but then when the 9/11 magic stopped working for Republicans in New York, it really stopped working. This state voted for D'Amato in 1992, so things have changed quite a bit.

[redcommander]

I will say that Republicans have at least found a good candidate for State Comptroller, Henry Wilson http://www.wilsonfornewyork.com, but they need to work harder to find others for the other state and federal offices.

[sg0508]

Like the rest of the country, the party went too far right and the GOP lost suburbia.  Suburban voters used to carry states like NJ, IL, PA, NH, and even OR/WA and CA.

Once the suburban vote was lost, it was all over for the GOP in NY.

The GOP used to own Long Island, but not anymore.  The typical democratic win was around 52-47% every year, but since 1992, forget about it.

[redcommander]

Like the rest of the country, the party went too far right and the GOP lost suburbia.  Suburban voters used to carry states like NJ, IL, PA, NH, and even OR/WA and CA.

Once the suburban vote was lost, it was all over for the GOP in NY.

The GOP used to own Long Island, but not anymore.  The typical democratic win was around 52-47% every year, but since 1992, forget about it.

You're right, Long Island used to be a Republican bastion. Reagan carried New York twice, and Bush Sr. made the state close, because counties like Westchester, Nassau, Richmond, and Suffolk voted Republican with such large margins. Since the Bush Jr. years, the Republicans have lost tremendous ground in the state and in those areas in particular, but if last November was an indicator, I do think the tide will continue to turn in the Republicans' favor this fall. They have a shot a picking up Congressional seats, and retaking the state senate. They just need to recruit a solid statewide ticket for all those political races up in November.

[Smash255]

Like the rest of the country, the party went too far right and the GOP lost suburbia.  Suburban voters used to carry states like NJ, IL, PA, NH, and even OR/WA and CA.

Once the suburban vote was lost, it was all over for the GOP in NY.

The GOP used to own Long Island, but not anymore.  The typical democratic win was around 52-47% every year, but since 1992, forget about it.

You're right, Long Island used to be a Republican bastion. Reagan carried New York twice, and Bush Sr. made the state close, because counties like Westchester, Nassau, Richmond, and Suffolk voted Republican with such large margins. Since the Bush Jr. years, the Republicans have lost tremendous ground in the state and in those areas in particular, but if last November was an indicator, I do think the tide will continue to turn in the Republicans' favor this fall. They have a shot a picking up Congressional seats, and retaking the state senate. They just need to recruit a solid statewide ticket for all those political races up in November.

LOL, A low turnout off year election doesn't mean things will automatically be the same the following year.  Though it looks like they will be rescinded the anger at the GOP pay raise vote  is not a good way to start off your hold in the majority.  Not to mention you think the  GOP will pick up NY-04 of all seats, that right there should disqualify you from making any comments on the GOP's chances in NY.

[xavier110]

Yeah, the Republicans haven't handled taking over Nassau County very well.

And if there's any LI congressperson who's going to be in a close race, it's Bishop.

Also, I don't think there's really any way the Dems lose the governorship, but there's a slight chance Gillibrand's seat could go either way. I'm not counting out Harold Ford. Most of these polls are underestimating his AA support. I'd say he'd probably be a stronger general election candidate, even though he also has more baggage.

[redcommander]

Like the rest of the country, the party went too far right and the GOP lost suburbia.  Suburban voters used to carry states like NJ, IL, PA, NH, and even OR/WA and CA.

Once the suburban vote was lost, it was all over for the GOP in NY.

The GOP used to own Long Island, but not anymore.  The typical democratic win was around 52-47% every year, but since 1992, forget about it.

You're right, Long Island used to be a Republican bastion. Reagan carried New York twice, and Bush Sr. made the state close, because counties like Westchester, Nassau, Richmond, and Suffolk voted Republican with such large margins. Since the Bush Jr. years, the Republicans have lost tremendous ground in the state and in those areas in particular, but if last November was an indicator, I do think the tide will continue to turn in the Republicans' favor this fall. They have a shot a picking up Congressional seats, and retaking the state senate. They just need to recruit a solid statewide ticket for all those political races up in November.

LOL, A low turnout off year election doesn't mean things will automatically be the same the following year.  Though it looks like they will be rescinded the anger at the GOP pay raise vote  is not a good way to start off your hold in the majority.  Not to mention you think the  GOP will pick up NY-04 of all seats, that right there should disqualify you from making any comments on the GOP's chances in NY.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York's_4th_congressional_district
It is possible for her to lose her seat so stop making it seem as though it is a crazy idea. It's not as if I am saying Ackerman or Maloney's seat can be picked up.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Long Island wasn't all that much of a Republican bastion at congressional level, fwiw.

[sg0508]

Reagan only won here in 1980 because of Anderson.  Ford lost here because Carter for whatever reason did well on Long Island.  The GOP would always be in the upper 50s here to even 60% and Carter lost the island by just a few points.

