Rasmussen poll on Arizona Senate primary

[CARLHAYDEN]

Arizona Senate Primary

Survey of 570 Likely Republican Primary Voters

November 18, 2009

1* Arizona GOP Senate Primary

McCain                            45%

Simcox                              4%

Heyworth                       43%

Some other candidate      1%

Not sure                           7%

2* Favorables for Senate Candidate in Arizona

Candidate
   

         Very favorable  Somewhat favorable  Somewhat unfavorable  Very unfavorable  Not sure

McCain       35%                    39%                               16%                        8%                  2%

Heyworth   37%                   30%                                10%                        6%                16%

Simcox         5%                    22%                               24%                        2%                 46%

[Marokai Backbeat]

I find it frightening if not even McCain is right-wing enough for you people.

[Eraserhead]

Hayworth? The dude who lost his Congressional seat by like five points and yet pretended that he didn't lose for like weeks afterward? Okay.

[CARLHAYDEN]

I find it frightening if not even McCain is right-wing enough for you people.

From Project Vote Smart:

2008  In 2008 American Conservative Union gave Senator McCain a rating of 63 percent.

2008  Senator McCain supported the interests of the Eagle Forum 50 percent in 2008.

2008  Senator McCain supported the interests of the The Club for Growth 54 percent in 2008

2008  In 2008 American Conservative Union gave Senator Kyl a rating of 96 percent.

2008  Senator Kyl supported the interests of the Eagle Forum 87 percent in 2008.

2008  Senator Kyl supported the interests of the The Club for Growth 90 percent in 2008.

2008  In 2008 American Conservative Union gave Representative Franks a rating of 100 percent.

2008  Representative Franks supported the interests of the Eagle Forum 100 percent in 2008.

2008  Representative Franks supported the interests of the The Club for Growth 100 percent in 2008

2008  In 2008 American Conservative Union gave Representative Shadegg a rating of 96 percent.

2008  Representative Shadegg supported the interests of the Eagle Forum 90 percent in 2008.

2008  Representative Shadegg supported the interests of the The Club for Growth 92 percent in 2008.

2008  In 2008 American Conservative Union gave Representative Flake a rating of 100 percent.

2008  Representative Flake supported the interests of the Eagle Forum 88 percent in 2008.

2008  Representative Flake supported the interests of the The Club for Growth 100 percent in 2008.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

This could work out, if Hayworth runs (and wins the primary) and the Democrats run a credible candidate this could be a problem for Republicans.  On the other hand, Rassmussen has been showing some questionable results lately. 

[Ronnie]

McCain has so much money, that I don't think that he has much to worry about.

[Psychic Octopus]

McCain will win, comfortably.

[CARLHAYDEN]

McCain has so much money, that I don't think that he has much to worry about.

Now let me see, what were the expenditures for the candidates for the Democrat party nomination for Governor in Virginia this year?

Did the big spender get the nomination?

[Ronnie]

McCain has so much money, that I don't think that he has much to worry about.

Now let me see, what were the expenditures for the candidates for the Democrat party nomination for Governor in Virginia this year?

Did the big spender get the nomination?

I don't think I should trust your instinct since you said that McCain won't even run.

At least, I think you said that.

[Joe Republic]

CARL also tried to convince us that Napolitano would run and defeat McCain.  This used to be a somewhat widely held view, except that he made it after she was confirmed as Sec of HS.

His hatred of McCain tends to render him blind to reality.

[CARLHAYDEN]

McCain has so much money, that I don't think that he has much to worry about.

Now let me see, what were the expenditures for the candidates for the Democrat party nomination for Governor in Virginia this year?

Did the big spender get the nomination?

I don't think I should trust your instinct since you said that McCain won't even run.

At least, I think you said that.

Ronnie,

First, I posted data to support my contention that McCain is unpopular and can be defeated if he were to seek reelection (you posted none).

Second, I pointed out that mere money is NOT the sine qua non of electability that you asserted, giving you an example from this year's election.

Third, I still suspect that McCain will NOT seek reelection for a number of reasons:

a.) his advisors are telling him that he could be beaten in the primary, and that would be humiliating for him, and
b.) even if he gets reelected, he is widely loathed in the Senate, and has little influence in that body (Sen. Kyl by contrast has considerable influence in the Senate)

Fourth, my opinion is widely shared by experts in Arizona (past posts by a former State Senator in Expresso Pundit.com), to cite one example.

Fifth, McCain backed candidates have been repeatedly beaten in the past couple of years both in the primaries in Arizona in 2008 and in party elections (State Chairman and Maricipa County Chairman, to cite two examples which I posted on thiks forum last year).

Sixth, if you check out my earlier posts on this thread, I cited how out of step McCain is with all the other federal elected Republican officeholders in Arizona.

Seventh, a couple of months ago Rasmussen had another survey in which Arizona Republicans noted that he was out of step with the rank and file party members.

Eighth, last year in the Presidential primary in Arizona McCain failed to get a majority of the vote (unlike Romney who obtained a majority in Massachusetts and Huckabee who had a majority in Arkansas).

Ninth, have you ever spoken with McCain (or even met him)?  I have. 

[Torie]

Heyworth - that rotund disingenuous blowhard lightweight -  is unelectable in the General. Period. Even in a GOP election cycle, if and when that ensues. We shall see if the GOP is intent on committing further seppuku on itself.

