Office of Mideast Assemblyman Ben

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Hey all!  I've been in office for 5 days now, and I've finally gotten around to opening my new office building.  If anyone has any questions, comments, concerns, pieces of legislation they'd like to suggest, please post them here.

Thanks

[Psychic Octopus]

Uh oh! I found this graffitied on the side!

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Yes, ah, er, graffitied

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Press Release:
Happy New Year Everyone!  As we enter 2010, may we continue to prosper, economically, spiritually, and in every other way!

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Just reminding everyone, my office is open!  Feel free to come on in!

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Just reminding everyone, my office is open!  Feel free to come on in!

I come on, can I have my beer?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I come on, can I have my beer?

There's a mini-fridge in my office; it's all Samuel Adams, though.  I also have wine grown at the Ingleside Vineyards by a private Virginia resident.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I have just introduced the The Mideast Anti-Troll Act into the Assembly, and I hope to see debate begin very soon.  Fell free to comment on it, in this thread, the Assembly thread, or PM me.

Thanks

[President Mitt]

I'm not sure I can support this legislation Ben. It has good intentions, but I think that it might have drastic consequences. For example, Einzige cannot really be held responsible for trolling can he? And if this bill was passed (without that provision excluding the four on there), he would be banned from serving office and voting.

There will indefinitely be circumstances where people on the list don't really deserve to be on it, and I think this bill would infringe upon their rights.

Maybe establish a "Mideast TrollList Review Board" thing (appointed by the Gov.)  that could review the Mideasterners on the TrollList, and decide whether they can be eligible for office/voting?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Giovanni, I think Einzgie is immune because of ex post facto provisions.

I'd also support your suggestion for a review panel, is it helps the bill gain support.

[Badger]

Giovanni, I think Einzgie is immune because of ex post facto provisions.

I'd also support your suggestion for a review panel, is it helps the bill gain support.

Just curious--what need is there for a regional review panel when the mods of all people have banned the person?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Giovanni, I think Einzgie is immune because of ex post facto provisions.

I'd also support your suggestion for a review panel, is it helps the bill gain support.

Just curious--what need is there for a regional review panel when the mods of all people have banned the person?

They can still vote, and run for office; my legislation prevents that.

[President Mitt]

Giovanni, I think Einzgie is immune because of ex post facto provisions.

I'd also support your suggestion for a review panel, is it helps the bill gain support.

Just curious--what need is there for a regional review panel when the mods of all people have banned the person?

They can still vote, and run for office; my legislation prevents that.

 Why would you want to do that? If a person is legitimately a "troll", I highly  doubt he/she could get into an office anyway. And I don't really see being on a list that a handful of people (NO offense to Mods!) should have the ability to restrict their rights, especially since that people that don't really deserve to be on the list have no real way to appeal the decision.

[Antonio the Sixth]

If a person is legitimately a "troll", I highly  doubt he/she could get into an office anyway.

If you were in the NE, you'd realize how much you are wrong.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

If a person is legitimately a "troll", I highly  doubt he/she could get into an office anyway.

If you were in the NE, you'd realize how much you are wrong.

Exactly my point.  Just because this is not the situation now, doesn't mean it cannot become the situation down the road, and we should act now to prevent this.

[Sewer]

If a person is legitimately a "troll", I highly  doubt he/she could get into an office anyway.

If you were in the NE, you'd realize how much you are wrong.

what did i do to you?

[Antonio the Sixth]

If a person is legitimately a "troll", I highly  doubt he/she could get into an office anyway.

If you were in the NE, you'd realize how much you are wrong.

what did i do to you?

I made it clear that IMO you have nothing to do in the trollist. So you should know who are the people I'm refering to.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

If a person is legitimately a "troll", I highly  doubt he/she could get into an office anyway.

If you were in the NE, you'd realize how much you are wrong.

what did i do to you?

I made it clear that IMO you have nothing to do in the trollist. So you should know who are the people I'm refering to.

Libertas - that's who I thought you meant.

[Antonio the Sixth]

If a person is legitimately a "troll", I highly  doubt he/she could get into an office anyway.

If you were in the NE, you'd realize how much you are wrong.

what did i do to you?

I made it clear that IMO you have nothing to do in the trollist. So you should know who are the people I'm refering to.

Libertas - that's who I thought you meant.

Him and Hamilton, indeed.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Him and Hamilton, indeed.

Exactly.  It is possible for a troll to get elected to office, and I think we're better off with barring them.  Remember, a troll cannot take part in actual debate; they would just be there to vote.  It is better, then, to just prevent such a situation from arising.

[President Mitt]

But if a supposed "troll" can make a good Assemblyman, who are we to stop him?

[Badger]

Him and Hamilton, indeed.

Exactly.  It is possible for a troll to get elected to office, and I think we're better off with barring them.  Remember, a troll cannot take part in actual debate; they would just be there to vote.  It is better, then, to just prevent such a situation from arising.

I have to admit, that exact example is the biggest reason I can see to consider supporting this bill.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

But if a supposed "troll" can make a good Assemblyman, who are we to stop him?

Because there's no guarantee they could be a good Assemblyman, and they won't be a good Assemblyman, because all they can do is vote.  It basically creates a zombie Assemblyman, and we don't want that, it isn't good for the Region.

[President Mitt]

But if a supposed "troll" can make a good Assemblyman, who are we to stop him?

Because there's no guarantee they could be a good Assemblyman, and they won't be a good Assemblyman, because all they can do is vote.  It basically creates a zombie Assemblyman, and we don't want that, it isn't good for the Region.

But we shouldn't restrict voting rights to anybody merely because their name is on a list of supposed "trolls" that a select group of people are in charge of creating. Mideasterners who probably aren't guilty of anything might be stripped of all rights merely because one particular person thought he was a troll. If a "troll" is legitimately a loon, I doubt the public would vote him into office.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

But if a supposed "troll" can make a good Assemblyman, who are we to stop him?

Because there's no guarantee they could be a good Assemblyman, and they won't be a good Assemblyman, because all they can do is vote.  It basically creates a zombie Assemblyman, and we don't want that, it isn't good for the Region.

But we shouldn't restrict voting rights to anybody merely because their name is on a list of supposed "trolls" that a select group of people are in charge of creating. Mideasterners who probably aren't guilty of anything might be stripped of all rights merely because one particular person thought he was a troll. If a "troll" is legitimately a loon, I doubt the public would vote him into office.

Plenty of loons have been elected to office throughout Atlasia in the past.