The RINOs (like myself) that we need to win here are just about gone.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Long Island wasn't all that much of a Republican bastion at congressional level, fwiw.

This is true. Prior to WW2, most of its Congressmen were Dems. GOP dominance was post WW2 occurance. and considering that NY-01, NY-02, and NY-03 changed hands frequenctly. NY-04 was the only consistently Republican district from 1952-1996.

[Smash255]

Like the rest of the country, the party went too far right and the GOP lost suburbia.  Suburban voters used to carry states like NJ, IL, PA, NH, and even OR/WA and CA.

Once the suburban vote was lost, it was all over for the GOP in NY.

The GOP used to own Long Island, but not anymore.  The typical democratic win was around 52-47% every year, but since 1992, forget about it.

You're right, Long Island used to be a Republican bastion. Reagan carried New York twice, and Bush Sr. made the state close, because counties like Westchester, Nassau, Richmond, and Suffolk voted Republican with such large margins. Since the Bush Jr. years, the Republicans have lost tremendous ground in the state and in those areas in particular, but if last November was an indicator, I do think the tide will continue to turn in the Republicans' favor this fall. They have a shot a picking up Congressional seats, and retaking the state senate. They just need to recruit a solid statewide ticket for all those political races up in November.

LOL, A low turnout off year election doesn't mean things will automatically be the same the following year.  Though it looks like they will be rescinded the anger at the GOP pay raise vote  is not a good way to start off your hold in the majority.  Not to mention you think the  GOP will pick up NY-04 of all seats, that right there should disqualify you from making any comments on the GOP's chances in NY.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York's_4th_congressional_district
It is possible for her to lose her seat so stop making it seem as though it is a crazy idea. It's not as if I am saying Ackerman or Maloney's seat can be picked up.

I'm making it seem like a crazy idea BECAUSE IT IS A CRAZY IDEA.  Is the district as Democratic as Ackerman or Maloney's seats?  No.  Is it a strongly Democratic district?  Yes.  Districts that Obama won by 17 points aren't going to suddenly become competitive because you say so.   Hell, only three districts that are represented by a Republican went stronger for Obama than NY-04 did, and they are all likely gone this year (IL-10,DE-AL & LA-02).  This isn't a marginal or slightly Dem district.  Its pretty solid Dem.   On top of that McCarthy is a well entrenched, popular incumbent in her 7th term and the GOP has nothing in the district as far as a bench.  Scatturo isn't going to do anything, come on.  The GOP has what in this district?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Long Island wasn't all that much of a Republican bastion at congressional level, fwiw.

This is true. Prior to WW2, most of its Congressmen were Dems. GOP dominance was post WW2 occurance. and considering that NY-01, NY-02, and NY-03 changed hands frequenctly. NY-04 was the only consistently Republican district from 1952-1996.

Even in other elections the Mighty Republican Stronghold thing doesn't fit that well... HHH managed to poll over 40% in Nassau in 1968, while Carter (not... exactly... the ideal Democrat for the area) came very close to winning it.

[Progressive]

Like the rest of the country, the party went too far right and the GOP lost suburbia.  Suburban voters used to carry states like NJ, IL, PA, NH, and even OR/WA and CA.

Once the suburban vote was lost, it was all over for the GOP in NY.

The GOP used to own Long Island, but not anymore.  The typical democratic win was around 52-47% every year, but since 1992, forget about it.

You're right, Long Island used to be a Republican bastion. Reagan carried New York twice, and Bush Sr. made the state close, because counties like Westchester, Nassau, Richmond, and Suffolk voted Republican with such large margins. Since the Bush Jr. years, the Republicans have lost tremendous ground in the state and in those areas in particular, but if last November was an indicator, I do think the tide will continue to turn in the Republicans' favor this fall. They have a shot a picking up Congressional seats, and retaking the state senate. They just need to recruit a solid statewide ticket for all those political races up in November.

LOL, A low turnout off year election doesn't mean things will automatically be the same the following year.  Though it looks like they will be rescinded the anger at the GOP pay raise vote  is not a good way to start off your hold in the majority.  Not to mention you think the  GOP will pick up NY-04 of all seats, that right there should disqualify you from making any comments on the GOP's chances in NY.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York's_4th_congressional_district
It is possible for her to lose her seat so stop making it seem as though it is a crazy idea. It's not as if I am saying Ackerman or Maloney's seat can be picked up.

LOLOLOLOL I live in NY-04. You're not beating Carolyn McCarthy. Like you're actually not going to do be able to defeat her. She's popular among constituents, she has name recognition really throughout the state, and she won't be defeated by a lunatic Republican.

[patrick1]

I live in NY-04 also.  I am no fan of McCarthy but she will win handily.  Demographic shifts have also been favorable to the Dems. 

[Conservative frontier]

Wanna know what happened? ..It died.