[Purple State]

Heyworth - that rotund disingenuous blowhard lightweight -  is unelectable in the General. Period. Even in a GOP election cycle, if and when that ensues. We shall see if the GOP is intent on committing further seppuku on itself.

Democrats can only dream.

I will attempt to avoid getting into another drawn out conversation with CARL about how he is perennially wrong on McCain.

[CARLHAYDEN]

Heyworth - that rotund disingenuous blowhard lightweight -  is unelectable in the General. Period. Even in a GOP election cycle, if and when that ensues. We shall see if the GOP is intent on committing further seppuku on itself.

Torrie,

You have become a hate filled left wing bigot!

Why are you so intolerant and filled with hate?

Why are conservatives not allowed any role in your political world save  being subjects of your diatribes?

[Eraserhead]

Heyworth - that rotund disingenuous blowhard lightweight -  is unelectable in the General. Period. Even in a GOP election cycle, if and when that ensues. We shall see if the GOP is intent on committing further seppuku on itself.

Torrie,

You have become a hate filled left wing bigot!

Why are you so intolerant and filled with hate?

Why are conservatives not allowed any role in your political world save  being subjects of your diatribes?

lulz

[Torie]

Heyworth - that rotund disingenuous blowhard lightweight -  is unelectable in the General. Period. Even in a GOP election cycle, if and when that ensues. We shall see if the GOP is intent on committing further seppuku on itself.

Torrie,

You have become a hate filled left wing bigot!

Why are you so intolerant and filled with hate?

Why are conservatives not allowed any role in your political world save  being subjects of your diatribes?

Putting aside the bridgework about me, I take it you disagree with both my characterization of the man, and his degree of electability.  That is fine, but it might be more productive to attend to the matter of just why you disagree as opposed to your perception of my personal character flaws. Just a thought. Cheers.

[nhmagic]

Hayworth will not win the primary and it will actually be because of Sarah Palin.  The one moderate republican Sarah Palin will throw a ton of support to will be John McCain.  All he has to do is call her up and she will be down here throwing rallies and fundraising for him. 

McCain, I must say, has been acting better, but I think it's just because it's 2010 election season and I have a feeling he's bitter at Obama winning the election.  I'll take that as long as he keeps shooting straight.  I love this quote by McCain from Saturday night:

"Take your AARP card, cut it in half and send it back to AARP because they have betrayed you."

[CARLHAYDEN]

Heyworth - that rotund disingenuous blowhard lightweight -  is unelectable in the General. Period. Even in a GOP election cycle, if and when that ensues. We shall see if the GOP is intent on committing further seppuku on itself.

Torrie,

You have become a hate filled left wing bigot!

Why are you so intolerant and filled with hate?

Why are conservatives not allowed any role in your political world save  being subjects of your diatribes?

Putting aside the bridgework about me, I take it you disagree with both my characterization of the man, and his degree of electability.  That is fine, but it might be more productive to attend to the matter of just why you disagree as opposed to your perception of my personal character flaws. Just a thought. Cheers.

You really don't understand!

You are always snarky and disparaging about conservatives. 

You always insist that conservatives must concede because you don't believe that conservatives have any rights.

Just a thought.

Suppose you referred to every black man as "boy"?

And suppose you dismissed the expressions of every black person out of hand as absurd since blacks shouldn't aspire to equality?

Well, that's exactly how you behave toward conservatives.

Now, when JD was defeated (in 2006) his opponent claimed he was more opposed to illegal immigration than JD in his campaign (yes, its true).

So, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so (example: "rotund disingenuous blowhard lightweight ") and offer rational arguments.

[Joe Republic]

So, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so (example: "rotund disingenuous blowhard lightweight ") and offer rational arguments.

CARL, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so (example: "You have become a hate filled left wing bigot!") and offer rational arguments.

[CARLHAYDEN]

So, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so (example: "rotund disingenuous blowhard lightweight ") and offer rational arguments.

CARL, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so (example: "You have become a hate filled left wing bigot!") and offer rational arguments.

Once again (that's twice in one year) you are correct.

I erred in suggesting he was "left-wing."

[bgwah]

I think it would be pretty neat if McCain went down in a primary.

Unfortunately I have little doubt that McCain will sneakily pander his way to re-election. He'll change his tune on immigration if necessary--whatever it takes to win.

[Franzl]

The one moderate republican Sarah Palin will throw a ton of support to will be John McCain. 

Does that make people like Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins socialists if you consider John McCain to be moderate?

[CARLHAYDEN]

The one moderate republican Sarah Palin will throw a ton of support to will be John McCain. 

Does that make people like Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins socialists if you consider John McCain to be moderate?

I must disagree with azmagic in his characerization of McCain as a "moderate."

McCain is instead a slimebag.

Now, "moderates," typically lean the way their home state/district voters want on major issues, whereas McCain considers the media (ABC, CBS, NBC, the New York Time, the Washington Post, etc.) to be his constituency, and he goes as far to the left to appease them as he figures he can go without getting kicked out by the Arizona voters.

Snowe and Collins by contrast probably pretty accurately reflect the dominant views of the voters of Maine.

[Joe Republic]

McCain is instead a slimebag.

CARL, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so and offer rational arguments.

[CARLHAYDEN]

McCain is instead a slimebag.

CARL, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so and offer rational arguments.

Joe,

McCain is a slimebag!