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« on: December 23, 2009, 07:09:33 PM »
Yes, you read right. Any VP's you want.

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2009, 07:36:48 PM »
Bush Sr. wins since people are going to vote based on past experiences with the two men.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2009, 07:39:15 PM »
Quote from: TheDarkMagician on December 23, 2009, 07:36:48 PM
Bush Sr. wins since people are going to vote based on past experiences with the two men.



Not sure how it'd play out, but I honestly think at this point, Georgia would vote for Bush.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2009, 07:43:50 PM »
Quote from: Xuande on December 23, 2009, 07:39:15 PM
Quote from: TheDarkMagician on December 23, 2009, 07:36:48 PM
Bush Sr. wins since people are going to vote based on past experiences with the two men.



Not sure how it'd play out, but I honestly think at this point, Georgia would vote for Bush.

I'm not so sure about that. Georgia voted for Carter in 1980 when he lost in a landslide to Ronald Reagan. I still think Georgia would vote for Carter since many people there still ahve fond memories of him (not necessarily of his Presidency, but especially of his Governorship). Does the rest of my map seem correct in your opinion, though?
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2009, 08:07:49 PM »
Flip California and Georgia, and that's about right.
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2009, 02:56:49 AM »
Carter/Carter
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2009, 03:01:33 AM »
Bush/Bush.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2009, 03:12:40 PM »
Bush/Bush
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2009, 03:16:30 PM »
Bush/Bush
It would be a landslide.
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2009, 03:17:58 PM »
Bush/Bush.
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2009, 03:24:19 PM »

Indeed. Carter would lose even worse than Dukakis.
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2009, 03:25:17 PM »
Yeah, it wouldn't even be close. Carter has so many faults to use against him.
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2009, 03:52:40 PM »
Quote from: SoIA NiK on December 24, 2009, 03:25:17 PM
Yeah, it wouldn't even be close. Carter has so many faults to use against him.

And Bush doesn't?
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2009, 08:31:50 PM »
Carter/Bush
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2009, 02:48:46 PM »
Quote from: Libertas on December 24, 2009, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: SoIA NiK on December 24, 2009, 03:25:17 PM
Yeah, it wouldn't even be close. Carter has so many faults to use against him.

And Bush doesn't?

Not as many as Carter.
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2009, 10:56:34 PM »
Quote from: SoIA NiK on December 26, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: Libertas on December 24, 2009, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: SoIA NiK on December 24, 2009, 03:25:17 PM
Yeah, it wouldn't even be close. Carter has so many faults to use against him.

And Bush doesn't?

Not as many as Carter.

Carter's presidency would not even be remembered by many 2012 voters. George Bush's name alone would be enough to sink him.
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2009, 10:59:33 PM »
« Edited: December 26, 2009, 11:08:06 PM by Joe Republic »
Yay, a choice of two 88-year-old men!  I'm giddy with anticipation!

I suggest Daniel Inouye and Ted Stevens for running mates.
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2009, 01:28:29 PM »
Quote from: GPORTER on December 27, 2009, 01:23:01 PM
Bush does well, and it is close throughout the entire campaign. But, in the end Carter narrowly wins.

Bush wins three of the four electoral votes from Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, all of the south except Georgia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Missouri. The north is pretty much Carter because Bush wins only Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, the dakotas, and Nebraska. Bush wins Kansas and Oklahoma. He wins all of the west except for the west coast, New Mexico, and Hawaii.

Bush performs well but looses the electoral vote 290-248 and narrowly looses the popular vote.


I seriously doubt it will be that close. I think Bush Sr. will win in a Clinton-92-96-type of landslide. I think that he can easily distringuish himself from his more stupid son, and a large amount of people I know (both Democrats, Republicans, and Independents) either think Carter is as bad as Bush Jr. or is even worse. I'm sure Bush Sr. will remind everyone about Carter's severely weak responses to the hyperinflation and the hostage crisis, and that should be enough for Bush Sr. to win easily if he picks a smart, competent running mate and if he clearly separates himself from his son throughout the campaign.
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2009, 01:49:43 PM »
« Edited: December 27, 2009, 01:51:19 PM by Libertas »


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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2009, 02:04:24 PM »


Hack map.
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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2009, 02:12:11 PM »

Your map was a hack map, I agree. That's why I posted my map, which is not a hack map.
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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2009, 02:18:51 PM »
Actually maybe flip Tennessee to Carter as well. Bush doesn't stand a chance.




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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2009, 02:26:23 PM »
Quote from: Libertas on December 27, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Actually maybe flip Tennessee to Carter as well. Bush doesn't stand a chance.





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I was talking about your map being a hack map, not mine. There's no way Carter would min in that kind of lanslide against Bush Sr. I think you just gave Carter a massive landslide because you miiskenly think he is the greatest President ever.
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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2009, 02:34:52 PM »
« Edited: December 27, 2009, 02:41:51 PM by Libertas »
Quote from: HawkishDemocrat on December 27, 2009, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Libertas on December 27, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Actually maybe flip Tennessee to Carter as well. Bush doesn't stand a chance.





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I was talking about your map being a hack map, not mine. There's no way Carter would min in that kind of lanslide against Bush Sr. I think you just gave Carter a massive landslide because you miiskenly think he is the greatest President ever.

LOL, when did I ever say Carter is "the greatest President ever"?

 The fact of the matter is, no region in the country has any use for George Bush these days. The Republicans don't like his kind of 'moderates' anymore, and independents don't like George Bush. Carter has an automatic safe Democratic base which includes many of the states Bush was competitive in twenty years ago, and he is also just the sort of Democrat to win at least the Clinton South, combined with overall Dem-trending VA and NC.
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2009, 09:56:50 PM »
Bush/Bush. The media portrays Carter pretty badly already.
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